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1. 03:43 AM - Re: Outboard Tension Rod (John Trollinger)
2. 04:10 AM - Re: Outboard Tension Rod (Kelly McMullen)
3. 07:11 AM - Re: Outboard Tension Rod (Pascal)
4. 09:21 AM - Re: W17, KLHZ or other? (Bill Watson)
5. 11:11 AM - Re: W17, KLHZ or other? (Jesse Saint)
6. 11:50 AM - RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III (Mike Whisky)
7. 11:57 AM - Re: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III (Tim Olson)
8. 12:25 PM - Re: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III (Ralph E. Capen)
9. 01:07 PM - Re: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III (Kelly McMullen)
10. 04:15 PM - Re: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III (Aaron)
11. 05:38 PM - Wing Dihedral (Albert Gardner)
12. 06:19 PM - Re: Wing Dihedral (PlaneAround,LLC)
13. 06:29 PM - Re: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III (PlaneAround,LLC)
14. 06:41 PM - Re: W17, KLHZ or other? (Chris)
15. 06:49 PM - Re: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III (Chris)
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| Subject: | Re: Outboard Tension Rod |
What is the purpose of the tension rods, is it to pull the baffling close
to the cylinders, or is it to hold the baffling in place as air moves
around the engine.
I ask because I made the rods per the plans and they do not seem to pull
the baffling close to the cylinders at all and I am not sure if they are to
long, or if that is the expected behavior.
thanks,
John
40923
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>wrote:
>
> ... just to report on the feedback from Joe at Vans:
>
> He said that the curved portion of the air ramps should be pulled in as
> close to the fins as possible, but suggested a bead of red RTV near the
> flange to keep them from actually touching. If they touch, the fins will
> eventually wear through the baffle.
>
> He offered that safety wire could be used instead of the rods, but that
> some kind of steel around the flange of the baffle would be necessary to
> keep the wire from cutting through the baffle at the hole.
>
> Two nuts or loctite is what I need to use as the lock nuts don't seem to
> be "locking"
>
>
> On Sep 21, 2013, at 3:18 PM, Jeff Carpenter wrote:
>
> > When I make the outboard tension rods to the plan specs, I get the gap
> you see in the attached picture between the curved portion of the fwd left
> air ramp and the cooling fins. Is this correct, or should a make a new
> tension rod to reduce the gap?
> >
> > Also, I don't feel much resistance as I tighten the MS21042-06 lock nut
> on the 6-32 threaded end of the tension rod. Is this peculiar to me or have
> others found this? Any suggestions to keep this from backing off in flight?
> >
> > Jeff Carpenter
> > 40304
> >
> > <photo.jpeg>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Outboard Tension Rod |
They are supposed to do both. You need to get most of the air to exit where
the openings are, centered on each cylinder. Think what will happen with
the baffles with no rods and 200 mph air flowing past them. You want an
even gap, about 1/8" between cylinders and the baffle, which should not be
wider at the bottom.
Makes me wonder if some of the folks reporting high CHTs have baffles
pulled snug like they should be.
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 6:42 AM, John Trollinger <john@trollingers.com>wrote:
> What is the purpose of the tension rods, is it to pull the baffling close
> to the cylinders, or is it to hold the baffling in place as air moves
> around the engine.
>
> I ask because I made the rods per the plans and they do not seem to pull
> the baffling close to the cylinders at all and I am not sure if they are to
> long, or if that is the expected behavior.
>
> thanks,
>
> John
> 40923
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> ... just to report on the feedback from Joe at Vans:
>>
>> He said that the curved portion of the air ramps should be pulled in as
>> close to the fins as possible, but suggested a bead of red RTV near the
>> flange to keep them from actually touching. If they touch, the fins will
>> eventually wear through the baffle.
>>
>> He offered that safety wire could be used instead of the rods, but that
>> some kind of steel around the flange of the baffle would be necessary to
>> keep the wire from cutting through the baffle at the hole.
>>
>> Two nuts or loctite is what I need to use as the lock nuts don't seem to
>> be "locking"
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Outboard Tension Rod |
Let me tell you from experience, (Eci cylinders) you want to assure
there is no where for the air to go than through the cylinders. I recall
the tension rods were an issue for me as well. I have RTV on both sides
(inside and outside of baffles), but I also have a good fit with front
and back tight enough that it will hold solid and not work itself loose.
From: John Trollinger
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Outboard Tension Rod
What is the purpose of the tension rods, is it to pull the baffling
close to the cylinders, or is it to hold the baffling in place as air
moves around the engine.
I ask because I made the rods per the plans and they do not seem to pull
the baffling close to the cylinders at all and I am not sure if they are
to long, or if that is the expected behavior.
thanks,
John
40923
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
wrote:
<jeff@westcottpress.com>
... just to report on the feedback from Joe at Vans:
He said that the curved portion of the air ramps should be pulled in
as close to the fins as possible, but suggested a bead of red RTV near
the flange to keep them from actually touching. If they touch, the fins
will eventually wear through the baffle.
He offered that safety wire could be used instead of the rods, but
that some kind of steel around the flange of the baffle would be
necessary to keep the wire from cutting through the baffle at the hole.
Two nuts or loctite is what I need to use as the lock nuts don't seem
to be "locking"
On Sep 21, 2013, at 3:18 PM, Jeff Carpenter wrote:
> When I make the outboard tension rods to the plan specs, I get the
gap you see in the attached picture between the curved portion of the
fwd left air ramp and the cooling fins. Is this correct, or should a
make a new tension rod to reduce the gap?
>
> Also, I don't feel much resistance as I tighten the MS21042-06 lock
nut on the 6-32 threaded end of the tension rod. Is this peculiar to me
or have others found this? Any suggestions to keep this from backing off
in flight?
>
> Jeff Carpenter
> 40304
>
> <photo.jpeg>
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| Subject: | Re: W17, KLHZ or other? |
I'm close by at 8NC8 but not sure I can help. I'm so close I haven't
flown into either place in years.
I'd strongly suggest KLHZ over W17 just based on long ago experience.
KLHZ is a real nice facility - no extras but it's all there. I'm
actually surprised to hear W17 is in full operation - seemed like there
was helicopter training/ops going on there and not much else. Runway
has a significant dip as I recall and needed resurfacing.
8NC8 is a little far away given your mission. Not so smooth grass with
100LL and Jet A (!!). I could probably find you a shade hangar. I can
sell you fuel. It was 5.75 in Aug, don't know what September and
October are or will be. But you are more than welcome, just let me
know. It would be great seeing you.
Bill "sharing the fact that Wake Forest University is not in or near the
town of Wake Forest" Watson
PS: A bit of little know local knowledge about KRDU - Though not the
best fuel stop for most of us because of large airport prices and such,
it is centrally located for visitors to Raleigh/Durham/RTP with 2 full
service FBOs and all. It's where I'd fly into if I didn't live here.
However, it is also a nice little breakfast or lunch stop. There is a
"General Aviation Terminal" in the middle of the GA ramp between the 2
FBOs. It has a nice snack bar on the 2nd floor with a glassed in
balcony overlooking the GA ramp and a runway. Just park as directed in
front of one of the FBOs (I go to TAC Air) and tell them you are going
to the snack bar. They'll show you the way. I've never been charged
for parking. It's one of the best unknown $100 'burger, airplane
watching locations around.
On 9/24/2013 7:11 PM, Jesse Saint wrote:
>
> I'm flying the -10 up to the Wake Forest area next Thursday, Oct 3, and am going
to be camping about half way between W17 and KLHZ for 2-3 nights. Any recommendations
for the best FBO for keeping a plane for 3 nights and decent fuel
prices and service. The locals always know where is best. A shade hangar would
be great if available. I have a friend picking me up, so either place works for
that. Any suggestion to either of these airports or another local field would
be much appreciated.
>
> Jesse
>
> Do not archive
>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: W17, KLHZ or other? |
Bill,
Thanks for the information. I agree that 8NC8 is probably too far away, so I think
KLHZ will be the best, unless my ride prefers KRDU. Thanks for the local knowledge!
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> I'm close by at 8NC8 but not sure I can help. I'm so close I haven't flown into
either place in years.
>
> I'd strongly suggest KLHZ over W17 just based on long ago experience. KLHZ is
a real nice facility - no extras but it's all there. I'm actually surprised
to hear W17 is in full operation - seemed like there was helicopter training/ops
going on there and not much else. Runway has a significant dip as I recall
and needed resurfacing.
>
> 8NC8 is a little far away given your mission. Not so smooth grass with 100LL
and Jet A (!!). I could probably find you a shade hangar. I can sell you fuel.
It was 5.75 in Aug, don't know what September and October are or will be.
But you are more than welcome, just let me know. It would be great seeing you.
>
> Bill "sharing the fact that Wake Forest University is not in or near the town
of Wake Forest" Watson
>
> PS: A bit of little know local knowledge about KRDU - Though not the best fuel
stop for most of us because of large airport prices and such, it is centrally
located for visitors to Raleigh/Durham/RTP with 2 full service FBOs and all.
It's where I'd fly into if I didn't live here. However, it is also a nice
little breakfast or lunch stop. There is a "General Aviation Terminal" in the
middle of the GA ramp between the 2 FBOs. It has a nice snack bar on the 2nd
floor with a glassed in balcony overlooking the GA ramp and a runway. Just park
as directed in front of one of the FBOs (I go to TAC Air) and tell them you
are going to the snack bar. They'll show you the way. I've never been charged
for parking. It's one of the best unknown $100 'burger, airplane watching
locations around.
>
> On 9/24/2013 7:11 PM, Jesse Saint wrote:
>>
>> I'm flying the -10 up to the Wake Forest area next Thursday, Oct 3, and am going
to be camping about half way between W17 and KLHZ for 2-3 nights. Any recommendations
for the best FBO for keeping a plane for 3 nights and decent fuel
prices and service. The locals always know where is best. A shade hangar would
be great if available. I have a friend picking me up, so either place works
for that. Any suggestion to either of these airports or another local field would
be much appreciated.
>>
>> Jesse
>>
>> Do not archive
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> No virus found in this message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>
>>
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>
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| Subject: | RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III |
Hi,
on todays runup I saw that the RMP drop for the mag (EI off) is about 260 RPM which
seems to be quite a lot to me, the drop on the EI (mag off) is only 20 RPM.
I am used to see only 100 RPM in the planes I flew. Is this due to the higher
RPM that the EI delivers or do I need to look at the timing of the mag. What
are others seeing with the same setup?
Thanks
Mike
--------
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#511
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409210#409210
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| Subject: | Re: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III |
I think you'll see a little of everything in replies. On mine, I've
seen maybe 20-40rpm,
but I've been in other fine working RV-10's that drop 200+ So I'm not
sure why
the difference, but certainly you will find variation.
On 9/25/2013 1:50 PM, Mike Whisky wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> on todays runup I saw that the RMP drop for the mag (EI off) is about 260 RPM
which seems to be quite a lot to me, the drop on the EI (mag off) is only 20
RPM. I am used to see only 100 RPM in the planes I flew. Is this due to the higher
RPM that the EI delivers or do I need to look at the timing of the mag. What
are others seeing with the same setup?
>
> Thanks
> Mike
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (flying, test phase)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409210#409210
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III |
I have seen mine different after I adjust the idle mixture...
-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Whisky <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
>Sent: Sep 25, 2013 2:50 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III
>
>
>Hi,
>
>on todays runup I saw that the RMP drop for the mag (EI off) is about 260 RPM
which seems to be quite a lot to me, the drop on the EI (mag off) is only 20 RPM.
I am used to see only 100 RPM in the planes I flew. Is this due to the higher
RPM that the EI delivers or do I need to look at the timing of the mag. What
are others seeing with the same setup?
>
>Thanks
>Mike
>
>--------
>RV-10 builder (flying, test phase)
>#511
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409210#409210
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III |
You make a good point. Idle mixture should be set so that rpm rise when
pulled to idle cut off is between 25 and 50 rpm, no more. If you see no
rise, it is too lean, if more than 50 it is too rich.
If the drop on mag check is smooth, no roughness, then mag is fine, and
whether the number is 50 or 200 doesn't really matter. OTOH, if rough, you
need to find the cause. Usually fouled plug, but can be mag itself.
Best is to check mags at altitude, at the end of your cruise, when you are
ready to start down. Just don't turn mag back on if it quits without it.
Retard mixture and throttle before turning mag back on to avoid possibility
of backfire and damage it can cause. That is why you want to do the check
with plenty of altitude, so there is no rush to relight fire if it quits.
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net>wrote:
>
> I have seen mine different after I adjust the idle mixture...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Mike Whisky <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
> >Sent: Sep 25, 2013 2:50 PM
> >To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: RV10-List: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III
> >
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >on todays runup I saw that the RMP drop for the mag (EI off) is about 260
> RPM which seems to be quite a lot to me, the drop on the EI (mag off) is
> only 20 RPM. I am used to see only 100 RPM in the planes I flew. Is this
> due to the higher RPM that the EI delivers or do I need to look at the
> timing of the mag. What are others seeing with the same setup?
> >
> >Thanks
> >Mike
> >
> >--------
> >RV-10 builder (flying, test phase)
> >#511
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Read this topic online here:
> >
> >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409210#409210
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III |
Your numbers sound really close to mine. I had the difference from day 1 with
new mag and annual timing checks indicate the mag timing is correct. Its been
325 hours with no issue. I would verify the engine does not run really rough
on 1 mag, and monitor over time to assure the drop doesn't get larger. I always
figured the EI was either a hotter spark driving more of the combustion, or
timed slightly earlier.
Aaron
Sent from my iPad
> On Sep 25, 2013, at 2:50 PM, "Mike Whisky" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> on todays runup I saw that the RMP drop for the mag (EI off) is about 260 RPM
which seems to be quite a lot to me, the drop on the EI (mag off) is only 20
RPM. I am used to see only 100 RPM in the planes I flew. Is this due to the higher
RPM that the EI delivers or do I need to look at the timing of the mag. What
are others seeing with the same setup?
>
> Thanks
> Mike
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (flying, test phase)
> #511
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409210#409210
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I'm putting a GoPro camera on my wing and need to make a shim to compensate
for the wing dihedral so that the camera sits level. Does anyone know how
many degrees it is?
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Dihedral |
Albert if you bought a mount from planearound I'll be adding a swivel soon s
o you can compensate for dihedral. I'll add a little on the price of new one
s and help a little for others who have already purchased the wing mounts.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 25, 2013, at 17:38, "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> I=99m putting a GoPro camera on my wing and need to make a shim to c
ompensate for the wing dihedral so that the camera sits level. Does anyone k
now how many degrees it is?
> Albert Gardner
> N991RV
> Yuma, AZ
>
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| Subject: | Re: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III |
As a point of reference mine shows 20 when on the plasma III and 150-170 when on
the mag. Mine is lean when testing mags on the ground. I believe it was pelican
perch that stated testing mags LOP in cruise is the best way to see problems
from the mag. I always test mine on run-up.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 25, 2013, at 16:15, Aaron <aarongleixner@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Your numbers sound really close to mine. I had the difference from day 1 with
new mag and annual timing checks indicate the mag timing is correct. Its been
325 hours with no issue. I would verify the engine does not run really rough
on 1 mag, and monitor over time to assure the drop doesn't get larger. I always
figured the EI was either a hotter spark driving more of the combustion,
or timed slightly earlier.
>
> Aaron
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Sep 25, 2013, at 2:50 PM, "Mike Whisky" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> on todays runup I saw that the RMP drop for the mag (EI off) is about 260 RPM
which seems to be quite a lot to me, the drop on the EI (mag off) is only 20
RPM. I am used to see only 100 RPM in the planes I flew. Is this due to the higher
RPM that the EI delivers or do I need to look at the timing of the mag.
What are others seeing with the same setup?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Mike
>>
>> --------
>> RV-10 builder (flying, test phase)
>> #511
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409210#409210
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | W17, KLHZ or other? |
I concur, and check GWW for fuel next week they talked about reducing $.20
from the current $5.48 at some point next week.
-Chris Lucas
N919AR
EWN
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: W17, KLHZ or other?
Bill,
Thanks for the information. I agree that 8NC8 is probably too far away, so I
think KLHZ will be the best, unless my ride prefers KRDU. Thanks for the
local knowledge!
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> I'm close by at 8NC8 but not sure I can help. I'm so close I haven't
flown into either place in years.
>
> I'd strongly suggest KLHZ over W17 just based on long ago experience.
KLHZ is a real nice facility - no extras but it's all there. I'm actually
surprised to hear W17 is in full operation - seemed like there was
helicopter training/ops going on there and not much else. Runway has a
significant dip as I recall and needed resurfacing.
>
> 8NC8 is a little far away given your mission. Not so smooth grass with
100LL and Jet A (!!). I could probably find you a shade hangar. I can sell
you fuel. It was 5.75 in Aug, don't know what September and October are or
will be. But you are more than welcome, just let me know. It would be
great seeing you.
>
> Bill "sharing the fact that Wake Forest University is not in or near
> the town of Wake Forest" Watson
>
> PS: A bit of little know local knowledge about KRDU - Though not the best
fuel stop for most of us because of large airport prices and such, it is
centrally located for visitors to Raleigh/Durham/RTP with 2 full service
FBOs and all. It's where I'd fly into if I didn't live here. However, it
is also a nice little breakfast or lunch stop. There is a "General Aviation
Terminal" in the middle of the GA ramp between the 2 FBOs. It has a nice
snack bar on the 2nd floor with a glassed in balcony overlooking the GA ramp
and a runway. Just park as directed in front of one of the FBOs (I go to
TAC Air) and tell them you are going to the snack bar. They'll show you the
way. I've never been charged for parking. It's one of the best unknown
$100 'burger, airplane watching locations around.
>
> On 9/24/2013 7:11 PM, Jesse Saint wrote:
>> --> <jesse@saintaviation.com>
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| Subject: | RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III |
...And the Lycoming operators manual states:
A smooth drop-off past normal specification of 175 RPM is usually a sign of
a too lean or too rich mixture.
(3) If RPM drop exceeds 175 RPM slowly lean mixture until RPM peaks. Then
retard the throttle to the RPM specified (50-65%) for the magneto check and
repeat check. (Paraphrasing now) If the drop off does not exceed 175 RPM and
50 RPM difference with smooth running continue on.
-Chris
N919AR
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III
You make a good point. Idle mixture should be set so that rpm rise when
pulled to idle cut off is between 25 and 50 rpm, no more. If you see no
rise, it is too lean, if more than 50 it is too rich.
If the drop on mag check is smooth, no roughness, then mag is fine, and
whether the number is 50 or 200 doesn't really matter. OTOH, if rough, you
need to find the cause. Usually fouled plug, but can be mag itself.
Best is to check mags at altitude, at the end of your cruise, when you are
ready to start down. Just don't turn mag back on if it quits without it.
Retard mixture and throttle before turning mag back on to avoid possibility
of backfire and damage it can cause. That is why you want to do the check
with plenty of altitude, so there is no rush to relight fire if it quits.
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net>
wrote:
I have seen mine different after I adjust the idle mixture...
-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Whisky <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
>Sent: Sep 25, 2013 2:50 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III
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>Hi,
>
>on todays runup I saw that the RMP drop for the mag (EI off) is about 260
RPM which seems to be quite a lot to me, the drop on the EI (mag off) is
only 20 RPM. I am used to see only 100 RPM in the planes I flew. Is this due
to the higher RPM that the EI delivers or do I need to look at the timing of
the mag. What are others seeing with the same setup?
>
>Thanks
>Mike
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>RV-10 builder (flying, test phase)
>#511
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409210#409210
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