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0. 12:30 AM - Value of the List... (Matt Dralle)
1. 12:09 PM - Paint question (woxofswa)
2. 12:19 PM - Re: Paint question (Danny Riggs)
3. 12:36 PM - Re: Paint question (Bob Leffler)
4. 12:46 PM - Re: Paint question (Tcwtech)
5. 12:46 PM - Re: Paint question (Carl Froehlich)
6. 01:36 PM - Re: Paint question (woxofswa)
7. 02:18 PM - Re: life of the Odyssey (bob88)
8. 03:04 PM - Re: life of the Odyssey (bill.peyton)
9. 03:50 PM - Re: Re: life of the Odyssey (Don McDonald)
10. 03:52 PM - Re: Paint question (Jim Berry)
11. 04:10 PM - Re: Re: life of the Odyssey (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
12. 04:42 PM - Re: Re: life of the Odyssey (Carl Froehlich)
13. 07:10 PM - Re: Re: life of the Odyssey (Rick Lark)
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| Subject: | Value of the List... |
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My airplane will be complete by end of year, just unassembled. I plan to take it
to the paint shop in pieces, then do final assembly of the painted parts.
The only potential fly in the ointment I see so far are the wing tips. I've had
the wings on for the fairing work, but they are off now. I know it is best
to match the tips to rigged ailerons. Are there serious potential paint issues
of attaching the tips after paint? Any other considerations? I'm really hoping
to not have to assemble everything and tear it down again.
Thanks in advance.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. FWF complete.
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That is what I did. Only downside (if you call it that) is that the screws
holding it in aren't painted on the plane. Otherwise=2C no problem. I have
heard other opinions and I've come to the conclusion it's a personal choice
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> Subject: RV10-List: Paint question
> From: woxof@aol.com
> Date: Wed=2C 20 Nov 2013 12:09:08 -0800
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
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> My airplane will be complete by end of year=2C just unassembled. I plan t
o take it to the paint shop in pieces=2C then do final assembly of the pain
ted parts.
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> The only potential fly in the ointment I see so far are the wing tips. I
've had the wings on for the fairing work=2C but they are off now. I know
it is best to match the tips to rigged ailerons. Are there serious potenti
al paint issues of attaching the tips after paint? Any other consideration
s? I'm really hoping to not have to assemble everything and tear it down a
gain.
> Thanks in advance.
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> Mesa=2C AZ
> Emp completed=2C QB wings completed=2C legacy build fuse on gear. FWF co
mplete.
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> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Paint question |
Only if you got one of the wing tips whose shape is distorted. Then you have to
cut and re-align the tip, which would screw up your paint job.
I did the same as you are planning, but I rigged the ailerons before taking to
paint, then again during final assembly. Even doing this, I've got one tip that
ended up being off slightly.
Not a big deal if your wings are still on in your shop. As you mentioned, a real
PITA if you have to reassemble everything.
The other option is to delay painting the tips until you get the wings back on
after paint.
Bob
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 20, 2013, at 3:09 PM, "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com> wrote:
My airplane will be complete by end of year, just unassembled. I plan to take it
to the paint shop in pieces, then do final assembly of the painted parts.
The only potential fly in the ointment I see so far are the wing tips. I've had
the wings on for the fairing work, but they are off now. I know it is best
to match the tips to rigged ailerons. Are there serious potential paint issues
of attaching the tips after paint? Any other considerations? I'm really hoping
to not have to assemble everything and tear it down again.
Thanks in advance.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. FWF complete.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413599#413599
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| Subject: | Re: Paint question |
I painted everything separately. I chose to use stainless steel screws ever
ywhere for fairings and the fuel tanks. I've never been satisfied with the
look of painted screws after a few years in service. So I'm real pleased w
ith the result of painting the airplane in pieces and doing final assembly a
fterwards. Of course I did have all the parts together for rigging of wi
ngs/flaps and ailerons unpainted- one time.
Bob Newman
N541RV.
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On Nov 20, 2013, at 3:18 PM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com> wrote:
> That is what I did. Only downside (if you call it that) is that the screws
holding it in aren't painted on the plane. Otherwise, no problem. I have he
ard other opinions and I've come to the conclusion it's a personal choice.
>
> > Subject: RV10-List: Paint question
> > From: woxof@aol.com
> > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:09:08 -0800
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
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> > My airplane will be complete by end of year, just unassembled. I plan to
take it to the paint shop in pieces, then do final assembly of the painted p
arts.
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> > The only potential fly in the ointment I see so far are the wing tips. I
've had the wings on for the fairing work, but they are off now. I know it i
s best to match the tips to rigged ailerons. Are there serious potential pa
int issues of attaching the tips after paint? Any other considerations? I'm r
eally hoping to not have to assemble everything and tear it down again.
> > Thanks in advance.
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> > Mesa, AZ
> > Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. FWF comple
te.
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> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413599#413599
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Don't do it. You risk messing up an expensive paint job.
Fit up the wings, flaps, ailerons and wing tips before paint. A 1/4"
wingtip trailing edge offset will totally screw up your trim. It is
impossible to get the wing tips on correctly unless you work from the
fuselage out - flaps, then ailerons, then wingtips. Before you start
drilling and clekoing the tips, the trailing edge of the wing tips can be
moved up or down over an inch. There is no way to get this right unless you
have the aileron in exactly the right rig to align the trailing edges.
After you are really sure you don't have any twist in your flaps, spend a
lot of time measuring aileron rigging every which way from Tuesday. This
includes careful measurement of aileron height both at the inboard and
outboard mounts. Most RVs have a slight height difference between ailerons.
Fix this first, then work the linkage lengths on rigging. After all that
you are ready to rig the wingtips.
Ask any RV builder that chased a heavy wing - aileron height tends to be the
last thing they look at but the most common cause (assuming no gross linkage
issues).
Carl
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of woxofswa
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:09 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Paint question
My airplane will be complete by end of year, just unassembled. I plan to
take it to the paint shop in pieces, then do final assembly of the painted
parts.
The only potential fly in the ointment I see so far are the wing tips. I've
had the wings on for the fairing work, but they are off now. I know it is
best to match the tips to rigged ailerons. Are there serious potential
paint issues of attaching the tips after paint? Any other considerations?
I'm really hoping to not have to assemble everything and tear it down again.
Thanks in advance.
--------
Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. FWF complete.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413599#413599
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| Subject: | Re: Paint question |
Thanks for the input. I should have mentioned that the plan is to paint just the
base coat before assembly and the accents afterwards.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. FWF complete.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413609#413609
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| Subject: | Re: life of the Odyssey |
How did you mount the two 680s...just looking at dimentions, I don't thinbk they
will sit side by side in the stock battery tray.
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| Subject: | Re: life of the Odyssey |
Bob,
I am not sure if you are addressing me, but I do not have two PC680's. I have
a PC925L in the main tray, which will fit in the standard mount without modification,
and a PC680 in a battery box supplied by Odyssey. The PC680 second battery
is mounted on a shelf next to the existing tray.
Bill
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WA0SYV
Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: life of the Odyssey |
Really easy to modify the tray.... I originally had 2 ea 680's, but just modified
it a second time to host a 925 and a 680.
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| Subject: | Re: Paint question |
I agree with Carl re rigging the flaps, ailerons and wing tips, but there is no
reason that the wings need to be mounted to the fuselage; in fact I think it
is easier to do all of that with the wings in a rack, leading edge down. No crawling
around under the wings, fighting gravity to keep the flaps against the
stops, etc.
Jim Berry
RV-10
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| Subject: | Re: life of the Odyssey |
Here is how I did mine:
http://s403.photobucket.com/user/dclifford01/media/RV10/IMG_0006.jpg.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "bob88" <marty.crooks@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:18:15 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: life of the Odyssey
How did you mount the two 680s...just looking at dimentions, I don't thinbk they
will sit side by side in the stock battery tray.
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| Subject: | Re: life of the Odyssey |
I used two PC-625s and modified the mount. The hold down bolts remain in
the same place. I find the 625s (17ah, 200CCA and 15 lb) a better form
factor to work with than the PC-680s (16ah, 170CCA and 16lbs).
Carl
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob88
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:18 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: life of the Odyssey
How did you mount the two 680s...just looking at dimentions, I don't thinbk
they will sit side by side in the stock battery tray.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413612#413612
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| Subject: | Re: life of the Odyssey |
Hey Don, why the change back to the 925 and 680 combo?
Thx, Rick
#40956
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>wrote:
> Really easy to modify the tray.... I originally had 2 ea 680's, but just
> modified it a second time to host a 925 and a 680.
>
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> * From: * bill.peyton <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net>;
> * To: * <rv10-list@matronics.com>;
> * Subject: * RV10-List: Re: life of the Odyssey
> * Sent: * Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:03:56 PM
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