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Thu 09/05/13


Total Messages Posted: 18



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     1. 04:53 AM - Re: Nose gear leg fairing (jkreidler)
     2. 07:36 AM - Re: Re: Nose gear leg fairing (Carlos Trigo)
     3. 01:42 PM - Has this ever been done... (Mike Whisky)
     4. 02:03 PM - Re: Has this ever been done... (Alan Mekler MD)
     5. 02:05 PM - Re: Has this ever been done... (Robert Brunkenhoefer)
     6. 02:36 PM - Re: Has this ever been done... (woxofswa)
     7. 04:08 PM - Monster retread clearance issue? (Rob Kochman)
     8. 04:27 PM - Re: Has this ever been done... (Jim Berry)
     9. 04:28 PM - Re: Monster retread clearance issue? (PlaneAround,LLC)
    10. 05:10 PM - Re: Has this ever been done... (tomhanaway)
    11. 05:12 PM - Re: Monster retread clearance issue? (Tim Olson)
    12. 05:30 PM - Re: Monster retread clearance issue? (Dave Saylor)
    13. 06:08 PM - Re: Monster retread clearance issue? (Carl Froehlich)
    14. 06:43 PM - Re: Re: Nose gear leg fairing (Chris)
    15. 07:41 PM - Re: Has this ever been done... (bill.peyton)
    16. 08:10 PM - Re: Monster retread clearance issue? (Kelly McMullen)
    17. 09:23 PM - Re: Re: Has this ever been done... (Tim Farrell)
    18. 11:53 PM - Re: Has this ever been done... (Mike Whisky)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:53:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Nose gear leg fairing
    From: "jkreidler" <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
    May I ask what kind of paint you used? - Jason -------- Jason Kreidler 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler N44YH - Flying - #40617 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408051#408051


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    Time: 07:36:47 AM PST US
    From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    Subject: Re: Nose gear leg fairing
    Jason May I suggest that, when you ask a question regarding a previous email, you do include the text of that previous email. Best Carlos -----Mensagem original----- De: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] Em nome de jkreidler Enviada: 5 de setembro de 2013 12:53 Para: rv10-list@matronics.com Assunto: RV10-List: Re: Nose gear leg fairing --> <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com> May I ask what kind of paint you used? - Jason -------- Jason Kreidler 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler N44YH - Flying - #40617 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408051#408051


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    Time: 01:42:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Has this ever been done...
    From: "Mike Whisky" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
    Hi, I filled up my RV-10 on its third flight and had to see that it leaks out through the vent line. The QB tank maker obviously has forgoten to tighten the nut to the an fitting inside the tank. Did anyone ever manage to build a tool that would allow to enter through the tank sensor hole to tighten it? I'd hat to take off the tank and go with Vans advice and cut a hole to get inside the tank, and ruin my paint job. The soft screws most likely won't come out easily as well. Any ideas? Mike -------- RV-10 builder (final system testing) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408086#408086


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    Time: 02:03:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Has this ever been done...
    From: Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net>
    I had the same issue and had to cut open tank to tighten. I heard after someone made a tool but don't remember who it was. Alan N668G 202 hrs Sent from my iPhone On Sep 5, 2013, at 4:41 PM, "Mike Whisky" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > I filled up my RV-10 on its third flight and had to see that it leaks out through the vent line. The QB tank maker obviously has forgoten to tighten the nut to the an fitting inside the tank. > Did anyone ever manage to build a tool that would allow to enter through the tank sensor hole to tighten it? > I'd hat to take off the tank and go with Vans advice and cut a hole to get inside the tank, and ruin my paint job. The soft screws most likely won't come out easily as well. > Any ideas? > > Mike > > -------- > RV-10 builder (final system testing) > #511 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408086#408086 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:05:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Has this ever been done...
    From: Robert Brunkenhoefer <robertbrunk@me.com>
    Do like I did. Have Vans send you a new tank. Mine leaked from the rivets.Not enough proseal. I sent a DTPA notice and got new tanks made and installed by Vans. The new tanks still leak the same. I gave up. I found another way to seal my pimply looking tanks. Regards, Robert On Sep 5, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Mike Whisky <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > I filled up my RV-10 on its third flight and had to see that it leaks out through the vent line. The QB tank maker obviously has forgoten to tighten the nut to the an fitting inside the tank. > Did anyone ever manage to build a tool that would allow to enter through the tank sensor hole to tighten it? > I'd hat to take off the tank and go with Vans advice and cut a hole to get inside the tank, and ruin my paint job. The soft screws most likely won't come out easily as well. > Any ideas? > > Mike > > -------- > RV-10 builder (final system testing) > #511 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408086#408086 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:36:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Has this ever been done...
    From: "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com>
    Mike Andresen in AZ had this problem and machined a tool to fix it without cutting into the wing. I'm pretty sure he is on here, but don't know his moniker. He has a blog of his build that most likely describes it. His email is azcloudflyer@earthlink.net -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. FWF complete. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408095#408095


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    Time: 04:08:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Monster retread clearance issue?
    From: Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com>
    After ~300 landings on my original Aero Classics tires, it's almost time for new ones. Based on the recommendations here, I'm considering the Monster retreads. Do I need to worry about my wheel pant clearance? If so, I may just get the Aero Classics again. Thanks... -Rob -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying since March 2011 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K


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    Time: 04:27:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Has this ever been done...
    From: "Jim Berry" <jimberry@qwest.net>
    The info you are looking for is on the VAF site. Search for azcloudflyer 2011 for a description and photos of the tool he made. Jim Berry RV-10 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408099#408099


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    Time: 04:28:42 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Monster retread clearance issue?
    From: "PlaneAround,LLC" <strasnuts@gmail.com>
    I blew the sides out on one pant from switching to retreads and not widening the gap. Make sure you have clearance. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 5, 2013, at 16:07, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote: > After ~300 landings on my original Aero Classics tires, it's almost time f or new ones. Based on the recommendations here, I'm considering the Monster retreads. Do I need to worry about my wheel pant clearance? If so, I may j ust get the Aero Classics again. Thanks... > > -Rob > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 Flying since March 2011 > Woodinville, WA > http://kochman.net/N819K > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 05:10:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Has this ever been done...
    From: "tomhanaway" <tomhanaway1@gmail.com>
    Mike, I can confirm that arizonacloudflyers's tool works. Same issue, QB wings and they hadn't tightened the nut that holds the vent line to the end of wing. In my case,, the plane wasn't painted so I pulled the tanks for easier access. After putting the tanks back on, I tested to see if it would still work with the wings on. I can confirm that you will have sufficient access with just the wing walk covers removed. Tom Hanaway -------- RV-10. Built and sold RV-8a. Building Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408104#408104


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    Time: 05:12:03 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Monster retread clearance issue?
    The ones you get from Desser are NOT monster retreads. They are listed as H igh Performance Retreads. The "Monster" ones don't come in our size. Yes, t here may be a little more tread and clearance needed with any change in tire , but ours aren't Monster. Tim On Sep 5, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote: > After ~300 landings on my original Aero Classics tires, it's almost time f or new ones. Based on the recommendations here, I'm considering the Monster retreads. Do I need to worry about my wheel pant clearance? If so, I may j ust get the Aero Classics again. Thanks... > > -Rob > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 Flying since March 2011 > Woodinville, WA > http://kochman.net/N819K > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 05:30:42 PM PST US
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Monster retread clearance issue?
    I just switched back to Aero Classics from Desser retreads. I got about 200 landings out of the retreads. The thing I really didn't like was that the plane was VERY hard to pull around with the towbar using the retreads. The aeroclassics are much easier, and FWIW they weigh at least 4 lbs less per tire. Dave Saylor 831-750-0284 CL On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote: > After ~300 landings on my original Aero Classics tires, it's almost time > for new ones. Based on the recommendations here, I'm considering the > Monster retreads. Do I need to worry about my wheel pant clearance? If > so, I may just get the Aero Classics again. Thanks... > > -Rob > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 Flying since March 2011 > Woodinville, WA > http://kochman.net/N819K > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 06:08:01 PM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Monster retread clearance issue?
    Tim is correct, no monster retreads in our main gear size. I just replaced both mains two weeks ago with Desser retreads. I only had 120 hours on the original Aero Classics but I found one tire ruined from a dragging brake (and that brake pad worn down to the rivets). I replaced both tires just because. The only thing I could find on the brake problem was perhaps a rolled brake caliper 'O' ring. The right side was fine and that brake pad looked brand new. No problem with clearance on the retreads. The cores are Goodyear and the quality looked good. Carl From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 8:12 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Monster retread clearance issue? The ones you get from Desser are NOT monster retreads. They are listed as High Performance Retreads. The "Monster" ones don't come in our size. Yes, there may be a little more tread and clearance needed with any change in tire, but ours aren't Monster. Tim On Sep 5, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote: After ~300 landings on my original Aero Classics tires, it's almost time for new ones. Based on the recommendations here, I'm considering the Monster retreads. Do I need to worry about my wheel pant clearance? If so, I may just get the Aero Classics again. Thanks... -Rob -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying since March 2011 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K D======================== ========= D======================== ========= D======================== ========= D======================== =========


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    Time: 06:43:44 PM PST US
    From: Chris <toaster73@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Nose gear leg fairing
    Its PPG Deltron base with clear. K36 primer and alodined. -Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: jkreidler <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com> Sent: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 07:52:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RV10-List: Re: Nose gear leg fairing May I ask what kind of paint you used? - Jason -------- Jason Kreidler 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler N44YH - Flying - #40617 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408051#408051


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    Time: 07:41:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Has this ever been done...
    From: "bill.peyton" <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net>
    here is the link http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=74258 -------- Bill WA0SYV Aviation Partners, LLC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408114#408114


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    Time: 08:10:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Monster retread clearance issue?
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    I would advise against the Monster Retreads. Yes they might last a bit longer, but you will do less landings as you get more time, and the landings will be ever so much smoother that the replacements will last twice as long. ;-) I use standard Desser retreads on my Mooney, where clearance in the gear wells would be an issue with the Monster retreads. Never had a clearance problem. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote: > After ~300 landings on my original Aero Classics tires, it's almost time > for new ones. Based on the recommendations here, I'm considering the > Monster retreads. Do I need to worry about my wheel pant clearance? If > so, I may just get the Aero Classics again. Thanks... > > -Rob > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 Flying since March 2011 > Woodinville, WA > http://kochman.net/N819K > > * > > * > > -- - sent from the microchip implanted in my forearm


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    Time: 09:23:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Has this ever been done...
    From: Tim Farrell <tim@AirCraftersLLC.com>
    We were able to do it here, with a bit of patience, some smaller hands and . . . offset wrenches?? I don't remember exactly, but no need to cut your tanks open! I'll have to ask the guy who did it what he did ... On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:35 PM, woxofswa <woxof@aol.com> wrote: > > Mike Andresen in AZ had this problem and machined a tool to fix it without > cutting into the wing. > > I'm pretty sure he is on here, but don't know his moniker. He has a blog > of his build that most likely describes it. His email is > azcloudflyer@earthlink.net > > -------- > Myron Nelson > Mesa, AZ > Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. FWF > complete. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408095#408095 > > -- *Aircrafters* 140 Aviation Way Watsonville CA, 95076 KWVI 831-722-9141 www.AircraftersLLC.com


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    Time: 11:53:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Has this ever been done...
    From: "Mike Whisky" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
    Great, thats exactly the info I was hoping for! Did I ever mention this forum is GREAT!! Mike -------- RV-10 builder (final system testing) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408121#408121




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