RV10-List Digest Archive

Sat 12/07/13


Total Messages Posted: 8



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:52 AM - Re: Re: rudder trim RV-10 (Linn Walters)
     2. 07:13 AM - Re: Re: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix... (Jim Combs)
     3. 07:14 AM - Re: Re: rudder trim RV-10 (Bill Watson)
     4. 10:20 AM - Re: rudder trim RV-10 (Jim Berry)
     5. 11:53 AM - Re: re bird strike repairs (Kelly McMullen)
     6. 03:24 PM - Re: re bird strike repairs (Jim Combs)
     7. 05:02 PM - Re: re bird strike repairs (Pascal)
     8. 05:03 PM - Re: Re: rudder trim RV-10 (Linn Walters)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:52:42 AM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: rudder trim RV-10
    I've seen rudder trim tabs hacked out of the rudder, riveted bendable tabs, big wedges, small wedges ...... but nobody could tell me 'how much tab do you need?'. So I decided to use small RC servos to implement my aileron and rudder trim which will drive a hinge segment, controllable from the stick. I'll probably leave the installation of the hinges 'till after phase 1. Linn On 12/6/2013 11:44 PM, Pascal wrote: > > I have a tab on the rudder, ball is pretty much centered in cruise > most of the time. You will need something more than nothing. > Pascal > > -----Original Message----- From: bob88 > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 7:21 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Re: rudder trim RV-10 > > > Anyone have experience with the electric rudder trim kit that is > available for the RV10? Is rudder trim important in the 10? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415035#415035 > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >


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    Time: 07:13:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix...
    From: Jim Combs <jiminlexky@gmail.com>
    My aileron trim consists of switching the fuel selector to to heavy side. Works every time and no runaway issues. N312F - flying again after the bird strike repairs! Jim C Sent from my iPhone On Dec 6, 2013, at 12:25 PM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote: > > I think you mis-read, this post is about pitch trim motor speed, not flap speeds. One poster has tied a change in trim speed to his flap position, others are using a speed sensitive device (safe trim). > Yes, the trim speed as it comes from Vans is about right for takeoff and landing but too fast for cruise. > > -------- > Bob Turner > RV-10 QB > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=414984#414984 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:14:52 AM PST US
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: rudder trim RV-10
    No experience here but after 350 hours of flying without rudder trim, I've decided not to install the trim system because it's not worth the effort. I've found that on one hand, I like flying with my feet on the pedals. It may be a holdover from the Maule. It takes very little pressure to adjust for climb, cruise and descent. Flying with the AP engaged, the pedals help keep me engaged. On the other hand, there is enough friction in the system (and so little pressure is required) that I can set the right pedal where I need it and it will stay there in most conditions. I know that people have simply added some friction or even a temporary stop to the cable to help accomplish the same thing. That didn't sound right to me before I flew but makes sense now. Adding a bit of friction to increase the breakout force would have little or no effect on the operating friction and would be sufficient for 'setting the trim' in this particular plane. I do recommend aileron trim and something to slow down the pitch trim and/or limit its effects (I use Safety Trim). Bill On 12/6/2013 10:21 PM, bob88 wrote: > > Anyone have experience with the electric rudder trim kit that is available for the RV10? Is rudder trim important in the 10? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415035#415035 > >


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    Time: 10:20:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: rudder trim RV-10
    From: "Jim Berry" <jimberry@qwest.net>
    [quote="flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com"]nobody could tell me 'how much tab do you need?'. So I decided to use small RC servos to implement my aileron and rudder trim which will drive a hinge segment, controllable from the stick. I'll probably leave the installation of the hinges 'till after phase 1. Linn I use a 12" hinge segment as you describe, and it is more than enough. Very small deflections will maintain trim. I think 6" would do the job; maybe even less. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415069#415069


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    Time: 11:53:21 AM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: re bird strike repairs
    Wow, that was fast! I started on my windshield install shortly after your incident report. Still working on getting the fiberglass fairing finished. On 12/7/2013 8:12 AM, Jim Combs wrote: > - > N312F - flying again after the bird strike repairs! > > Jim C > >


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    Time: 03:24:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: re bird strike repairs
    From: Jim Combs <jiminlexky@gmail.com>
    The second time goes a LOT quicker than the first time! The fear of screwing it up is not there. Its the 3 hours of grinding out the old one that was the worst. Jim C On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: > > Wow, that was fast! I started on my windshield install shortly after your > incident report. Still working on getting the fiberglass fairing finished. > > On 12/7/2013 8:12 AM, Jim Combs wrote: > >> - >> N312F - flying again after the bird strike repairs! >> >> Jim C >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 05:02:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: re bird strike repairs
    From: Pascal <rv10flyer@live.com>
    Hopefully you used the desser/Cee Baileys, That would explain the quick time to repair On Dec 7, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Jim Combs <jiminlexky@gmail.com> wrote: > The second time goes a LOT quicker than the first time! > > The fear of screwing it up is not there. Its the 3 hours of grinding out t he old one that was the worst. > > Jim C > > > On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote : > > Wow, that was fast! I started on my windshield install shortly after your i ncident report. Still working on getting the fiberglass fairing finished. > > On 12/7/2013 8:12 AM, Jim Combs wrote: > - > N312F - flying again after the bird strike repairs! > > Jim C > > > > > ========================= > om" target="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com > ooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com > et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com > et="_blank">www.mypilotstore.com > "_blank">www.mrrace.com > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > le, List Admin. > ========================= > arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========================= > http://forums.matronics.com > ========================= > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== =========


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    Time: 05:03:02 PM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: rudder trim RV-10
    Thanks Jim. I was going to start out with 12" and trim as necessary. I can adjust the speed of the servo easily so I hope to end up with smallest added drag and good trim function. Linn On 12/7/2013 1:20 PM, Jim Berry wrote: > > [quote="flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com"]nobody could tell me 'how much > tab do you need?'. So I decided to use small RC servos to implement my > aileron and rudder trim which will drive a hinge segment, controllable > from the stick. I'll probably leave the installation of the hinges > 'till after phase 1. > Linn > > > I use a 12" hinge segment as you describe, and it is more than enough. Very small deflections will maintain trim. I think 6" would do the job; maybe even less. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415069#415069 > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >




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