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1. 05:32 AM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (ivankris)
2. 06:44 AM - Re: Flying a Cat (johngoodman)
3. 07:46 AM - Re: Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (Kelly McMullen)
4. 09:00 AM - Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar (Sean Stephens)
5. 09:23 AM - Re: Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
6. 09:30 AM - Re: Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar (Tcwtech)
7. 09:37 AM - Re: Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar (Linn Walters)
8. 09:53 AM - Re: Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar (Les Kearney)
9. 10:13 AM - Re: Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
10. 10:35 AM - Re: Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar (Sean Stephens)
11. 12:03 PM - Re: Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar (Bob Turner)
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. |
I forgot to attach the following picture.
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Ivan Kristensen.
www.ivankristensen.com
Builder # 40838
Flying (430hrs.)
C-GMDV
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| Subject: | Re: Flying a Cat |
They survived!
John
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#40572 Phase One complete and flying.
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. |
For clarity to US pilots, your stops were Westchester NY (KHPN) and
Monmouth NJ (KBLM).
Glad you had a good trip.
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On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:32 AM, ivankris <ivankris@rogers.com> wrote:
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> I forgot to attach the following picture.
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> Ivan Kristensen.
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> www.ivankristensen.com
> Builder # 40838
> Flying (430hrs.)
> C-GMDV
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| Subject: | Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar |
I'm getting ready to take the fuselage to the hangar and I wanted to
check on a couple things first.
I am bit worried about the wench on the tow truck hooking to the nose
gear to get it on the truck. Not sure the weld on the front is meant to
take stresses in that direction? Is that fine or are there other options?
Anyone with a parking break, did you put fluid in the system and set the
parking break when on the truck?
I know the tilt of the truck when loading has the potential to rub the
tail when loading and unloading. I have grades at pickup and delivery
that would probably help that, but I assume you just have to be aware
and watch for that.
-Sean #40303 (last 90% to go)
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| Subject: | Re: Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar |
There a different sizes of flatbeds available. You want one with a roll dow
n bed and you also want one with a totally flat bed with the tie down rails
flush with the deck, not up as the wheels may not clear especially if you
have the axle extensions on for the wheel fairings. My driver arrived with
the smaller flatbed and had to go get the larger one. The deck needs to be
long and fully extended before tilting down to the ground. I had no problem
getting up and on with plenty of ground clearance at the tail. I have park
ing brakes and used them. The operator had a tow strap that we wrapped arou
nd the nose strut twice then hooked to the winch cable hook. It worked grea
t and the strut was not stressed at all. I purchased 4 HD ratcheting 12' st
raps and good thing I had them. I put a bolt through the spars at the botto
m outboard holes on each side. I used one strap per side hooking on the bol
t and the flush strapping/tie-down rail. Tightened just enough to full the
tires down about 3/4". Then I strapped the other two tie-downs to the tail
tie-down ring and out to the aft corners of the deck. Tightened up just eno
ugh to pull the tail down a couple inches and equal tension on the nose str
ut strap/winch. I then set the parking brake. I followed behind the flatbed
and the plane was rock solid to the deck all the way to the hanger partial
ly on a 2 mile pot hole filled dirt road. He made two trips. One for the pl
ane and another for the wings. It was the best $200 I ever spent renting th
at flatbed wrecker and driver IMHO.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Stephens" <sean@stephensville.com>
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:59:49 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar
I'm getting ready to take the fuselage to the hangar and I wanted to
check on a couple things first.
I am bit worried about the wench on the tow truck hooking to the nose
gear to get it on the truck. Not sure the weld on the front is meant to
take stresses in that direction? Is that fine or are there other options?
Anyone with a parking break, did you put fluid in the system and set the
parking break when on the truck?
I know the tilt of the truck when loading has the potential to rub the
tail when loading and unloading. I have grades at pickup and delivery
that would probably help that, but I assume you just have to be aware
and watch for that.
-Sean #40303 (last 90% to go)
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| Subject: | Re: Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar |
Although I used a flatbed trailer instead of a tow truck I considered the same
issues. I decided to put a 2" nylon strap around the main gear and use that to
pull on with a winch. Also I put the fuselage on tail first
Bob Newman
N541RV
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On Sep 16, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com> wrote:
>
> I'm getting ready to take the fuselage to the hangar and I wanted to check on
a couple things first.
>
> I am bit worried about the wench on the tow truck hooking to the nose gear to
get it on the truck. Not sure the weld on the front is meant to take stresses
in that direction? Is that fine or are there other options?
>
> Anyone with a parking break, did you put fluid in the system and set the parking
break when on the truck?
>
> I know the tilt of the truck when loading has the potential to rub the tail when
loading and unloading. I have grades at pickup and delivery that would probably
help that, but I assume you just have to be aware and watch for that.
>
> -Sean #40303 (last 90% to go)
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar |
On 9/16/2013 11:59 AM, Sean Stephens wrote:
>
> I'm getting ready to take the fuselage to the hangar and I wanted to
> check on a couple things first.
>
> I am bit worried about the wench on the tow truck
You have wenches on your tow trucks????? Wish we had them here. All we
have is unshaven guys with pot bellies!!!!
> hooking to the nose gear to get it on the truck. Not sure the weld on
> the front is meant to take stresses in that direction? Is that fine
> or are there other options?
If you have a tow bar then use that to pull the airplane. Strap the tow
bar so it doesn't come unhooked. Barring that a strap just above the
nosewheel fork will do just fine. There really isn't much stress
pulling it up an incline.
> Anyone with a parking break, did you put fluid in the system and set
> the parking break when on the truck?
That wouldn't be a bad idea, but when it's strapped down to the bed of
the tow truck it won't (or shouldn't) go anywhere.
> I know the tilt of the truck when loading has the potential to rub the
> tail when loading and unloading. I have grades at pickup and delivery
> that would probably help that, but I assume you just have to be aware
> and watch for that.
The tow truck should have ramps (only two though) or you could borrow
.... three .... to make the angle with the ground less severe.
Take lots of pictures!!!!
Linn
>
> -Sean #40303 (last 90% to go)
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar |
Sean
With a small ramp, I was able to put my fuse on a flat bed by have someone push
on each side - pushing on the gear leg and wing spar. It was actually very easy.
I also had a winch on the nose gear but the load was spread evenly between
the push and pull.
Cheers
Les
Sent from my iPhone
On 2013-09-16, at 10:29 AM, Tcwtech <rnewman@tcwtech.com> wrote:
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> Although I used a flatbed trailer instead of a tow truck I considered the same
issues. I decided to put a 2" nylon strap around the main gear and use that
to pull on with a winch. Also I put the fuselage on tail first
>
> Bob Newman
> N541RV
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 16, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm getting ready to take the fuselage to the hangar and I wanted to check on
a couple things first.
>>
>> I am bit worried about the wench on the tow truck hooking to the nose gear to
get it on the truck. Not sure the weld on the front is meant to take stresses
in that direction? Is that fine or are there other options?
>>
>> Anyone with a parking break, did you put fluid in the system and set the parking
break when on the truck?
>>
>> I know the tilt of the truck when loading has the potential to rub the tail
when loading and unloading. I have grades at pickup and delivery that would probably
help that, but I assume you just have to be aware and watch for that.
>>
>> -Sean #40303 (last 90% to go)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar |
Oh, And while the driver slowly winched the plane up, I had the Bogi Bar ho
oked up and helped steer the nose wheel.
----- Original Message -----
From: davidsoutpost@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:23:25 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar
There a different sizes of flatbeds available. You want one with a roll dow
n bed and you also want one with a totally flat bed with the tie down rails
flush with the deck, not up as the wheels may not clear especially if you
have the axle extensions on for the wheel fairings. My driver arrived with
the smaller flatbed and had to go get the larger one. The deck needs to be
long and fully extended before tilting down to the ground. I had no problem
getting up and on with plenty of ground clearance at the tail. I have park
ing brakes and used them. The operator had a tow strap that we wrapped arou
nd the nose strut twice then hooked to the winch cable hook. It worked grea
t and the strut was not stressed at all. I purchased 4 HD ratcheting 12' st
raps and good thing I had them. I put a bolt through the spars at the botto
m outboard holes on each side. I used one strap per side hooking on the bol
t and the flush strapping/tie-down rail. Tightened just enough to full the
tires down about 3/4". Then I strapped the other two tie-downs to the tail
tie-down ring and out to the aft corners of the deck. Tightened up just eno
ugh to pull the tail down a couple inches and equal tension on the nose str
ut strap/winch. I then set the parking brake. I followed behind the flatbed
and the plane was rock solid to the deck all the way to the hanger partial
ly on a 2 mile pot hole filled dirt road. He made two trips. One for the pl
ane and another for the wings. It was the best $200 I ever spent renting th
at flatbed wrecker and driver IMHO.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Stephens" <sean@stephensville.com>
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:59:49 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar
I'm getting ready to take the fuselage to the hangar and I wanted to
check on a couple things first.
I am bit worried about the wench on the tow truck hooking to the nose
gear to get it on the truck. Not sure the weld on the front is meant to
take stresses in that direction? Is that fine or are there other options?
Anyone with a parking break, did you put fluid in the system and set the
parking break when on the truck?
I know the tilt of the truck when loading has the potential to rub the
tail when loading and unloading. I have grades at pickup and delivery
that would probably help that, but I assume you just have to be aware
and watch for that.
===
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| Subject: | Re: Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar |
Thanks all. And yes, we have wenches on our tow trucks here. You pay
extra for it, but it is worth it. Wench, winch, they both pull. :)
DO NOT ARCHIVE
On 9/16/13 11:36 AM, Linn Walters wrote:
> You have wenches on your tow trucks????? Wish we had them here. All
> we have is unshaven guys with pot bellies!!!!
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| Subject: | Re: Flatbed Tow Truck To Hangar |
I rented a roll down bed truck and drove it myself. Earlier I visited the rental
place with a tape measure. Only one of their trucks had a wide enough bed.
I did not have the engine on so it was easy to winch up backwards, using the tail
tie down.
I used rope to tie down the wheels, which only had an inch or so to spare from
the edge of the bed. Good thing: I also chocked the wheels but after 15 miles
of pot holed CA freeway, the chocks got lost somewhere along the way.
I also rented a pallet jack, and made a second trip for the engine (still in Lycoming
box, on a pallet), prop, and wings (still on their wing stands but lots
of rope).
I bought overpriced builder's insurance only because it covered this trip.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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