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1. 07:52 AM - Is there more than one location to install an oil temp probe (Mike Whisky)
2. 12:48 PM - Re: Is there more than one location to install an oil temp probe (Kelly McMullen)
3. 01:24 PM - Re: Builders Insurance (Bob Turner)
4. 01:59 PM - Re: Re: Builders Insurance (Sean Stephens)
5. 02:29 PM - Re: Builders Insurance (Bob Turner)
6. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: Builders Insurance (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
7. 04:49 PM - Re: Re: Builders Insurance (Kelly McMullen)
8. 05:01 PM - Re: Re: Builders Insurance (Ben)
9. 05:27 PM - Re: Builders Insurance (Bob Turner)
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| Subject: | Is there more than one location to install an oil temp probe |
Hi,
I am thinking to install the oil temp controller from experimentalgoodies.com,
I am not sure if there is a second port on the TMX-IO-540 to install an oil temp
probe. I don't have my manual with me and won't be in the hangar for a couple
of days so I 'd appreciate if someone could help.
Thanks
Mike
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#511
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| Subject: | Re: Is there more than one location to install an oil temp |
probe
Yes. There are plugs at the front of the engine that are used during
overhaul to clean the oil galleys. You can remove one (very carefully) with
an appropriately sized allen socket.
It is worth having the right size that you can put a 3/8s ratchet wrench
on. You may have to also apply some heat with a propane torch in that area
to loosen whatever sealant was used on the plug. They are difficult to get
loose, and you darn sure do not want to round off the flats on the allen
plug.
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Mike Whisky <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> wrote:
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> Hi,
> I am thinking to install the oil temp controller from
> experimentalgoodies.com, I am not sure if there is a second port on the
> TMX-IO-540 to install an oil temp probe. I don't have my manual with me and
> won't be in the hangar for a couple of days so I 'd appreciate if someone
> could help.
>
> Thanks
> Mike
>
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> #511
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| Subject: | Re: Builders Insurance |
"Builders' Insurance" remains a mystery to me. When I was building the cost of
the Builders' Insurance was 2/3 what I pay now for a flying airplane, including
liability as well as hull. Do insurance companies think that 2/3 of the risk
happens in the hangar?
It could be that (1) theft is easier when avionics, and maybe engines, are in nice
boxes instead of mounted; or (2) last year saw some low cost carriers drop
out of the -10 market. Maybe there now is no competition?
Bob
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: Builders Insurance |
Where are you guys getting builder's insurance? I got mine through
EAA. I don't have "real" insurance yet, but I know the $$ I am paying
for builder's insurance is not going to even be 1/3 of what it will be.
I think I am paying around $800/yr for builder's insurance.
-Sean #40303 (putting everything back on)
On 11/16/13, 3:24 PM, Bob Turner wrote:
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> "Builders' Insurance" remains a mystery to me. When I was building the cost of
the Builders' Insurance was 2/3 what I pay now for a flying airplane, including
liability as well as hull. Do insurance companies think that 2/3 of the risk
happens in the hangar?
> It could be that (1) theft is easier when avionics, and maybe engines, are in
nice boxes instead of mounted; or (2) last year saw some low cost carriers drop
out of the -10 market. Maybe there now is no competition?
>
> Bob
>
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> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413215#413215
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| Subject: | Re: Builders Insurance |
I also got mine thru EAA which really means the Falcon agency, and I forget the
actual carrier. It cost 1% of the declared value, which pushed it well into 4
figures by the time I had virtually all the pieces in the hangar. I think it
was $1400, for $140,000 coverage. I paid for it mostly because it covered the
15 mile trip to the airport from my garage. Maybe that was where all the risk
was, I do not know.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: Builders Insurance |
I self insured until the big move to the airport. That being said my work shop
is 50' from my house and is well lite, secured, and alarmed. It was still a relief
when I purchased full coverage insurance a few days before I moved it to
the hanger.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:29:21 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Builders Insurance
I also got mine thru EAA which really means the Falcon agency, and I forget the
actual carrier. It cost 1% of the declared value, which pushed it well into 4
figures by the time I had virtually all the pieces in the hangar. I think it
was $1400, for $140,000 coverage. I paid for it mostly because it covered the
15 mile trip to the airport from my garage. Maybe that was where all the risk
was, I do not know.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: Builders Insurance |
I guess I have a bit different situation. I have done all of my building
at my hangar, at a public airport, which has security gates, police
patrol, well lit, with well maintained sprinkler system. I only bought
insurance once I had over $120K into the project. My coverage through
NationAir and Global last year was $600, and for same exact coverage and
stated value, this year, they want $900. I only pay around $1400 for my
retractable gear Mooney for full coverage in flight etc. Granted the
hull value is much less, but the exposure to damage is much higher.
On 11/16/2013 4:19 PM, davidsoutpost@comcast.net wrote:
> I self insured until the big move to the airport. That being said my
> work shop is 50' from my house and is well lite, secured, and
> alarmed. It was still a relief when I purchased full coverage
> insurance a few days before I moved it to the hanger.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
> *To: *rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:29:21 PM
> *Subject: *RV10-List: Re: Builders Insurance
>
>
> I also got mine thru EAA which really means the Falcon agency, and I
> forget the actual carrier. It cost 1% of the declared value, which
> pushed it well into 4 figures by the time I had virtually all the
> pieces in the hangar. I think it was $1400, for $140,000 coverage. I
> paid for it mostly because it covered the 15 mile trip to the airport
> from my garage. Maybe that was where all the risk was, I do not know.
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413217#413217
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> *
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| Subject: | Re: Builders Insurance |
To continue on with that thought......
Just how much exposure does an insurance company really have with a buil
ders loss... I have been in this experimental sector for years I persona
lly cannot count even one person who had a claim during the building pro
cess. It would be nice to actually see documentation that reflects the l
evel of premiums charged....... Is there any out there who has known of
a legit claim against an insurance carrier..???
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Builders Insurance
"Builders' Insurance" remains a mystery to me. When I was building the c
ost of the Builders' Insurance was 2/3 what I pay now for a flying airpl
ane, including liability as well as hull. Do insurance companies think t
hat 2/3 of the risk happens in the hangar?
It could be that (1) theft is easier when avionics, and maybe engines, a
re in nice boxes instead of mounted; or (2) last year saw some low cost
carriers drop out of the -10 market. Maybe there now is no competition?
Bob
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413215#413215
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| Subject: | Re: Builders Insurance |
So, 3 years ago I would have been paying $1200, so you're still ahead. I think
two years ago the premiums went from 1% to 0.5%; maybe they decided the reduction
was too much.
One issue is that the market is so small, overhead costs get amortized over relatively
few policies. I'll bet they can't generate a piece of paper for less than
$100.
Similar issue: What do you think the insurance companies want to cover me while
giving transition training (I have a LODA)? How about a 50% premium increase,
for an estimated 20 hours of dual given per year? The risk/cost ratio seems all
out of wack to me.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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