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1. 04:12 AM - Re: Winter Milestone (Jack Phillips)
2. 04:16 AM - Re: Winter Milestone (Bill Watson)
3. 04:41 AM - Re: Tim Olson latest post "My rv building prayer" (Bill Watson)
4. 06:09 AM - Re: Winter Milestone (Marcus Cooper)
5. 06:40 AM - Re: Winter Milestone (Kelly McMullen)
6. 07:58 AM - Re: Winter Milestone (David Clifford)
7. 09:58 AM - Re: Winter Milestone (Don McDonald)
8. 11:11 AM - Re: Tim Olson latest post "My rv building prayer" (Marcus Cooper)
9. 11:14 AM - Re: Re: Door Struts, (Bruce Johnson)
10. 11:35 AM - Re: Winter Milestone (Bob Turner)
11. 12:07 PM - Re: Door Struts, (johngoodman)
12. 12:22 PM - Re: Winter Milestone (johngoodman)
13. 12:42 PM - Re: Re: Winter Milestone (Kelly McMullen)
14. 02:00 PM - Re: Tim Olson latest post "My rv building prayer" (Ben Westfall)
15. 04:09 PM - rapco pads (Alan Mekler MD)
16. 04:34 PM - Re: rapco pads (Kelly McMullen)
17. 04:55 PM - Re: rapco pads (Alan Mekler MD)
18. 06:17 PM - Re: rapco pads (Kelly McMullen)
19. 06:48 PM - Re: Winter Milestone (rvdave)
20. 07:07 PM - Re: rapco pads (Pascal)
21. 07:22 PM - Re: rapco pads (Kelly McMullen)
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| Subject: | Winter Milestone |
Try having your RV-10 project in a bunch of crates while you build a new
home. It's been 2 yers since I've seen the wings and tail of my -10, but
the house is finished (more or less) now and I'm about to break into the
crates and resume work on the RV-10 once again.
By the way, the house is actually a fly-in Bed & Breakfast, located adjacent
to the runway at Smith Mountain lake Airport (W91), near Roanoke, Virginia.
Check out our website at www.bedfordlandings.com and come stay a night or
two with us.
Jack Phillips
40610 - wings
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Linn Walters
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Winter Milestone
Thanks for sharing. I hate it when I have guys stop by and say 'looks
the same as the last time I saw it'. Depressing! It's a lot of little
things that take up so much time and show so little progress.
Linn BTDT
On 2/9/2014 9:43 PM, rvdave wrote:
>
> After last year of seeing mediocre progress on my 10 build and seeing and
hearing the advancements others have made, it's a little ironic that I would
see a milestone (to me) during the coldest months of the year -around 0 degF
--huddling around the 100K btu portable heater. I've had my fuselage
mounted on a low rolling square tube frame bolted to the wing spar and
supporting the tail for the last two years working on interior things,
overhead console, carbon fiber panel, electrical stuff--keeping it low for
as long as I could to make it easier for access to inside things. Enough of
that, I needed to see progress so bring out the gear legs---drilled and
mounted. Grease main bearings & mount wheels--done. Install nose gear,
grease bearing, mount nose wheel---done. Remove parasitic square tubed
frame--done. It's standing on its own now! Slide over engine hoist, lift
engine & bolt to engine mount--done. Break out baffle kit & begin
install-- now in progress...
> All in the last two weeks---for me a milestone. Had to share
>
> --------
> Dave Ford
> RV6 flying
> RV10 building
> Cadillac, MI
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418438#418438
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| Subject: | Re: Winter Milestone |
Hey Dave, I'm sitting here feeling good with you. Getting up off the
floor and up to full height is a major for sure! Strapping on that
beast of a Lycosaur is even better.
The '10 was my first but as a repeat offender.... is your 'six suddenly
getting smaller? I know my Maule was getting slower.
I remember the winter 2008 when I finally had all the big pieces ordered
and built up. The fuselage was still on it's rollers but I spent a day
just moving all the pieces around the hangar and taking pictures. It
started looking like a bunch of pieces that WOULD fly sometime soon.
The big January pick me up!
The glass work on the cowling was a piece of cake compared to the doors
and cabin work. The part you might want to skip is fitting the pants
but I'm sure you know better.
Thanks for sharing.
On 2/9/2014 9:43 PM, rvdave wrote:
>
> After last year of seeing mediocre progress on my 10 build and seeing and hearing
the advancements others have made, it's a little ironic that I would see
a milestone (to me) during the coldest months of the year -around 0 degF --huddling
around the 100K btu portable heater. I've had my fuselage mounted on a
low rolling square tube frame bolted to the wing spar and supporting the tail
for the last two years working on interior things, overhead console, carbon fiber
panel, electrical stuff--keeping it low for as long as I could to make it
easier for access to inside things. Enough of that, I needed to see progress
so bring out the gear legs---drilled and mounted. Grease main bearings & mount
wheels--done. Install nose gear, grease bearing, mount nose wheel---done.
Remove parasitic square tubed frame--done. It's standing on its own now! Slide
over engine hoist, lift engine & bolt to engine mount--done. Break out baffle
kit & begin install-- now in progress...
> All in the last two weeks---for me a milestone. Had to share
>
> --------
> Dave Ford
> RV6 flying
> RV10 building
> Cadillac, MI
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tim Olson latest post "My rv building prayer" |
I had the pleasure of meeting Tim during my first RV10 charged visit to
Osh. I was already in awe of the resource he had created for those of
us following behind. Everything he did reflected an intelligence and
energy that I marveled at and willingly tapped. Above all, his decision
making had a maturity that seemed beyond his relative youth.
Having just found his RV-14 site and the building prayer fills in some
of the missing pieces. Nicely said and shared Tim!
BTW, he's as nice and helpful and resourceful in person as he is out
here in the ether. If you can get a chance to meet him even briefly, do
it, because it sounds like he's getting even busier going forward.
Bill "thinking about writing the 7 deadly sins of building" Watson
On 2/10/2014 12:28 AM, Jackm wrote:
>
> I do not know Tim personally but have been on his website numerous times as I
think many of us have. He has created a huge resource for us as builders and
someday would like to thank him in person ....but... the real reason for this
post is I have read his latest post numerous times again and love the message
he has in it. I too, can relate to many things Tim expresses in this post and
I believe any builder struggling should read that post. There is so much to life
and Tim nails it on the head what really is important but yet has followed
a dream as many of us are. Thank you Tim, Andrea and your children.
>
> --------
> Jackm
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Winter Milestone |
Congrats Dave,
Very few people (if any) are able to press through a project as significant
as building an airplane without at least some pauses. There is nothing more
motivating than seeing progress! Well done and keep up the momentum, I guarantee
its worth it in the end.
Marcus
On Feb 9, 2014, at 9:43 PM, rvdave <rv610dave@gmail.com> wrote:
After last year of seeing mediocre progress on my 10 build and seeing and hearing
the advancements others have made, it's a little ironic that I would see a
milestone (to me) during the coldest months of the year -around 0 degF --huddling
around the 100K btu portable heater. I've had my fuselage mounted on a low
rolling square tube frame bolted to the wing spar and supporting the tail for
the last two years working on interior things, overhead console, carbon fiber
panel, electrical stuff--keeping it low for as long as I could to make it easier
for access to inside things. Enough of that, I needed to see progress so
bring out the gear legs---drilled and mounted. Grease main bearings & mount
wheels--done. Install nose gear, grease bearing, mount nose wheel---done. Remove
parasitic square tubed frame--done. It's standing on its own now! Slide
over engine hoist, lift engine & bolt to engine mount--done. Break out baffle
kit & begin install-- now in progress...
All in the last two weeks---for me a milestone. Had to share
--------
Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418438#418438
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| Subject: | Re: Winter Milestone |
I agree that the cowling is easier than the doors and canopy.
However, just wondering if I am the only one where the cowl molding just
is not right.
While the inner nose behind spinner fits just fine, the outer nose,
outside the openings, the lower half extends 1/8 to 1/4" further forward
than the upper cowl.
Since this is some of the thickest part of the glass, it isn't a matter
of flexing or trimming. While I will fix it, I'm not happy that the fit
wasn't better right out of the mold. It is the pink version of the
cowling, and I've got the rest of it fitting fine. Oh well, at least
hangar temps are getting back to where needed (mid 70s to 80s) for
mixing epoxy, etc. Apologies to those stuck in cold country.
Kelly
On 2/10/2014 5:15 AM, Bill Watson wrote:
>
> Hey Dave, I'm sitting here feeling good with you. Getting up off the
> floor and up to full height is a major for sure! Strapping on that
> beast of a Lycosaur is even better.
>
> The '10 was my first but as a repeat offender.... is your 'six
> suddenly getting smaller? I know my Maule was getting slower.
>
> I remember the winter 2008 when I finally had all the big pieces
> ordered and built up. The fuselage was still on it's rollers but I
> spent a day just moving all the pieces around the hangar and taking
> pictures. It started looking like a bunch of pieces that WOULD fly
> sometime soon. The big January pick me up!
>
> The glass work on the cowling was a piece of cake compared to the
> doors and cabin work. The part you might want to skip is fitting the
> pants but I'm sure you know better.
>
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> On 2/9/2014 9:43 PM, rvdave wrote:
>>
>> After last year of seeing mediocre progress on my 10 build and seeing
>> and hearing the advancements others have made, it's a little ironic
>> that I would see a milestone (to me) during the coldest months of the
>> year -around 0 degF --huddling around the 100K btu portable heater.
>> I've had my fuselage mounted on a low rolling square tube frame
>> bolted to the wing spar and supporting the tail for the last two
>> years working on interior things, overhead console, carbon fiber
>> panel, electrical stuff--keeping it low for as long as I could to
>> make it easier for access to inside things. Enough of that, I needed
>> to see progress so bring out the gear legs---drilled and mounted.
>> Grease main bearings & mount wheels--done. Install nose gear, grease
>> bearing, mount nose wheel---done. Remove parasitic square tubed
>> frame--done. It's standing on its own now! Slide over engine hoist,
>> lift engine & bolt to engine mount--done. Break out baffle kit &
>> begin install-- now in progress...
>> All in the last two weeks---for me a milestone. Had to share
>>
>> --------
>> Dave Ford
>> RV6 flying
>> RV10 building
>> Cadillac, MI
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Winter Milestone |
I have the pink cowlings and they match up really well. IIRC, I had to do some
grinding and trimming on the lower cowling nose area mating flange and also the
upper cowling where it overlaps the flange. There was a lot of excess epoxy
bumps in that area and once they were removed, sanded flat and trimmed, I had
a nice fit. I was very pleased with all of the fiberglass parts supplied by Van's
except for the strut fairing cuffs.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:39:53 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Winter Milestone
I agree that the cowling is easier than the doors and canopy.
However, just wondering if I am the only one where the cowl molding just
is not right.
While the inner nose behind spinner fits just fine, the outer nose,
outside the openings, the lower half extends 1/8 to 1/4" further forward
than the upper cowl.
Since this is some of the thickest part of the glass, it isn't a matter
of flexing or trimming. While I will fix it, I'm not happy that the fit
wasn't better right out of the mold. It is the pink version of the
cowling, and I've got the rest of it fitting fine. Oh well, at least
hangar temps are getting back to where needed (mid 70s to 80s) for
mixing epoxy, etc. Apologies to those stuck in cold country.
Kelly
On 2/10/2014 5:15 AM, Bill Watson wrote:
>
> Hey Dave, I'm sitting here feeling good with you. Getting up off the
> floor and up to full height is a major for sure! Strapping on that
> beast of a Lycosaur is even better.
>
> The '10 was my first but as a repeat offender.... is your 'six
> suddenly getting smaller? I know my Maule was getting slower.
>
> I remember the winter 2008 when I finally had all the big pieces
> ordered and built up. The fuselage was still on it's rollers but I
> spent a day just moving all the pieces around the hangar and taking
> pictures. It started looking like a bunch of pieces that WOULD fly
> sometime soon. The big January pick me up!
>
> The glass work on the cowling was a piece of cake compared to the
> doors and cabin work. The part you might want to skip is fitting the
> pants but I'm sure you know better.
>
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> On 2/9/2014 9:43 PM, rvdave wrote:
>>
>> After last year of seeing mediocre progress on my 10 build and seeing
>> and hearing the advancements others have made, it's a little ironic
>> that I would see a milestone (to me) during the coldest months of the
>> year -around 0 degF --huddling around the 100K btu portable heater.
>> I've had my fuselage mounted on a low rolling square tube frame
>> bolted to the wing spar and supporting the tail for the last two
>> years working on interior things, overhead console, carbon fiber
>> panel, electrical stuff--keeping it low for as long as I could to
>> make it easier for access to inside things. Enough of that, I needed
>> to see progress so bring out the gear legs---drilled and mounted.
>> Grease main bearings & mount wheels--done. Install nose gear, grease
>> bearing, mount nose wheel---done. Remove parasitic square tubed
>> frame--done. It's standing on its own now! Slide over engine hoist,
>> lift engine & bolt to engine mount--done. Break out baffle kit &
>> begin install-- now in progress...
>> All in the last two weeks---for me a milestone. Had to share
>>
>> --------
>> Dave Ford
>> RV6 flying
>> RV10 building
>> Cadillac, MI
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Winter Milestone |
Thanks.... now I have to go take a nap.... just reading all your accomplish
ments totally wiped me out.... Congrats.... it'll all be worth it.... to en
d up with the best traveling machine there is.=0ADon McDonald=0A=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0AOn Monday, February 10, 2014 10:12 AM, David Clifford <davidsoutpost@
comcast.net> wrote:=0A =0AI have the pink cowlings and they match up really
well.- IIRC, I had to do some grinding and trimming on the lower cowling
nose area mating flange and also the upper cowling where it overlaps the f
lange.- There was a lot of excess epoxy bumps in that area and once they
were removed, sanded flat and trimmed, I had a nice fit.- I was very plea
sed with all of the fiberglass parts supplied by Van's except for the strut
fairing cuffs.=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom: "Kelly McM
ullen" <kellym@aviating.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Monday,
February 10, 2014 9:39:53 AM=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: Winter Milestone=0A
=0AI agree that the cowling is easier than the doors and canopy.=0AHowever,
just wondering if I am the only one where the cowl molding just =0Ais not
right.=0AWhile the inner nose behind spinner fits just fine, the outer nose
, =0Aoutside the openings, the lower half extends 1/8 to 1/4" further forwa
rd =0Athan the upper cowl.=0ASince this is some of the thickest part of the
glass, it isn't a matter =0Aof flexing or trimming. While I will fix it, I
'm not happy that the fit =0Awasn't better right out of the mold. It is the
pink version of the =0Acowling, and I've got the rest of it fitting fine.
Oh well, at least =0Ahangar temps are getting back to where needed (mid 70s
to 80s) for =0Amixing epoxy, etc. Apologies to those stuck in cold country
.=0AKelly=0A=0AOn 2/10/2014 5:15 AM, Bill Watson wrote:=0A> --> RV10-List m
essage posted by: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>=0A>=0A> Hey Dave, I'm
sitting here feeling good with you. -Getting up off the =0A> floor and u
p to full height is a major for sure! -Strapping on that =0A> beast of a
-Lycosaur is even better.=0A>=0A> The '10 was my first but as a repeat of
fender.... is your 'six =0A> suddenly getting smaller? -I know my Maule w
as getting slower.=0A>=0A> I remember the winter 2008 when I finally had al
l the big pieces =0A> ordered and built up. -The fuselage was still on it
's rollers but I =0A> spent a day just moving all the pieces around the han
gar and taking =0A> pictures. -It started looking like a bunch of pieces
that WOULD fly =0A> sometime soon. -The big January pick me up!=0A>=0A> T
he glass work on the cowling was a piece of cake compared to the =0A> doors
and cabin work. -The part you might want to skip is fitting the =0A> pan
ts but I'm sure you know better.=0A>=0A> Thanks for sharing.=0A>=0A> On 2/9
<rv610dave@gmail.com>=0A>>=0A>> After last year of seeing mediocre progres
s on my 10 build and seeing =0A>> and hearing the advancements others have
made, it's a little ironic =0A>> that I would see a milestone (to me) durin
g the coldest months of the =0A>> year -around 0 degF --huddling around the
100K btu portable heater. -=0A>> I've had my fuselage mounted on a low r
olling square tube frame =0A>> bolted to the wing spar and supporting the t
ail for the last two =0A>> years working on interior things, overhead conso
le, carbon fiber =0A>> panel, electrical stuff--keeping it low for as long
as I could to =0A>> make it easier for access to inside things. -Enough o
f that, I needed =0A>> to see progress so bring out the gear legs---drilled
and mounted. - =0A>> Grease main bearings & mount wheels--done. -Insta
ll nose gear, grease =0A>> bearing, mount nose wheel---done. -Remove para
sitic square tubed =0A>> frame--done. -It's standing on its own now! -S
lide over engine hoist, =0A>> lift engine & bolt to engine mount--done. -
Break out baffle kit & =0A>> begin install-- now in progress...=0A>> All i
n the last two weeks---for me a milestone. -Had to share=0A>>=0A>> ------
--=0A>> Dave Ford=0A>> RV6 flying=0A>> RV10 building=0A>> Cadillac, MI=0A>>
=0A>=0A&g; - - - - - - --Matt Dralle, List Admin.====
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| Subject: | Re: Tim Olson latest post "My rv building prayer" |
I wanted to add a thanks for Tims account as well and will PM him with more details.
However, this inspired me to relate a story of just how awesome the RV-10
is and a particularly surprise benefit one night.
Ive used the airplane to haul people and even furniture to my kids at college and
the RV-10s performance is simply astounding. However, on 28 Mar of last year,
my wife were at home in northern VA when I get a call from my son-in-law near
Chicago telling us that our daughters water had broken and they were on the
way to the hospital for the delivery of our first grandchild. It was 6:30 and
after telling my wife the surprising news, as she was 2 weeks early which is
unheard of in our families, I checked the airline schedules and there was one
flight left that night with one open seat. Although I have flown a great deal
at night, it was usually either sitting on an ejection seat or an airplane
with at least 2 jet engines and Ive tended to shy away from night cross countries
in the RV-10. However, the airplane has been wonderfully reliable for over
600 hours at that point so we headed to the airport and within 4 hours of getting
the call were in DuPage, IL and driving to the hospital. I had filed direct
and while I normally get routed around ORD via Joliet, when the reroute came
over the radio I told the controller my daughter is in labor and we are on
our way to see her, any chance of a shortcutroger, cleared direct. This happened
three times before the next controller just said congratulations, cleared
direct when I checked in. In short, we got to the hospital before she even really
started into labor and thus experienced a number of blessings that night.
While at times a financial challenge to keep an airplane given all of the
overhead, my wife emphatically declared, we are never selling this airplane! ;)
A week later I flew the full size crib I had made for the little one with its
spring frame and mattress to them, this machine is amazing. The RV-10 has
afforded us many opportunities which would have been otherwise impossible, most
of which were unforseen, for which we are very thankful and I appreciate Tims
perspective on such projects along with his indispensable website full of!
tips an
d suggestions.
Cheers,
Marcus
On Feb 10, 2014, at 7:41 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
I had the pleasure of meeting Tim during my first RV10 charged visit to Osh. I
was already in awe of the resource he had created for those of us following behind.
Everything he did reflected an intelligence and energy that I marveled
at and willingly tapped. Above all, his decision making had a maturity that seemed
beyond his relative youth.
Having just found his RV-14 site and the building prayer fills in some of the missing
pieces. Nicely said and shared Tim!
BTW, he's as nice and helpful and resourceful in person as he is out here in the
ether. If you can get a chance to meet him even briefly, do it, because it
sounds like he's getting even busier going forward.
Bill "thinking about writing the 7 deadly sins of building" Watson
On 2/10/2014 12:28 AM, Jackm wrote:
>
> I do not know Tim personally but have been on his website numerous times as I
think many of us have. He has created a huge resource for us as builders and
someday would like to thank him in person ....but... the real reason for this
post is I have read his latest post numerous times again and love the message
he has in it. I too, can relate to many things Tim expresses in this post and
I believe any builder struggling should read that post. There is so much to life
and Tim nails it on the head what really is important but yet has followed
a dream as many of us are. Thank you Tim, Andrea and your children.
>
> --------
> Jackm
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Door Struts, |
That's just how tough they are. I replaced my original ones with the heavy
duty ones and was impressed by the difference. Just push really hard and th
ey will move.=0A-=0AGod Bless America=0A(please) -:)=0A=0A=0ABruce=0A
=0A=0A=0AOn Sunday, February 9, 2014 8:03 AM, johngoodman <johngoodman@eart
ngoodman@earthlink.net>=0A=0AI got tired of pushing the door up to get it t
o open all the way, so I bought the heavy duty ones from Van. It's been a l
ittle over a year, and they are beginning to require a push to get them up,
again....=0AJohn=0A=0A--------=0A#40572 Phase One complete and flying.=0A
=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/v
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| Subject: | Re: Winter Milestone |
My pink cowling is not cosmetically perfect, in the area you mentioned. But I had
a worse problem: the composite sandwich reinforcement around the aft end was
too far aft. (Vans questioned my measurement of the prop location; I replied
that there was no measurement, I had the prop installed). I had to cut away some
of that sandwich, lay in a flat area for the piano hinge, and then re-strengthen
the cowl in the area where I had removed the composite layer. For me this
was far and away the worst QC problem I encountered.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: Door Struts, |
Bruce,
Not exactly right... I was referring to their strength, once installed.
My heavy duty ones are getting weaker....
John
--------
#40572 Phase One complete and flying.
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| Subject: | Re: Winter Milestone |
jack(at)bedfordlandings.c wrote:
> Try having your RV-10 project in a bunch of crates while you build a new
> home. It's been 2 yers since I've seen the wings and tail of my -10, but
> the house is finished (more or less) now and I'm about to break into the
> crates and resume work on the RV-10 once again.
>
> By the way, the house is actually a fly-in Bed & Breakfast, located adjacent
> to the runway at Smith Mountain lake Airport (W91), near Roanoke, Virginia.
> Check out our website at www.bedfordlandings.com and come stay a night or
> two with us.
>
> Jack Phillips
> 40610 - wings
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Jack,
Great looking place, and it's halfway between Atlanta and Newark - a trip I plan
on making a lot. Just might drop in one evening.
John
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| Subject: | Re: Winter Milestone |
Hmm, they must have fixed that. I chose to go with Skybolt fasteners, which
some folks had to do a similar reduction of the foam sandwich area to have
room for the mounting strip for receptacles. Mine fit without modifiying
the rear of the cowl at all, beyond the normal trimming.
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>
> My pink cowling is not cosmetically perfect, in the area you mentioned.
> But I had a worse problem: the composite sandwich reinforcement around the
> aft end was too far aft. (Vans questioned my measurement of the prop
> location; I replied that there was no measurement, I had the prop
> installed). I had to cut away some of that sandwich, lay in a flat area for
> the piano hinge, and then re-strengthen the cowl in the area where I had
> removed the composite layer. For me this was far and away the worst QC
> problem I encountered.
>
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> RV-10 QB
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418472#418472
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| Subject: | Tim Olson latest post "My rv building prayer" |
Marcus and Jack I concur. Longer version follows...
Tim's accounts (and many others) mean so much to me as I've struggled to
consistently pickup working on our 10 kit with any steam since our first
child was born in Sept 2009. Fast forward to today... 2 kids, 1 house
addition, backyard and patio re-do, stint of unemployment w/o feeling
comfortable dropping additional $$ on the kit, starting a business to cure
the unemployment (that sucks all time known to man), having another side
business that eats even more time, juggling time w/wife and kids, and here
we are today 2013 w/the progress being a slow trickle.
My wife and I started building in May 2006 and we worked side by side most
the time till late spring 2009 midway through the first pregnancy. We
completed up to the cabin top install and a rough pass on the doors before
the CISD "child induced slow down" got a hold. I've struggled on and off
through the years thinking that it would improve my state of mind if I sold
the kit so I didn't have to look at it collecting dust in the garage. I
cannot quite come to that as truthfully I'd end up too resentful. I know it
will be such a good "family plane" that I hold out hope for completion while
the kids are young and impressionable. I struggle with how will I swallow
the last 600 or so hours of work in front of me when I'm lucky to get 10
hours a month in! Well that's what your knees are for I guess and I should
take a lesson from Tim and pray about it more. Oh yeah and during all this
try to fly enough to hopefully remember how when it comes to that.
It's helped having 2 local builders to share in their successes. Mark
Cooper and David Halmos, Mark has completed and flown and David just moved
his out of the garage to paint. Following w/them I've had flashes of
brilliance thinking I can get things done. In the last year or two I've had
2 or 3 hour stints for several weeks working on the project regularly before
slipping into another 3 month "hiatus". Gone is the "family project"
atmosphere though. The reality is it's time away from the wife and kids as
4 & 2 year olds don't "add" to the productivity.
If I look back over a longer period (a year to two) I have made progress it
just doesn't feel like it. Doors are done w/retrofit for mcmaster seals,
all windows glued in, cabin top is on for good, Geoff Comb's interior
installed and painted, it's on the gear, finished the wheel pants and gear
leg fairings using Dave Saylors intersection fairing method, completed all
the firewall pass trough's and prep for mounting the motor which is where
I'm currently at and I should have the motor in the next week or two. I'm
looking forward to something other than fiberglass as it's hard to get
motivated for that in the cold.
End ramble,
Ben Westfall
Portland, OR
PS. I stumbled on this video a while back and I thought it was pretty
special http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkOInCAxNm8. A real motivator to
keep me building as I watched and laughed along seeing the kids in this.
Quite funny and endearing at the same time.
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Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tim Olson latest post "My rv building prayer"
I wanted to add a thanks for Tim's account as well and will PM him with more
details. However, this inspired me to relate a story of just how awesome
the RV-10 is and a particularly surprise benefit one night.
I've used the airplane to haul people and even furniture to my kids at
college and the RV-10s performance is simply astounding. However, on 28 Mar
of last year, my wife were at home in northern VA when I get a call from my
son-in-law near Chicago telling us that our daughter's water had broken and
they were on the way to the hospital for the delivery of our first
grandchild. It was 6:30 and after telling my wife the surprising news, as
she was 2 weeks early which is unheard of in our families, I checked the
airline schedules and there was one flight left that night with one open
seat. Although I have flown a great deal at night, it was usually either
sitting on an ejection seat or an airplane with at least 2 jet engines and
I've tended to shy away from night cross countries in the RV-10. However,
the airplane has been wonderfully reliable for over 600 hours at that point
so we headed to the airport and within 4 hours of getting the call were in
DuPage, IL and driving to !
the hospital. I had filed direct and while I normally get routed around
ORD via Joliet, when the reroute came over the radio I told the controller
"my daughter is in labor and we are on our way to see her, any chance of a
shortcut"."roger, cleared direct". This happened three times before the
next controller just said "congratulations, cleared direct" when I checked
in. In short, we got to the hospital before she even really started into
labor and thus experienced a number of blessings that night. While at
times a financial challenge to keep an airplane given all of the overhead,
my wife emphatically declared, "we are never selling this airplane!" ;) A
week later I flew the full size crib I had made for the little one with its
spring frame and mattress to them, this machine is amazing. The RV-10 has
afforded us many opportunities which would have been otherwise impossible,
most of which were unforseen, for which we are very thankful and I
appreciate Tim's perspective!
on such projects along with his indispensable website full of!
tips an
d suggestions.
Cheers,
Marcus
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well i tried the cheaper rapco brake pads. i had a caliber leak and although the
pads had only 40 hours on them they wore unevenly. My regular mechanic said
to replace them.
Has anyone else had problems with the Rapco pads?
Alan
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Having pads uneven is not a problem. Having petroleum on them in the form
of 5606 is. A thorough cleaning with BrakeKlean to remove the 5606 can
resurect a pad if there is enough thickness to justify. Also, if you decide
to replace, just do the caliper that needs pads. No need to do the other
side.
Kelly
A&P/IA
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net>wrote:
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> well i tried the cheaper rapco brake pads. i had a caliber leak and
> although the pads had only 40 hours on them they wore unevenly. My regular
> mechanic said to replace them.
> Has anyone else had problems with the Rapco pads?
>
> Alan
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kelly,
pads had enough thickness but my mechanic didn=92t like the the way they
looked.
alan
On Feb 10, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
> Having pads uneven is not a problem. Having petroleum on them in the
form of 5606 is. A thorough cleaning with BrakeKlean to remove the 5606
can resurect a pad if there is enough thickness to justify. Also, if you
decide to replace, just do the caliper that needs pads. No need to do
the other side.
> Kelly
> A&P/IA
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Alan Mekler MD
<amekler@metrocast.net> wrote:
<amekler@metrocast.net>
>
> well i tried the cheaper rapco brake pads. i had a caliber leak and
although the pads had only 40 hours on them they wore unevenly. My
regular mechanic said to replace them.
> Has anyone else had problems with the Rapco pads?
>
> Alan
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Being experimental, it is your choice to take his advise or ignore it.
Looks are not one of my criteria.
On 2/10/2014 5:54 PM, Alan Mekler MD wrote:
> kelly,
> pads had enough thickness but my mechanic didnt like the the way they
> looked.
> alan
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com
> <mailto:apilot2@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Having pads uneven is not a problem. Having petroleum on them in the
>> form of 5606 is. A thorough cleaning with BrakeKlean to remove the
>> 5606 can resurect a pad if there is enough thickness to justify.
>> Also, if you decide to replace, just do the caliper that needs pads.
>> No need to do the other side.
>> Kelly
>> A&P/IA
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Alan Mekler MD
>> <amekler@metrocast.net <mailto:amekler@metrocast.net>> wrote:
>>
>> <amekler@metrocast.net <mailto:amekler@metrocast.net>>
>>
>> well i tried the cheaper rapco brake pads. i had a caliber leak
>> and although the pads had only 40 hours on them they wore
>> unevenly. My regular mechanic said to replace them.
>> Has anyone else had problems with the Rapco pads?
>>
>> Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Winter Milestone |
Now I see...cowl next, lots of trimming and sanding to fit--little by little...
> Well, you can't get too far on those baffles until you have the engine cowling
done so that you can accurately trim the baffles to the cowling.
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Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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I have a early version of the 112's and they have been working very nicely
and evenly. I gather you need a mechanic because you didnt build the plane?
I never let anyone touch my plane. Heard of too many planes going down
within 1 hour of a mechanic signing it off as good for the annual. I
replaced my pads last November with the Rapcos and they too were very well
work through.
pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly McMullen
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: rapco pads
Being experimental, it is your choice to take his advise or ignore it.
Looks are not one of my criteria.
On 2/10/2014 5:54 PM, Alan Mekler MD wrote:
> kelly,
> pads had enough thickness but my mechanic didnt like the the way they
> looked.
> alan
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com
> <mailto:apilot2@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Having pads uneven is not a problem. Having petroleum on them in the form
>> of 5606 is. A thorough cleaning with BrakeKlean to remove the 5606 can
>> resurect a pad if there is enough thickness to justify. Also, if you
>> decide to replace, just do the caliper that needs pads. No need to do the
>> other side.
>> Kelly
>> A&P/IA
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net
>> <mailto:amekler@metrocast.net>> wrote:
>>
>> <amekler@metrocast.net <mailto:amekler@metrocast.net>>
>>
>> well i tried the cheaper rapco brake pads. i had a caliber leak
>> and although the pads had only 40 hours on them they wore
>> unevenly. My regular mechanic said to replace them.
>> Has anyone else had problems with the Rapco pads?
>>
>> Alan
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This raises an interesting question. For a type certified aircraft an IA is
required for annual inspection, which can be signed off as unairworthy with
a list of discrepancies. Any A&P can then fix the discrepancies and sign
them off, making the aircraft airworthy.
For a non-builder an A&P is only required for annual condition inspection.
Can someone advise from Ops Limits if anyone can take care of the
discrepancies found on the inspection? It would make sense to me, since
anyone can do maintenance on amateur built, without any certificate for
anything repair/maintenance/mod, but for the annual, where repairman or A&P
is needed.
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Pascal <rv10flyer@live.com> wrote:
>
> I have a early version of the 112's and they have been working very nicely
> and evenly. I gather you need a mechanic because you didn't build the
> plane? I never let anyone touch my plane. Heard of too many planes going
> down within 1 hour of a mechanic signing it off as good for the annual. I
> replaced my pads last November with the Rapcos and they too were very well
> work through.
> pascal
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Kelly McMullen
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 6:16 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: rapco pads
>
>
>
> Being experimental, it is your choice to take his advise or ignore it.
> Looks are not one of my criteria.
>
> On 2/10/2014 5:54 PM, Alan Mekler MD wrote:
>
>> kelly,
>> pads had enough thickness but my mechanic didn't like the the way they
>> looked.
>> alan
>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com <mailto:
>> apilot2@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Having pads uneven is not a problem. Having petroleum on them in the
>>> form of 5606 is. A thorough cleaning with BrakeKlean to remove the 5606 can
>>> resurect a pad if there is enough thickness to justify. Also, if you decide
>>> to replace, just do the caliper that needs pads. No need to do the other
>>> side.
>>> Kelly
>>> A&P/IA
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net<mailto:
>>> amekler@metrocast.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> <amekler@metrocast.net <mailto:amekler@metrocast.net>>
>>>
>>> well i tried the cheaper rapco brake pads. i had a caliber leak
>>> and although the pads had only 40 hours on them they wore
>>> unevenly. My regular mechanic said to replace them.
>>> Has anyone else had problems with the Rapco pads?
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
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