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1. 03:39 PM - I have a question regarding a Ray Allen Trim System for the RV-10 (Tal Holloway)
2. 03:47 PM - Re: I have a question regarding a Ray Allen Trim System for the RV-10 (Linn Walters)
3. 03:53 PM - Re: I have a question regarding a Ray Allen Trim System for the RV-10 (Tcwtech)
4. 04:04 PM - Re: I have a question regarding a Ray Allen Trim System for the RV-10 (Bob Condrey)
5. 05:41 PM - Re: I have a question regarding a Ray Allen Trim System for the (Bob Turner)
6. 06:06 PM - Re: Re: I have a question regarding a Ray Allen Trim System for the (Tcwtech)
7. 07:36 PM - Re: Re: I have a question regarding a Ray Allen Trim System for the (Bob Leffler)
8. 07:48 PM - turf runways (Cooprv7)
9. 07:58 PM - Re: turf runways (Linn Walters)
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| Subject: | I have a question regarding a Ray Allen Trim System for the |
RV-10
I purchased a RV-10 tail kit and part of the pkg was a T3-12A-TS system. I'm just
starting the kit and I'm not sure which AP I will eventually use. What AP is
this system compatible with? Does it work with Garmin, AFS or Dynon? It's never
been installed. Should I sell it and buy something different closer to avionics?
Thanks
Tal Holloway
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| Subject: | Re: I have a question regarding a Ray Allen Trim System for |
the RV-10
I've often thought that having the autopilot drive the trim servo (the
Ray Allen you have is the trim servo) would be far better than having
the autopilot control the elevator directly. I went the 'traditional'
route ... the Ray Allen is elevator trim and the autopilot controls the
elevator.
So, to answer your question .... (IMHO) you should keep the Ray Allen
and buy AP servos from the same vendor as the AP.
Linn
On 1/26/2014 6:38 PM, Tal Holloway wrote:
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> I purchased a RV-10 tail kit and part of the pkg was a T3-12A-TS system. I'm
just starting the kit and I'm not sure which AP I will eventually use. What AP
is this system compatible with? Does it work with Garmin, AFS or Dynon? It's
never been installed. Should I sell it and buy something different closer to avionics?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tal Holloway
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| Subject: | Re: I have a question regarding a Ray Allen Trim System for |
the RV-10
Tal.
This is the trim servo, not an autopilot servo. Now if you go with an autopilot
that supports auto-trimming, the autopilot system will connect into this servo.
The trim servo is compatible with all major brands of autopilots
Bob Newman
N541RV
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 26, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Tal Holloway <whodja@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I purchased a RV-10 tail kit and part of the pkg was a T3-12A-TS system. I'm
just starting the kit and I'm not sure which AP I will eventually use. What AP
is this system compatible with? Does it work with Garmin, AFS or Dynon? It's
never been installed. Should I sell it and buy something different closer to avionics?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tal Holloway
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| Subject: | Re: I have a question regarding a Ray Allen Trim System for |
the RV-10
The servo you have is part of the standard RV-10 tail kit. It is useful
and necessary regardless of autopilot installation or brand. Some
autopilots support auto-trim and would use this also for that purpose.
Bob
On Sunday, January 26, 2014, Tcwtech <rnewman@tcwtech.com> wrote:
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> Tal.
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> This is the trim servo, not an autopilot servo. Now if you go with an
> autopilot that supports auto-trimming, the autopilot system will connect
> into this servo. The trim servo is compatible with all major brands of
> autopilots
>
> Bob Newman
> N541RV
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jan 26, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Tal Holloway <whodja@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > I purchased a RV-10 tail kit and part of the pkg was a T3-12A-TS system.
> I'm just starting the kit and I'm not sure which AP I will eventually use.
> What AP is this system compatible with? Does it work with Garmin, AFS or
> Dynon? It's never been installed. Should I sell it and buy something
> different closer to avionics?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tal Holloway
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: I have a question regarding a Ray Allen Trim System for |
the
Hi Tal!
As the others have already posted, all of the available RV autopilots use a servo
which drives the elevator directly, not the trim. I suspect the trim doesn't
run fast enough in turbulence.
Different autopilots deal with trim differently. If you change airspeed, some units
will simply indicate that you need to re-trim, manually. Others will drive
the Ray Allen trim servos automatically (I know the Trio will do that, if ordered
with "auto trim". I think the same is true for TruTrak).
This is a ways off, but you will find the trim speed about right at takeoff and
landing speeds, but quite fast at cruise speeds. There is a box available ("safe-t-trim"??)
which will automatically slow the trim speed as airspeed goes up;
and at the same time will cut off trim if it runs more than 3 seconds, as a
safety precaution against a runaway trim. An option to consider, when you get
to the panel building.
Bob
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417637#417637
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| Subject: | Re: I have a question regarding a Ray Allen Trim System |
for the
Bob mentioned our Safety-trim product, all the details are on our web site: www.tcwtech.com
On Jan 26, 2014, at 8:40 PM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
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> Hi Tal!
>
> As the others have already posted, all of the available RV autopilots use a servo
which drives the elevator directly, not the trim. I suspect the trim doesn't
run fast enough in turbulence.
>
> Different autopilots deal with trim differently. If you change airspeed, some
units will simply indicate that you need to re-trim, manually. Others will drive
the Ray Allen trim servos automatically (I know the Trio will do that, if
ordered with "auto trim". I think the same is true for TruTrak).
>
> This is a ways off, but you will find the trim speed about right at takeoff and
landing speeds, but quite fast at cruise speeds. There is a box available ("safe-t-trim"??)
which will automatically slow the trim speed as airspeed goes
up; and at the same time will cut off trim if it runs more than 3 seconds, as
a safety precaution against a runaway trim. An option to consider, when you get
to the panel building.
>
> Bob
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417637#417637
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| Subject: | Re: I have a question regarding a Ray Allen Trim System |
for the
The same is true for Trutrak with the auto trim module.
I also recommend a module that controls trim spend like Safety-trim or the built
in trim control in the VPX.
Sent from my iPad
> On Jan 26, 2014, at 8:40 PM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Tal!
>
> As the others have already posted, all of the available RV autopilots use a servo
which drives the elevator directly, not the trim. I suspect the trim doesn't
run fast enough in turbulence.
>
> Different autopilots deal with trim differently. If you change airspeed, some
units will simply indicate that you need to re-trim, manually. Others will drive
the Ray Allen trim servos automatically (I know the Trio will do that, if
ordered with "auto trim". I think the same is true for TruTrak).
>
> This is a ways off, but you will find the trim speed about right at takeoff and
landing speeds, but quite fast at cruise speeds. There is a box available ("safe-t-trim"??)
which will automatically slow the trim speed as airspeed goes
up; and at the same time will cut off trim if it runs more than 3 seconds, as
a safety precaution against a runaway trim. An option to consider, when you get
to the panel building.
>
> Bob
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417637#417637
>
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I have steered clear of grass runways in my RV-10 since there is so little clearance
below the wheelpants, but I was wondering what experience others have had?
Those of you who fly off of grass, what sort of criteria and conditions do
you require?
I'm interested in moving to an Airpark (probably TN) in the next few years
and not having to limit the search to paved runways would sure open the opportunities.
Thanks,
Marcus
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| Subject: | Re: turf runways |
We're talking grass here. If the grass is long enough to cause damage
to the pants it's probably long enough to prevent you getting in the air.
The thing that destroys the pants are vibrations from many operations on
a rough runway. Drive a car down the runway .... at 40 MPH or more
you'll feel roughness.
Linn ..... lots of ops on grass strips
On 1/26/2014 10:48 PM, Cooprv7 wrote:
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> I have steered clear of grass runways in my RV-10 since there is so little clearance
below the wheelpants, but I was wondering what experience others have
had? Those of you who fly off of grass, what sort of criteria and conditions
do you require?
> I'm interested in moving to an Airpark (probably TN) in the next few years
and not having to limit the search to paved runways would sure open the opportunities.
>
> Thanks,
> Marcus
>
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> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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