---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/26/13: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:46 AM - Re: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III (Nikolaos Napoli) 2. 05:16 AM - Re: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III (Linn Walters) 3. 05:48 AM - First Flight Video HB-YNN now online (Mike Whisky) 4. 06:17 AM - Re: First Flight Video HB-YNN now online (Linn Walters) 5. 09:13 AM - Re: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III (Mike Whisky) 6. 10:22 AM - Spar Spacers (MTBehnke) 7. 10:40 AM - Re: Spar Spacers (Bob Leffler) 8. 11:11 AM - Re: Spar Spacers (William Greenley) 9. 12:38 PM - Re: Spar Spacers (davidsoutpost@comcast.net) 10. 07:32 PM - Re: First Flight Video HB-YNN now online (Patrick Pulis) 11. 08:05 PM - Re: First Flight Video HB-YNN now online (efdsteve@aol.com) 12. 08:19 PM - Re: First Flight Video HB-YNN now online (Roxanne and Mike Lefever) 13. 09:49 PM - Re: First Flight Video HB-YNN now online (bruce breckenridge) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:46:18 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III From: Nikolaos Napoli Hi Mike I have seen similar numbers to yours on hot and humid days. I have since started doing the mag check leaned a bit and it has not exceeded 200 rpm drop on the hottest days. On cool days the drop is under 100rpm. No engine roughness during mag check or flight. Niko Nikolaos Napoli > On Sep 25, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Mike Whisky wrote: > > > Hi, > > on todays runup I saw that the RMP drop for the mag (EI off) is about 260 RPM which seems to be quite a lot to me, the drop on the EI (mag off) is only 20 RPM. I am used to see only 100 RPM in the planes I flew. Is this due to the higher RPM that the EI delivers or do I need to look at the timing of the mag. What are others seeing with the same setup? > > Thanks > Mike > > -------- > RV-10 builder (flying, test phase) > #511 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409210#409210 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:24 AM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III I'm guessing that you're set up a little too rich. All other parameters being the same. Having said that, being able to read a digital RPM Vs. an analog gauge may account for some of the disparity. Linn On 9/25/2013 9:44 PM, Nikolaos Napoli wrote: > > Hi Mike > > I have seen similar numbers to yours on hot and humid days. I have since started doing the mag check leaned a bit and it has not exceeded 200 rpm drop on the hottest days. On cool days the drop is under 100rpm. No engine roughness during mag check or flight. > > Niko > > Nikolaos Napoli > >> On Sep 25, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Mike Whisky wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> on todays runup I saw that the RMP drop for the mag (EI off) is about 260 RPM which seems to be quite a lot to me, the drop on the EI (mag off) is only 20 RPM. I am used to see only 100 RPM in the planes I flew. Is this due to the higher RPM that the EI delivers or do I need to look at the timing of the mag. What are others seeing with the same setup? >> >> Thanks >> Mike >> >> -------- >> RV-10 builder (flying, test phase) >> #511 >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409210#409210 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:14 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: First Flight Video HB-YNN now online From: "Mike Whisky" Dear all, as promised I put HB-YNN first flight video online. Its 18 min and HD so turn up the sound sit back and enjoy. Hope that is a motivation boost for those pounding rivets. And thanks to all listers for your input and prompt answers! http://youtu.be/X7EQ81C3xSA Regards Michael -------- RV-10 builder (flying, test phase) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409264#409264 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:49 AM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: First Flight Video HB-YNN now online Awesome! Finally, at the very end ..... the RV grin!!!! Now, back to work for me! Linn On 9/26/2013 8:47 AM, Mike Whisky wrote: > > Dear all, > > as promised I put HB-YNN first flight video online. > Its 18 min and HD so turn up the sound sit back and enjoy. > Hope that is a motivation boost for those pounding rivets. > And thanks to all listers for your input and prompt answers! > > http://youtu.be/X7EQ81C3xSA > > Regards > Michael > > -------- > RV-10 builder (flying, test phase) > #511 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409264#409264 > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:42 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: RPM drop Mag and EI LS Plasma III From: "Mike Whisky" Thank you all, I'll try to lean next time and verify idle mixture once more. Thanks Mike -------- RV-10 builder (flying, test phase) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409283#409283 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:22:16 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Spar Spacers From: "MTBehnke" I'm working on joining the forward and center fuselage sections. When I bolted the two spar sections together with the (13) .125" and (1) .063" spacer, I'm finding the gap between the spars is around 1.72"-1.73" at each side and top and bottom, compared to the 1.6875" thickness of the wing spars. If I measure each of the spacers, the actual thickness of the .125" spacers varies from .1264" to .1269", and the .063" ones are a little thicker as well. These cumulative variations in thickness result in the gap for the wing spars being wider than the spar itself by around .030 to 0.40". I also noticed that the rivet holes in the bottom of the spar carry-thru sections and the skins is slightly off due to this same issue. I'm thinking of skipping the included spacers and making my own out of plywood. Did any other slow-builders run into spacing issues with their spars? Thanks, -------- Mike Behnke RV-9A Flying RV-10 Fuselage Andover, MN Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409292#409292 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:40:05 AM PST US From: Bob Leffler Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spar Spacers I don't recall having any problems with the spacers. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:21 PM, "MTBehnke" wrote: I'm working on joining the forward and center fuselage sections. When I bolted the two spar sections together with the (13) .125" and (1) .063" spacer, I'm finding the gap between the spars is around 1.72"-1.73" at each side and top and bottom, compared to the 1.6875" thickness of the wing spars. If I measure each of the spacers, the actual thickness of the .125" spacers varies from .1264" to .1269", and the .063" ones are a little thicker as well. These cumulative variations in thickness result in the gap for the wing spars being wider than the spar itself by around .030 to 0.40". I also noticed that the rivet holes in the bottom of the spar carry-thru sections and the skins is slightly off due to this same issue. I'm thinking of skipping the included spacers and making my own out of plywood. Did any other slow-builders run into spacing issues with their spars? Thanks, -------- Mike Behnke RV-9A Flying RV-10 Fuselage Andover, MN Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409292#409292 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:11:59 AM PST US From: "William Greenley" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Spar Spacers The only thing I had to do was deburr the edges of the spacers, otherwise they did not stack together well. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 1:39 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spar Spacers I don't recall having any problems with the spacers. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:21 PM, "MTBehnke" wrote: I'm working on joining the forward and center fuselage sections. When I bolted the two spar sections together with the (13) .125" and (1) .063" spacer, I'm finding the gap between the spars is around 1.72"-1.73" at each side and top and bottom, compared to the 1.6875" thickness of the wing spars. If I measure each of the spacers, the actual thickness of the .125" spacers varies from .1264" to .1269", and the .063" ones are a little thicker as well. These cumulative variations in thickness result in the gap for the wing spars being wider than the spar itself by around .030 to 0.40". I also noticed that the rivet holes in the bottom of the spar carry-thru sections and the skins is slightly off due to this same issue. I'm thinking of skipping the included spacers and making my own out of plywood. Did any other slow-builders run into spacing issues with their spars? Thanks, -------- Mike Behnke RV-9A Flying RV-10 Fuselage Andover, MN Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409292#409292 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:38:10 PM PST US From: davidsoutpost@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spar Spacers Make sure your spacers are burr free and clamp them up. Everything will line up just as they should provided you use the correct spacers supplied by Vans. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MTBehnke" Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 1:21:45 PM Subject: RV10-List: Spar Spacers I'm working on joining the forward and center fuselage sections. When I bolted the two spar sections together with the (13) .125" and (1) .063" spacer, I'm finding the gap between the spars is around 1.72"-1.73" at each side and top and bottom, compared to the 1.6875" thickness of the wing spars. If I measure each of the spacers, the actual thickness of the .125" spacers varies from .1264" to .1269", and the .063" ones are a little thicker as well. These cumulative variations in thickness result in the gap for the wing spars being wider than the spar itself by around .030 to 0.40". I also noticed that the rivet holes in the bottom of the spar carry-thru sections and the skins is slightly off due to this same issue. I'm thinking of skipping the included spacers and making my own out of plywood. Did any other slow-builders run into spacing issues with their spars? Thanks, -------- Mike Behnke RV-9A Flying RV-10 Fuselage Andover, MN Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409292#409292 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:32:43 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: First Flight Video HB-YNN now online From: Patrick Pulis Darn it Mike YouTube have blocked your video here in Australia due to copyright laws. God bless them. Bugger. Warm regards Patrick On 26/09/2013, at 22:47, "Mike Whisky" wrote: > > Dear all, > > as promised I put HB-YNN first flight video online. > Its 18 min and HD so turn up the sound sit back and enjoy. > Hope that is a motivation boost for those pounding rivets. > And thanks to all listers for your input and prompt answers! > > http://youtu.be/X7EQ81C3xSA > > Regards > Michael > > -------- > RV-10 builder (flying, test phase) > #511 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409264#409264 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:05:49 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: First Flight Video HB-YNN now online From: efdsteve@aol.com Congrats, Michael! Looking at your video, I'm wondering if your back windows can be opened? Is that a latch I see at the aft side of the back window? Steve Weinstock 40230 90% - 90% Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -----Original Message----- From: Mike Whisky Sent: Thu, Sep 26, 2013 07:48 AM Subject: RV10-List: First Flight Video HB-YNN now online Dear all, as promised I put HB-YNN first flight video online. Its 18 min and HD so turn up the sound sit back and enjoy. Hope that is a motivation boost for those pounding rivets. And thanks to all listers for your input and prompt answers! http://youtu.be/X7EQ81C3xSA Regards Michael -------- RV-10 builder (flying, test phase) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409264#409264 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:19:03 PM PST US From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever Subject: RE: RV10-List: First Flight Video HB-YNN now online congrats and very beautiful 10s I have ever seen.! > Subject: Re: RV10-List: First Flight Video HB-YNN now online > From: rv10free2fly@yahoo.com.au > Date: Fri=2C 27 Sep 2013 12:28:22 +1000 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > > > Darn it Mike > > YouTube have blocked your video here in Australia due to copyright laws. > > God bless them. Bugger. > > Warm regards > > Patrick > > On 26/09/2013=2C at 22:47=2C "Mike Whisky" wrote: > > > > > Dear all=2C > > > > as promised I put HB-YNN first flight video online. > > It=B4s 18 min and HD so turn up the sound sit back and enjoy. > > Hope that is a motivation boost for those pounding rivets. > > And thanks to all listers for your input and prompt answers! > > > > http://youtu.be/X7EQ81C3xSA > > > > Regards > > Michael > > > > -------- > > RV-10 builder (flying=2C test phase) > > #511 > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409264#409264 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:49:48 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: First Flight Video HB-YNN now online From: bruce breckenridge That was wonderful! My wife and I watched it to the very end - glued to every detail. Wonderful music! Excellent editing. Oh! And as for the plane... Well done! Bruce Breckenridge, Oregon USA 40018 Stasis (scratch building a Christavia!) On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 5:47 AM, Mike Whisky wrote: > > Dear all, > > as promised I put HB-YNN first flight video online. > It=B4s 18 min and HD so turn up the sound sit back and enjoy. > Hope that is a motivation boost for those pounding rivets. > And thanks to all listers for your input and prompt answers! > > http://youtu.be/X7EQ81C3xSA > > Regards > Michael > > -------- > RV-10 builder (flying, test phase) > #511 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409264#409264 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.