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0. 12:21 AM - Please Make A Contribution Today... (Matt Dralle)
1. 10:06 AM - Seat question (woxofswa)
2. 10:41 AM - Re: Seat question (Bob Leffler)
3. 10:42 AM - Re: Seat question (Sean Stephens)
4. 10:49 AM - Re: Seat question (Jim Berry)
5. 11:27 AM - Re: Re: Seat question (Rene Felker)
6. 11:45 AM - Re: Seat question (Bill Watson)
7. 12:55 PM - Re: Re: Seat question (Kelly McMullen)
8. 01:10 PM - Re: Re: Seat question (Bob Leffler)
9. 01:20 PM - Re: Re: Seat question (William Greenley)
10. 05:50 PM - Wheel grease seal part number (Eric_Kallio)
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I just got my interior kit from Abby at Flightline and I am quite pleased.
In attaching the seat bottom cushion it dawned on me that it will be a PITA to
attach the seat retainer plunger. Unless I'm missing something, you have undo
everything to put the nuts on the inside of the frame. The only solution I've
come up with is to put nut plates on the inside of the frame right below the
"do not alter or modify" sticker. Any ideas?
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. FWF complete.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413796#413796
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| Subject: | Re: Seat question |
I put nut plates on the outside of the black bracket. I then can in install the
bolts from the inside of the seat frame.
No more attempting to get a wrench in that small space.
It looks ugly, but since it's next to impossible see, nobody will notice but you.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 22, 2013, at 1:05 PM, "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com> wrote:
I just got my interior kit from Abby at Flightline and I am quite pleased.
In attaching the seat bottom cushion it dawned on me that it will be a PITA to
attach the seat retainer plunger. Unless I'm missing something, you have undo
everything to put the nuts on the inside of the frame. The only solution I've
come up with is to put nut plates on the inside of the frame right below the
"do not alter or modify" sticker. Any ideas?
--------
Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. FWF complete.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413796#413796
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| Subject: | Re: Seat question |
I "altered or modified" for the same reasons you mentioned. :)
See here - http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephensville/9684701079/
On 11/22/13, 12:05 PM, woxofswa wrote:
>
> I just got my interior kit from Abby at Flightline and I am quite pleased.
>
> In attaching the seat bottom cushion it dawned on me that it will be a PITA to
attach the seat retainer plunger. Unless I'm missing something, you have undo
everything to put the nuts on the inside of the frame. The only solution I've
come up with is to put nut plates on the inside of the frame right below the
"do not alter or modify" sticker. Any ideas?
>
> --------
> Myron Nelson
> Mesa, AZ
> Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. FWF complete.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413796#413796
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Seat question |
Myron,
Mount the seat plunger before installing the bottom cushion. I did install nutplates
and they work great. Some have also threaded the side rail, doing away with
the need for any type of nuts. Probably not as strong that way.
Jim Berry
RV-10
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413802#413802
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| Subject: | Re: Seat question |
I have a removable seat cushion and nut plates on the plunger. Works great.
I also have the IFLYRV10 seat slide lever. Works great. www.iflyrv10.com
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Berry
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 11:47 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Seat question
Myron,
Mount the seat plunger before installing the bottom cushion. I did install
nutplates and they work great. Some have also threaded the side rail, doing
away with the need for any type of nuts. Probably not as strong that way.
Jim Berry
RV-10
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413802#413802
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| Subject: | Re: Seat question |
Yep, Flightline does a nice job and it is a very nice seat.
Yes, the plunger is a bit of pain to remove/install. Yes, you have to
half lift out the bottom cushion to get at it (not everything) But
having done it about a half a dozen times over 2 years of flying, it's
really not that bad. In my opinion, not worth doing the whole nutplate
thing.
BTW, if you put the nutplates on the plunger, you still have to lift out
the cushion, so the inside rail is where you want the nutplates I would
suppose. However, with the Flight line side panels, getting a bolt
turned and out gets tough. Not sure there is enough clearance to get a
ratchet of any normal kind on it. Without the nutplates, I put an open
end wrench on the plunger side and a ratchet on the seat side and it all
works pretty easily.
Unlike during the build, when flying you will probably only remove the
seat for 1) Condition Inspections (to get under the seat) and 2) to get
in the center tunnel (for the Condition Inspection). So consider that
against the amount of work you may want to do.
However, what is a bigger PITA, especially in a carpeted interior, is
having to remove the flap actuator/horn covers in order to remove the seats.
Recently, just after my condition inspection, I had to get back in the
center tunnel and that required removing the seats again. Having to
remove the rear seats, lift the carpet, unscrew the two covers and
otherwise trash the interior just to remove the two seats IS a PITA.
And this time I didn't even mind the plunger removal/install.
The two different fixes for that has been posted and documented; 1)
grind away a fraction of the seat rail or 2) cut back the Delrin/Nylon
seat slides in the seat. Number 2 is what I did and it is definitely
the way to go. I removed exactly 3/8" and beveled the cut at 45deg in
the obvious direction. Works perfectly. Now I can remove the seat by
just removing the plungers and sliding the seat out.
Definitely do the seat slide/rail cutting, especially if you have a
carpeted floor. I wll continue on without nutplates.
Bill "done with the seats for awhile" Watson
On 11/22/2013 1:05 PM, woxofswa wrote:
>
> I just got my interior kit from Abby at Flightline and I am quite pleased.
>
> In attaching the seat bottom cushion it dawned on me that it will be a PITA to
attach the seat retainer plunger. Unless I'm missing something, you have undo
everything to put the nuts on the inside of the frame. The only solution I've
come up with is to put nut plates on the inside of the frame right below the
"do not alter or modify" sticker. Any ideas?
>
> --------
> Myron Nelson
> Mesa, AZ
> Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. FWF complete.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413796#413796
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Seat question |
I don't know if Geoff Combs has advertised it yet, but he has come up
with a very nice lever extension to the front of the seat that gives
easier access and more leverage.
On 11/22/2013 12:27 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
>
> I have a removable seat cushion and nut plates on the plunger. Works great.
> I also have the IFLYRV10 seat slide lever. Works great. www.iflyrv10.com
>
> Rene' Felker
> N423CF
> 801-721-6080
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Berry
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 11:47 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Seat question
>
>
> Myron,
>
> Mount the seat plunger before installing the bottom cushion. I did install
> nutplates and they work great. Some have also threaded the side rail, doing
> away with the need for any type of nuts. Probably not as strong that way.
>
> Jim Berry
> RV-10
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413802#413802
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Seat question |
Yep.......
http://aerosportproducts.com/seat lever.htm
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 22, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote:
I don't know if Geoff Combs has advertised it yet, but he has come up with a very
nice lever extension to the front of the seat that gives easier access and
more leverage.
> On 11/22/2013 12:27 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
>
> I have a removable seat cushion and nut plates on the plunger. Works great.
> I also have the IFLYRV10 seat slide lever. Works great. www.iflyrv10.com
>
> Rene' Felker
> N423CF
> 801-721-6080
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Berry
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 11:47 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Seat question
>
>
> Myron,
>
> Mount the seat plunger before installing the bottom cushion. I did install
> nutplates and they work great. Some have also threaded the side rail, doing
> away with the need for any type of nuts. Probably not as strong that way.
>
> Jim Berry
> RV-10
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413802#413802
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| Subject: | Re: Seat question |
Slight edit, it should be:
http://aerosportproducts.com/seatlever.htm
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Seat question
Yep.......
http://aerosportproducts.com/seat lever.htm
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 22, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote:
I don't know if Geoff Combs has advertised it yet, but he has come up with a
very nice lever extension to the front of the seat that gives easier access
and more leverage.
> On 11/22/2013 12:27 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
>
> I have a removable seat cushion and nut plates on the plunger. Works
great.
> I also have the IFLYRV10 seat slide lever. Works great.
> www.iflyrv10.com
>
> Rene' Felker
> N423CF
> 801-721-6080
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Berry
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 11:47 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Seat question
>
>
> Myron,
>
> Mount the seat plunger before installing the bottom cushion. I did
> install nutplates and they work great. Some have also threaded the
> side rail, doing away with the need for any type of nuts. Probably not as
strong that way.
>
> Jim Berry
> RV-10
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413802#413802
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| Subject: | Wheel grease seal part number |
When changing my main tires I ran into a problem with a part on the wheel. On page
46-3 of my plans ,and on the outboard side of the wheel I had an issue with
what the plans call "molded grease seal". The original is a narrow channel ring
of aluminum. When I ordered what appeared to be the new part from Cleveland
I received a rubberized part that has the same outer diameter, but the inner
diameter is different. My wheels were part of a kit shipped in '08 so perhaps
this has been a change since built, but it just doesn't seem right. Hopefully
I have been able to attach a picture with the original on the left (before I
dropped it and stepped on it, then tried to straighten it) and the new one on
the right. Can anyone either confirm that the new seal is now the correct part,
and if so any idea where to get the felt ring to go with it? Or, if it is not
the right part, has anyone found the correct part number for Cleveland or aircraft
spruce so I can order the correct part?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413834#413834
Attachments:
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