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1. 02:12 AM - Re: Fw: (eric.roumeas@free.fr)
2. 04:32 AM - Greetings, Rv10 List (Neal George)
3. 06:15 AM - Re: Greetings, Rv10 List (eric.roumeas@free.fr)
4. 07:38 AM - Re: Question to no pwr clean stall speeds (Mike Whisky)
5. 09:01 AM - Re: Re: Question to no pwr clean stall speeds (Carl Froehlich)
6. 09:41 AM - Re: Question to no pwr clean stall speeds (Bob Turner)
7. 11:42 AM - Re: Re: Question to no pwr clean stall speeds (Carl Froehlich)
8. 02:33 PM - Comm Antenna (Marcus Cooper)
9. 04:10 PM - Re: Comm Antenna (Linn Walters)
10. 04:32 PM - Re: Comm Antenna (Bob Turner)
11. 04:44 PM - Re: Comm Antenna (g.combs)
12. 05:55 PM - Re: Question to no pwr clean stall speeds (rv10flyer)
13. 05:55 PM - Re: Question to no pwr clean stall speeds (rv10flyer)
14. 05:56 PM - Re: Question to no pwr clean stall speeds (rv10flyer)
15. 09:18 PM - Re: Mechanical fuel pump pressure (rv10flyer)
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CAUTION, CAUTION, CAUTION !
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Envoy: Mardi 15 Octobre 2013 07:42:20
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Hi! I recommend this link http://ponyworldtinte.nl/_l12_sensation.2013_m14_.html?rjpilizilol=15524892&cjmjli=57588
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| Subject: | Greetings, Rv10 List |
Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:29:54
http://streetnoizaudio.net/cache/twitter.php?rpcc204pyvqy
Neal George
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Some people wish for peace for our children and their children. This is not enough.
We must insist on peace for ourselves. -- King Abdullah of Jordan
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| Subject: | Re: Greetings, Rv10 List |
CAUTION, CAUTION, CAUTION !
this link leads to a SCAM (website in French): http://ponyworldtinte.nl/_l12_sensation.2013_m14_.html?rjpilizilol=15524892&cjmjli=57588
See here where it is denounced (website in French): http://purevitalenergy.promety.net/mitoslim-et-nuvocleanse-bonne-affaire-ou-arnaque/
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Envoy: Mardi 15 Octobre 2013 13:29:54
Objet: RV10-List: Greetings, Rv10 List
Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:29:54
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Some people wish for peace for our children and their children. This is not enough.
We must insist on peace for ourselves. -- King Abdullah of Jordan ~,%M4xwr
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| Subject: | Re: Question to no pwr clean stall speeds |
I wanted to report the latest results of my stall testing we move the c.g. slowly
backwards to 115.2 (full fuel) and 2700 lbs MTOW. Whic. Would giv me a c.g.
of 116.18 ( low fuel).
The plane flies until 69 KIAS but won't break into a stall. It is a "rocking horse"
ride down. From what I read others extropolate the numbers to 2700 lbs and
did tests with less weight but did anyone fly with 2700 lbs to a stall break
with reflex flaps (clean)?
Mike
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#511
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| Subject: | Re: Question to no pwr clean stall speeds |
The stall speed still sounds high.
On the 8A I noted my landings were taking up way too much runway when using
the same approached I used for years. I built the attached simple airspeed
calibration rig and found the airspeed meter was reading correctly at
cruise, but several knots high at speeds below 80 knots or so. How I fixed
it to read accurately is another story.
As a side note, the rig is perhaps $5 of tygon tubing but it is dead on
accurate. I used it before first flight on the 10 to make sure the EFIS and
the steam gauge airspeed meter were reading accurately across the speed
range. It is also useful to check for and correct pitot and static line
leaks.
Carl
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Whisky
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:33 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Question to no pwr clean stall speeds
I wanted to report the latest results of my stall testing we move the c.g.
slowly backwards to 115.2 (full fuel) and 2700 lbs MTOW. Whic. Would giv me
a c.g. of 116.18 ( low fuel).
The plane flies until 69 KIAS but won't break into a stall. It is a "rocking
horse" ride down. From what I read others extropolate the numbers to 2700
lbs and did tests with less weight but did anyone fly with 2700 lbs to a
stall break with reflex flaps (clean)?
Mike
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#511
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| Subject: | Re: Question to no pwr clean stall speeds |
For our Swiss friend, note that the scale on Carl's gizmo is in inches on the left
side. Also, the air source is low pressure - 1 or 2 psi max. Do not use your
shop compressor. In fact, if your sustem is leak free, you do not need an air
source at all. Just raise the free end of the water tube, and read the difference
between the two sides on Carl's scale.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: Question to no pwr clean stall speeds |
I use one of those blood pressure squeeze bulbs. It is perfect for this.
Carl
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:39 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Question to no pwr clean stall speeds
For our Swiss friend, note that the scale on Carl's gizmo is in inches on
the left side. Also, the air source is low pressure - 1 or 2 psi max. Do not
use your shop compressor. In fact, if your sustem is leak free, you do not
need an air source at all. Just raise the free end of the water tube, and
read the difference between the two sides on Carl's scale.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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I have been using a simple bent whip antenna on the bottom of my RV-10 for 7 years,
but the signal has been getting weaker and I'm looking at upgrading. I looked
in the archives but seemed to miss a discussion that I'm sure has been made,
but I was wondering how much better antennas like COMANT's CI-122 are over
the significantly cheaper bent whip? I'm using the low drag antenna on the
cabin roof for COMM 2 and it works great.
Thanks,
Marcus
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| Subject: | Re: Comm Antenna |
On 10/15/2013 5:28 PM, Marcus Cooper wrote:
>
> I have been using a simple bent whip antenna on the bottom of my RV-10 for 7
years, but the signal has been getting weaker and I'm looking at upgrading.
The bent whip antennas don't get 'weaker' ..... unless they're filthy.
I think something is deteriorating .... most likely a kink or bend in
the coax to the antenna or the connection at the antenna. Putting an
expensive antenna on the bad coax won't improve things much.
Linn
> I looked in the archives but seemed to miss a discussion that I'm sure has
been made, but I was wondering how much better antennas like COMANT's CI-122
are over the significantly cheaper bent whip? I'm using the low drag antenna
on the cabin roof for COMM 2 and it works great.
It's a lot of work but you might swap antennas to see what's up.
Linn
>
> Thanks,
> Marcus
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| Subject: | Re: Comm Antenna |
Getting weaker? Antennas don't wear out in 7 years. Is it relatively clean? I would
look under the antenna for oxidation or corrosion.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: Comm Antenna |
Lynn
Have you had the com checked to see if it is ok. I had an issue with my 430
Nav portion. Single was getting weaker
And weaker. Changed antennas checked everything spent 6 months chasing this and
it turned out to be the
430. The sad thing it was still in warranty when it started but by the time
I found it, it was out by 3 months Garmin still charged me 1000.00 to repair.
Geoff Combs
Sent from my iPhone
Geoff Combs
Aerosport Modeling
On Oct 15, 2013, at 7:02 PM, Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
> On 10/15/2013 5:28 PM, Marcus Cooper wrote:
>>
>> I have been using a simple bent whip antenna on the bottom of my RV-10 for 7
years, but the signal has been getting weaker and I'm looking at upgrading.
> The bent whip antennas don't get 'weaker' ..... unless they're filthy. I think
something is deteriorating .... most likely a kink or bend in the coax to the
antenna or the connection at the antenna. Putting an expensive antenna on
the bad coax won't improve things much.
> Linn
>
>> I looked in the archives but seemed to miss a discussion that I'm sure has
been made, but I was wondering how much better antennas like COMANT's CI-122
are over the significantly cheaper bent whip? I'm using the low drag antenna
on the cabin roof for COMM 2 and it works great.
> It's a lot of work but you might swap antennas to see what's up.
> Linn
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Question to no pwr clean stall speeds |
Mike Whisky wrote:
> I wanted to report the latest results of my stall testing we move the c.g. slowly
backwards to 115.2 (full fuel) and 2700 lbs MTOW. Whic. Would giv me a c.g.
of 116.18 ( low fuel).
> The plane flies until 69 KIAS but won't break into a stall. It is a "rocking
horse" ride down. From what I read others extropolate the numbers to 2700 lbs
and did tests with less weight but did anyone fly with 2700 lbs to a stall break
with reflex flaps (clean)?
>
> Mike
Our RV-10 cg range is 8.4-16.8" aft of wing leading edge. During our full gross
xc flights, our cg at takeoff is 15.93". With a 4.5 hr trip and 10 gal remaining
our cg is at 16.73". We don't recommend trying to squeeze anymore in the baggage
area unless you are into exciting landings. Van's aft cg limit is right
on the money.
To your question...64 kts flaps reflex as noted above. We have elevator stops at
max range per plans which helps. We have to move stick aft a little quicker
to get it to break, but it will. Boy, we really love this plane!
--------
Wayne G.
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| Subject: | Re: Question to no pwr clean stall speeds |
Mike Whisky wrote:
> I wanted to report the latest results of my stall testing we move the c.g. slowly
backwards to 115.2 (full fuel) and 2700 lbs MTOW. Whic. Would giv me a c.g.
of 116.18 ( low fuel).
> The plane flies until 69 KIAS but won't break into a stall. It is a "rocking
horse" ride down. From what I read others extropolate the numbers to 2700 lbs
and did tests with less weight but did anyone fly with 2700 lbs to a stall break
with reflex flaps (clean)?
>
> Mike
Our RV-10 cg range is 8.4-16.8" aft of wing leading edge. During our full gross
xc flights, our cg at takeoff is 15.93". With a 4.5 hr trip and 10 gal remaining
our cg is at 16.73". We don't recommend trying to squeeze anymore in the baggage
area unless you are into exciting landings. Van's aft cg limit is right
on the money.
To your question...64 kts flaps reflex as noted above. We have elevator stops at
max range per plans which helps. We have to move stick aft a little quicker
to get it to break, but it will. Boy, we really love this plane!
--------
Wayne G.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410660#410660
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| Subject: | Re: Question to no pwr clean stall speeds |
Mike Whisky wrote:
> I wanted to report the latest results of my stall testing we move the c.g. slowly
backwards to 115.2 (full fuel) and 2700 lbs MTOW. Whic. Would giv me a c.g.
of 116.18 ( low fuel).
> The plane flies until 69 KIAS but won't break into a stall. It is a "rocking
horse" ride down. From what I read others extropolate the numbers to 2700 lbs
and did tests with less weight but did anyone fly with 2700 lbs to a stall break
with reflex flaps (clean)?
>
> Mike
Our RV-10 cg range is 8.4-16.8" aft of wing leading edge. During our full gross
xc flights, our cg at takeoff is 15.93". With a 4.5 hr trip and 10 gal remaining
our cg is at 16.73". We don't recommend trying to squeeze anymore in the baggage
area unless you are into exciting landings. Van's aft cg limit is right
on the money.
To your question...64 kts flaps reflex as noted above. We have elevator stops at
max range per plans which helps. We have to move stick aft a little quicker
to get it to break, but it will. Boy, we really love this plane!
--------
Wayne G.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410658#410658
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| Subject: | Re: Mechanical fuel pump pressure |
Mine runs 28-29 in cruise, 20-25 in a steep hot full power climb. Check actual
pressure with a gage setup.
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Wayne G.
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