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0. 12:17 AM - Network Issues At Matronics Last Few Days... (Matt Dralle)
1. 02:47 PM - Fw: AeroElectric-List: matronics servers have the flu (Kelly McMullen)
2. 04:57 PM - Extra fuel tank (Carlos Trigo)
3. 05:07 PM - Re: Extra fuel tank (David Leikam)
4. 05:25 PM - Re: Extra fuel tank (Jesse Saint)
5. 06:08 PM - Re: Extra fuel tank (Kelly McMullen)
6. 06:12 PM - Front seats value (Kelly McMullen)
7. 06:23 PM - Re: Front seats value (mds4878)
8. 06:25 PM - Re: Front seats value (Dave Saylor)
9. 06:30 PM - Re: Re: Front seats value (Pascal)
10. 06:42 PM - Re: Re: Front seats value (Kelly McMullen)
11. 06:51 PM - Re: Extra fuel tank (Jesse Saint)
12. 07:00 PM - Re: Front seats value (mds4878)
13. 07:05 PM - Re: Re: Front seats value (Kelly McMullen)
14. 07:08 PM - Re: Front seats value (mds4878)
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Subject: | Network Issues At Matronics Last Few Days... |
Dear Listers,
Starting sometime on Friday November 1st, my Internet Service Provider (ISP) began "upgrading" their Domain Name Servers (DNS). DNS servers allow the resolution of computer names such as "www.matronics.com" to real addresses such as 64.81.74.3. This also impacts email delivery as well, since there is another layer of resolution that applies to email names.
Because of this upgrade on the part of my ISP, DNS service started getting unreliable
around Friday sometime, but I didn't notice it until sometime on Saturday.
When I used a tool called "nslookup" to test the resolution of name-to-address,
about 50-75% of the time my ISP's servers would response with an "SERVFAIL"
indicating that they didn't know the answer. I opened a ticket with the
ISP on Saturday, and by Sunday afternoon I had no feedback on the ticket so I
called in to support. "We upgrading the DNS servers, and it should back by Sunday
at 5pm." 5pm came and went with no resolution.
Well, long story short by Tuesday morning things were still not fixed and in fact
much worse. So, I opted to move all my DNS service to a different service
provider. I have a lot of DNS entries, so it took a while to get everything moved
over. It generally takes about 24 hours for a change like that to fully
propagate across the Internet which would be Wednesday morning sometime. I've
noticed that the Matronics web server traffic is picking up again, so many sites
have already propagated the new information.
I really should have just moved the DNS on Saturday when I first noticed the troubles,
but with stuff like this, you just keep believing that it gonna be fixed
any minute now.... And, in fact, that's what my ISP kept telling me...
Its always a giant bummer when stuff like this happens and particularly during
the Fund Raiser. I apologize to anyone that has tried to make a Contribution
in the last few days and had issues or was simply unable to connect. By the time
you read this email, the DNS should be fully propagated, and I ask that you
please try again.
The Contribution web site URL is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you for your kind consideration and patience,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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Subject: | Fwd: AeroElectric-List: matronics servers have the flu |
FYI
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: AeroElectric-List: matronics servers have the flu
From: Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
It seems that the ISP that hosts Matt's Internet portal
did something dumb with their domain name servers. My
access to any features on matronics have been sketchy
at best. Matt's not getting very good answers from
the so-called 'service reps' . . .
I think we're in good hands . . . Matt's trying
to chase the rats out of the woodpile.
Bob . . .
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Guys
My partner insists in installing an extra fuel tank in the -10.
In fact he has a point because he intends to use the airplane in Africa, where
it is very difficult to find AvGas in vast extensions of the territory.
Does anybody know if any builder has already installed an extra fuel tank (in the
baggage compartment or anywhere else), or if there is any aftermarket kit?
Regards
Carlos
Enviado do meu iPhone
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Subject: | Re: Extra fuel tank |
I have seen at least one -10 with two standard tanks per wing.
Their is an aftermarket tip tank kit but I don't have the info.
Dave Leikam
On Nov 6, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Carlos Trigo <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
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> Guys
>
> My partner insists in installing an extra fuel tank in the -10.
> In fact he has a point because he intends to use the airplane in Africa, where
it is very difficult to find AvGas in vast extensions of the territory.
>
> Does anybody know if any builder has already installed an extra fuel tank (in
the baggage compartment or anywhere else), or if there is any aftermarket kit?
>
> Regards
> Carlos
>
> Enviado do meu iPhone
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Subject: | Re: Extra fuel tank |
We have installed an additional half tank outboard of the stock tanks for a total
of 90 gallons on a number of planes. The tanks are separate and you transfer
into the mains. It's a big job, but it works well.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 6, 2013, at 8:07 PM, David Leikam <arplnplt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I have seen at least one -10 with two standard tanks per wing.
> Their is an aftermarket tip tank kit but I don't have the info.
>
> Dave Leikam
>
>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Carlos Trigo <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Guys
>>
>> My partner insists in installing an extra fuel tank in the -10.
>> In fact he has a point because he intends to use the airplane in Africa, where
it is very difficult to find AvGas in vast extensions of the territory.
>>
>> Does anybody know if any builder has already installed an extra fuel tank (in
the baggage compartment or anywhere else), or if there is any aftermarket kit?
>>
>> Regards
>> Carlos
>>
>> Enviado do meu iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Subject: | Re: Extra fuel tank |
I recall some one offered a 7.5 gal tank to go in each wing tip to achieve
75 gal, or 1 extra hour endurance.
Many aircraft have added baggage compartment tanks, either ridgid or
bladder, that could be teed into one of the main tanks with a wobble pump
or electric pump.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote:
>
> We have installed an additional half tank outboard of the stock tanks for
> a total of 90 gallons on a number of planes. The tanks are separate and you
> transfer into the mains. It's a big job, but it works well.
>
> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> www.mavericklsa.com
> C: 352-427-0285
> O: 352-465-4545
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 6, 2013, at 8:07 PM, David Leikam <arplnplt@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have seen at least one -10 with two standard tanks per wing.
> > Their is an aftermarket tip tank kit but I don't have the info.
> >
> > Dave Leikam
> >
> >> On Nov 6, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Carlos Trigo <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Guys
> >>
> >> My partner insists in installing an extra fuel tank in the -10.
> >> In fact he has a point because he intends to use the airplane in
> Africa, where it is very difficult to find AvGas in vast extensions of the
> territory.
> >>
> >> Does anybody know if any builder has already installed an extra fuel
> tank (in the baggage compartment or anywhere else), or if there is any
> aftermarket kit?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Carlos
> >>
> >> Enviado do meu iPhone
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> >
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Subject: | Front seats value |
I need to ship my front seats off for upholstery. Given the nature of
shipping, I would like to insure them for something near replacement cost
for the seat frames and conforfoam cushions.
I cannot find any listing on "the List" to give a price, and the plans
don't have a part number. Anyone have what Van's would charge (or is it
Oregon Aero?) to replace the seats if the shipping company lost them or put
a fork lift through the box?
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Subject: | Re: Front seats value |
I priced the seats one year ago and they were 4,400.00
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RV-10 #40447
Fuselage almost done.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=412306#412306
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Subject: | Re: Front seats value |
I've tried to get a quote for the seats so we could use them in other
planes. The short answer is they're only available to Vans and Vans
doesn't sell the seats outright. I imagine you could get replacements if
they were damaged, but it wouldn't be a straightforward order.
During my efforts I did glean the cost for a pair of seats...$15,000.
Three zeros. Why the seats are more than the finish kit is beyond me.
That price was from Oregon Aero before they told me they weren't actually
for sale.
Get a quote from Vans before you insure them. Or take them to upholstery
yourself!
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
> I need to ship my front seats off for upholstery. Given the nature of
> shipping, I would like to insure them for something near replacement cost
> for the seat frames and conforfoam cushions.
> I cannot find any listing on "the List" to give a price, and the plans
> don't have a part number. Anyone have what Van's would charge (or is it
> Oregon Aero?) to replace the seats if the shipping company lost them or put
> a fork lift through the box?
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Front seats value |
each, which is less than what I was told they were by Oregon Aero.
-----Original Message-----
From: mds4878
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 6:23 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Front seats value
I priced the seats one year ago and they were 4,400.00
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RV-10 #40447
Fuselage almost done.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=412306#412306
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Subject: | Re: Front seats value |
Finish kit is $15,000 and change now. Includes main gear, engine mount,
cowling, wheel pants and fairings, among other items. So it sounds like 2/3
the cost is the front seats. That seems hugely out of line for cushions
that are worth maybe $500 and aluminum frame with canvass seat bottom. That
will definitely put insurance cost above shipping cost.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Pascal <rv10flyer@live.com> wrote:
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> each, which is less than what I was told they were by Oregon Aero.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: mds4878 Sent: Wednesday, November 06,
> 2013 6:23 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Re: Front
> seats value
>
> I priced the seats one year ago and they were 4,400.00
>
> --------
> RV-10 #40447
> Fuselage almost done.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=412306#412306
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Extra fuel tank |
Safeair1, I think, has the tip tanks.
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 6, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I recall some one offered a 7.5 gal tank to go in each wing tip to achieve
75 gal, or 1 extra hour endurance.
> Many aircraft have added baggage compartment tanks, either ridgid or bladd
er, that could be teed into one of the main tanks with a wobble pump or elec
tric pump.
>
>
>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wro
te:
>>
>> We have installed an additional half tank outboard of the stock tanks for
a total of 90 gallons on a number of planes. The tanks are separate and you
transfer into the mains. It's a big job, but it works well.
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>> I-TEC, Inc.
>> jesse@itecusa.org
>> www.itecusa.org
>> www.mavericklsa.com
>> C: 352-427-0285
>> O: 352-465-4545
>> F: 815-377-3694
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Nov 6, 2013, at 8:07 PM, David Leikam <arplnplt@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > I have seen at least one -10 with two standard tanks per wing.
>> > Their is an aftermarket tip tank kit but I don't have the info.
>> >
>> > Dave Leikam
>> >
>> >> On Nov 6, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Carlos Trigo <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote
:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Guys
>> >>
>> >> My partner insists in installing an extra fuel tank in the -10.
>> >> In fact he has a point because he intends to use the airplane in Afric
a, where it is very difficult to find AvGas in vast extensions of the territ
ory.
>> >>
>> >> Does anybody know if any builder has already installed an extra fuel t
ank (in the baggage compartment or anywhere else), or if there is any afterm
arket kit?
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> Carlos
>> >>
>> >> Enviado do meu iPhone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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Subject: | Re: Front seats value |
The reason why I got a price for seats was that I have been buying my finish kit
as I needed parts of it and I need the seats soon. I called about one year ago
and asked how much and it took about a day or so and they called me back with
4,400.00 plus shipping for the pair with foam. I did have to provide my kit
number.
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RV-10 #40447
Fuselage almost done.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=412312#412312
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Subject: | Re: Front seats value |
Thank you. Very helpful.
Kelly
40866, forever finishing
On 11/6/2013 8:00 PM, mds4878 wrote:
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> The reason why I got a price for seats was that I have been buying my finish
kit as I needed parts of it and I need the seats soon. I called about one year
ago and asked how much and it took about a day or so and they called me back
with 4,400.00 plus shipping for the pair with foam. I did have to provide my kit
number.
>
> --------
> RV-10 #40447
> Fuselage almost done.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=412312#412312
>
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Subject: | Re: Front seats value |
I talked to Oregon Aero also about the seats and the only way they could sell them
to me was as certified models that are used in other aircraft. He told me
the same seat is used in three other aircraft but He could not sell a "RV10" seat
because of the agreement with Van's.
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RV-10 #40447
Fuselage almost done.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=412313#412313
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