---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 12/26/13: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:42 AM - Re: Stick grip (Carlos Trigo) 2. 07:12 AM - Re: Rudder lock possible? (johngoodman) 3. 09:38 AM - Re: Rudder lock possible? (Mike Whisky) 4. 10:14 AM - Re: Rudder lock possible? (Dave Saylor) 5. 11:20 AM - Re: RV-10 ride in California (pilotdds) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:42:54 AM PST US From: "Carlos Trigo" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Stick grip Thanks for your answers. I just ordered the adapter from ACS, and now I confirmed that I should cut the tube in order to avoid the grip to hit the panel, that was what I expected. Thanks Carlos From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: quinta-feira, 26 de Dezembro de 2013 00:09 Subject: Re: RV10-List: Stick grip I think you will find that you should not take off the last 1-1.5" of the vertical part of the stick, so there is something to support the grip. The other aspect is that you need to make an elevator stop in the tail section to limit nose down elevator travel to Van's minimum of around 20 degrees. They allow a tolerance to 25 degrees, but that will have the stick grip hitting the panel no matter how short you make it. Other choice is to have the stick curved section bent to a smaller radius, but you are talking about bending heat treated chrome moly tubing with powder coating on it, so lots of ways to screw that up. On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Carlos Trigo wrote: Guys Those of you who used the Infinity (military type) stick grip, do you remember how much tube did you cut to shorten your stick? And what did you use to adapt the stick grip internal diameter (1") to the stick tube outside diameter (7/8")? Regards Carlos _blank">www.aeroelectric.com .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com ="_blank">www.mypilotstore.com ank">www.mrrace.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List tp://forums.matronics.com -- - sent from the microchip implanted in my forearm ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:23 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rudder lock possible? From: "johngoodman" Geeez, Mike, that's like practicing to bleed.... John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=416215#416215 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:38:29 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rudder lock possible? From: "Mike Whisky" This is part of the test flight regime. I know one would not be in this situation in normal operations however, I still believe that the test flight program is exactly built to understand the aircraft behavior within the design envelope. Mike -------- RV-10 builder (flying, test phase) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=416220#416220 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:14:06 AM PST US From: Dave Saylor Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rudder lock possible? I've seen this in my plane and a customer's -10. He described it to me first. He's a very careful and conscientious pilot. Also lots of acro and formation. We did this straight-and-level at moderate IAS. It's a little surprising at first but so far it's been completely manageable. If you expect it, it's a non-event. Just opposite rudder and it unsticks. I haven't tried it in a climb. Dave Saylor 831-750-0284 CL On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Mike Whisky wrote: > > Hi, > > I posted this at VAF as well but would like to get your opinion as well. > > I did a couple days ago a stability test flight to check how the aircraft > behaves when you apply full rudder in climb, cruise and descent with full > flaps. > > In climb at about 100 kt with wings level I applied slowly more and more > right rudder until I hit the limit. that process took a couple of seconds > about approximately an inch before the limit the rudder got soft and locked > aerodynamically. I immediately gave opposite rudder to go straight again. > > My question now is if other experienced this as well, would it come back > and I just need to wait a bit? I guess one is expected to give full rudder > more swiftly and check the behavior then. If you apply it slowly the > aircraft is at so much slip that the bigger part of the rudder is covered > by the VS near the end of its range and only the counter balance gets the > airstream, just a guess though. > > I replicated this about four times left and right in cruise and climb. > Interesting enough that in landing config at 70kt it did not appear but it > might be that I pressed the rudder more swiftly du to the speed loss when > you yaw the aircraft. > > Regards > Mike > > -------- > RV-10 builder (flying, test phase) > #511 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=416194#416194 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:20:37 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 ride in California From: pilotdds I am in sck could pick him up at lvk this weekend-Jim -----Original Message----- From: Carlos Trigo Sent: Wed, Dec 25, 2013 2:52 pm Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 ride in California Hi My partner in the RV-10 is now in California, till Jan,4th, and is willing to have a ride in an RV-10. Can someone from the San Francisco area, or not very far from there, who co uld take him for a ride, please contact me by email. 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