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1. 07:59 AM - Re: Greetings ... and minimalist priming questions. (AirMike)
2. 08:24 AM - Re: Re: Greetings ... and minimalist priming questions. (Rene Felker)
3. 08:33 AM - WTB. Small quantity of proseal (rvdave)
4. 08:47 AM - Re: WTB. Small quantity of proseal (Rene Felker)
5. 08:47 AM - Re: WTB. Small quantity of proseal (Pascal)
6. 09:12 AM - Re: WTB. Small quantity of proseal (rvdave)
7. 10:45 AM - Re: Re: Greetings ... and minimalist priming questions. (Alan Mekler MD)
8. 10:54 AM - Wing tip question (woxofswa)
9. 12:01 PM - Re: Wing tip question (Carl Froehlich)
10. 01:39 PM - Re: Wing tip question (bill.peyton)
11. 01:48 PM - Re: Archer wingtip antenna (bill.peyton)
12. 02:16 PM - Re: Wing tip question (woxofswa)
13. 06:51 PM - Re: Wing tip question (dmaib@me.com)
14. 07:24 PM - Re: Greetings ... and minimalist priming questions. (AirMike)
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| Subject: | Re: Greetings ... and minimalist priming questions. |
Having owned a plane with filiform corrosion (a Piper), I was sensitive to the
issue. I trained with Wally Anderson at Synergy in Eugene,OR. and he primes everything
with a wash primer. I felt that if it was the way that Wally went, that
I would do the same. I feel that it added only nominal weight and it looks
great. I also used an epoxy primer from DuPont that is tough as nails on the floors
and sidewalls. My attitude is - corrosion will never be a worry for me or
the person to whom I sell the plane. My weight is 2620#.
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| Subject: | Re: Greetings ... and minimalist priming questions. |
I hope you meant 1620#. :)
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 8:58 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Greetings ... and minimalist priming questions.
Having owned a plane with filiform corrosion (a Piper), I was sensitive to
the issue. I trained with Wally Anderson at Synergy in Eugene,OR. and he
primes everything with a wash primer. I felt that if it was the way that
Wally went, that I would do the same. I feel that it added only nominal
weight and it looks great. I also used an epoxy primer from DuPont that is
tough as nails on the floors and sidewalls. My attitude is - corrosion will
never be a worry for me or the person to whom I sell the plane. My weight is
2620#.
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See you OSH '14
Q/B - flying 4 yrs.
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| Subject: | WTB. Small quantity of proseal |
Wondering if anyone would sell me a small quantity of proseal and hardener --just
need probably a few oz or part of a can left over?
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Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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| Subject: | WTB. Small quantity of proseal |
Vans used to sell it in a 1 oz size.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rvdave
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 9:33 AM
Subject: RV10-List: WTB. Small quantity of proseal
Wondering if anyone would sell me a small quantity of proseal and hardener
--just need probably a few oz or part of a can left over?
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Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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| Subject: | Re: WTB. Small quantity of proseal |
order new 1 time use tube from AS&S.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/search/search.php?s=TANK+SEALANT&x=0&y=0
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From: rvdave
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 8:32 AM
Subject: RV10-List: WTB. Small quantity of proseal
Wondering if anyone would sell me a small quantity of proseal and
hardener --just need probably a few oz or part of a can left over?
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Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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| Subject: | Re: WTB. Small quantity of proseal |
Ok didn't realize there was small quantity available
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Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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| Subject: | Re: Greetings ... and minimalist priming questions. |
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 5, 2014, at 11:24 AM, "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> wrote:
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> I hope you meant 1620#. :)
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> Rene' Felker
> N423CF
> 801-721-6080
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 8:58 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Greetings ... and minimalist priming questions.
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> Having owned a plane with filiform corrosion (a Piper), I was sensitive to
> the issue. I trained with Wally Anderson at Synergy in Eugene,OR. and he
> primes everything with a wash primer. I felt that if it was the way that
> Wally went, that I would do the same. I feel that it added only nominal
> weight and it looks great. I also used an epoxy primer from DuPont that is
> tough as nails on the floors and sidewalls. My attitude is - corrosion will
> never be a worry for me or the person to whom I sell the plane. My weight is
> 2620#.
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> See you OSH '14
> Q/B - flying 4 yrs.
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| Subject: | Wing tip question |
My project is in the paint shop. In a previous thread I discussed the pros/cons
of not drilling out the wingtip attach holes until after paint when I will have
the flaps and ailerons all installed.
My new question is this though. There is the w-1016 wingtip support that seals
off the aft section of the tip. I haven't drill that out yet either but I can
do before those parts get painted and then not have to touch up the paint afterwards,
but I was wondering about how much that part needs to be mated up to
the aileron or how much distortion play in can inflict on that section of the
tip. Another thought I had was to not drill it out now and rather than drill
it out later, just to epoxy it in after paint.
Any comments/suggestions appreciated.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. FWF complete.
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| Subject: | Wing tip question |
As you note, wingtip rigging needs to be done last - fit the wings, then
flaps, then ailerons, then wingtips. The trailing edge of the wingtip can
move up or down a good half inch - thus you need to know where it goes
before you drill the mounting holes or wingtip rib. If not rigged properly
you can easily end up with the wingtip acting as an aileron - and since it
is as far out as it can go a small variance can create a large moment arm.
To be blunt, this should have been done during initial wing fit up, then
everything taken off for paint. As you have gone to paint without a wing
and control surface fit up I see only one path forward that does not mess up
the final paint. You paint everything but the wingtips, assemble and rig
the wings, flaps and ailerons, fit the wingtips then take the wingtips back
for paint. Many people do some glass work on the wingtips after the rib is
installed as well.
Carl
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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 1:54 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Wing tip question
My project is in the paint shop. In a previous thread I discussed the
pros/cons of not drilling out the wingtip attach holes until after paint
when I will have the flaps and ailerons all installed.
My new question is this though. There is the w-1016 wingtip support that
seals off the aft section of the tip. I haven't drill that out yet either
but I can do before those parts get painted and then not have to touch up
the paint afterwards, but I was wondering about how much that part needs to
be mated up to the aileron or how much distortion play in can inflict on
that section of the tip. Another thought I had was to not drill it out now
and rather than drill it out later, just to epoxy it in after paint.
Any comments/suggestions appreciated.
--------
Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. FWF complete.
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| Subject: | Re: Wing tip question |
I agree with Carl. The wingtips should have been fit prior to paint. I had to
separate and re-glass the rear half of one of the tips to get it in alignment
properly. There is no reason that this can't be done off of the plane, but you
will need to install both the flaps and the ailerons to properly align the tip.
The W-1016 should also be installed. Only then should the tips be painted.
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Bill
WA0SYV
Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Archer wingtip antenna |
I have one in each wing tip and they work every bit as well as my last aircraft,
which had the external cat whisker antenna. I also use them for the glide slope.
Of course by mounting them in the wing tips off of the centerline of the
aircraft, your Localizer beam will be offset by the approximate 15 fit the
antenna is off centerline :o
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Bill
WA0SYV
Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Wing tip question |
I understand where you guys are coming from and appreciate the inputs.
In my case the paint shop is 50 yards from my hangar and since tips are Matterhorn
white only, the painter says we can do them anytime.
My goal on installation and rigging was to do it just once with virgin hardware
with each piece at it's final weight. Obviously if the paint shop location were
different I would have made other plans.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. FWF complete.
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| Subject: | Re: Wing tip question |
This is one of those questions that seems to come up every year or two. In my opinion,
it is one of the areas where following Van's instructions carefully is
the right way to go. My wife and I followed the instructions very carefully and
ended up with wingtips perfectly matched to the ailerons. Between us, we had
almost zero experience with these kinds of things. Maybe we were just lucky,
but I think this is one of those areas where deciding to do it differently might
increase the possibility of mis-aligned wing tips/ailerons. Their are some
areas where some of the smart people on these forums have figured out a better
mousetrap, and I have been the beneficiary of more than a few of those. But,
I don't believe wingtips are one of those.
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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Transition Trainer
New Smyrna Beach, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Greetings ... and minimalist priming questions. |
yea - yea - 1620#
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See you OSH '14
Q/B - flying 4 yrs.
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