---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 01/20/14: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:27 AM - Re: Advance flight systems (johngoodman) 2. 07:17 AM - Re: Re: Advance flight systems (Rene Felker) 3. 12:23 PM - Re: Advance flight systems (Bob Turner) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:45 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Advance flight systems From: "johngoodman" Bob Turner wrote: > To answer your last question, I fly in IMC behind a GRT HX, and am happy. > There is no button pushing if hand flying. If controlling an autopilot (Trio in my case) I push a knob to bring up the menu, push a button to arm the approach (choose ILS, LPV, etc), exit menu. All this is done prior to final course intercept. One button push plus add power will start the miss, if needed. > > Another little thing that no one thinks about: count the number of serial ports you get, and try to figure how many you need. Do you have enough? Bob, I also have a GRT HX with a TrioPro. The arming is true enough, but there is a lot of button pushing to get the ILS in the first place, unless you have an SL-30. I have the GNS430W and it's a pita to get the approach set up on the 430W. Since I can switch the Trio to the 430W, I just do that and monitor everything on the HX. The 430W will fly the missed, but the single button push is on the 430W - not on the HX. What's your source for the ILS? In fact, that's the real discussion on EFIS selection - you Nav sources. I agree that you need lots of serial ports - like the GRT HX, or HXr. John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417260#417260 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:17:59 AM PST US From: "Rene Felker" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Advance flight systems Assumptions.... Approach loaded in 430 (note no w) EFIS in heading mode (which commands heading and altitude) AP (tt) coupled to EFIS When ready, pull up soft keys, select ILS, and then respond to one warning. Then when the you are close enough to capture the localizer the EFIS commands the AP to fly the ILS..... There are other ways to get there, but I am almost always being vectored to the approach, thus the heading mode. If you are hand flying, then you would have to engage the AP once the EFIS has captured the localizer and you were ready to stop flying. Rene' Felker N423CF 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of johngoodman Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 7:27 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Advance flight systems --> Bob Turner wrote: > To answer your last question, I fly in IMC behind a GRT HX, and am happy. > There is no button pushing if hand flying. If controlling an autopilot (Trio in my case) I push a knob to bring up the menu, push a button to arm the approach (choose ILS, LPV, etc), exit menu. All this is done prior to final course intercept. One button push plus add power will start the miss, if needed. > > Another little thing that no one thinks about: count the number of serial ports you get, and try to figure how many you need. Do you have enough? Bob, I also have a GRT HX with a TrioPro. The arming is true enough, but there is a lot of button pushing to get the ILS in the first place, unless you have an SL-30. I have the GNS430W and it's a pita to get the approach set up on the 430W. Since I can switch the Trio to the 430W, I just do that and monitor everything on the HX. The 430W will fly the missed, but the single button push is on the 430W - not on the HX. What's your source for the ILS? In fact, that's the real discussion on EFIS selection - you Nav sources. I agree that you need lots of serial ports - like the GRT HX, or HXr. John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417260#417260 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:23:14 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Advance flight systems From: "Bob Turner" John - yes I have an SL-30 and G420W (GPS-no VOR) combo, so I have a little less button pushing on the Nav's than you do. Still, at my home field (KLVK), I need to enter the ILS approach on the 420W because it's needed in case of a miss, in lieu of an ADF. So my ILS procedure is: enter the approach on the 420W, enter the localizer frequency on the SL-30. Go to the autopilot menu and select "gnav" (if I'm going to have the 420W provide guidance to the localizer, including any procedure turns/holding pattern entries) or "Heading" (if on vectors). Select "ILS arm". Exit the menu. On the main EFIS page push "Execute". The GRT HX does everything from here on except that I need to adjust the throttle to control speed (Trio will auto trim). HX puts final approach course in, scans all nav inputs looking for a localizer and, at localizer intercept, automatically switches to the SL-30. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417304#417304 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.