---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/20/14: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:27 AM - Door jambs (bob88) 2. 02:40 AM - Re: Door jambs (Bob Leffler) 3. 04:20 AM - Re: Door jambs (Jesse Saint) 4. 05:12 AM - Re: Door jambs (Michael Kraus) 5. 05:12 PM - Best way to protect plexiglas during installation (bob88) 6. 05:34 PM - Re: Best way to protect plexiglas during installation (Les Kearney) 7. 06:31 PM - Re: Best way to protect plexiglas during installation (Dave Saylor) 8. 07:04 PM - Re: Best way to protect plexiglas during installation (Linn Walters) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:27:26 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Door jambs From: "bob88" What is best way to finish the door jambs, ie cover the screw heads and fill gaps between cabin cover and aluminum fuselage structure? Is a layer of glass needed or just fill with micro? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420654#420654 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:40:41 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door jambs From: Bob Leffler The plans call to fill the interior door jamb gaps with flox, which is stronger than just micro. I used flox to fill 95% of the gap and then used micro to topcoat. Micro is easier to sand and look nice. I also countersinked the screw holes a little deeper and then cover the heads with micro. On the exterior joints where it mates with aluminum, I used micro to fill the gaps, then two layers of cloth and then used micro to blend it in to look smooth. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 20, 2014, at 4:22 AM, "bob88" wrote: > > > What is best way to finish the door jambs, ie cover the screw heads and fill gaps between cabin cover and aluminum fuselage structure? Is a layer of glass needed or just fill with micro? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420654#420654 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:20:41 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door jambs From: Jesse Saint We have not used cloth. As Bob said, flox for big gaps and the micro from there. Do not archive. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 20, 2014, at 5:39 AM, Bob Leffler wrote: > > > The plans call to fill the interior door jamb gaps with flox, which is stronger than just micro. I used flox to fill 95% of the gap and then used micro to topcoat. Micro is easier to sand and look nice. > > I also countersinked the screw holes a little deeper and then cover the heads with micro. > > On the exterior joints where it mates with aluminum, I used micro to fill the gaps, then two layers of cloth and then used micro to blend it in to look smooth. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 20, 2014, at 4:22 AM, "bob88" wrote: >> >> >> What is best way to finish the door jambs, ie cover the screw heads and fill gaps between cabin cover and aluminum fuselage structure? Is a layer of glass needed or just fill with micro? >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420654#420654 > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:03 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door jambs From: Michael Kraus I countersunk and filled the screw heads and glassed over the door jambs and the seam between the cabin top and the fuselage. Then (where needed) filled the area with micro and sanded. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 20, 2014, at 4:22 AM, "bob88" wrote: > > > What is best way to finish the door jambs, ie cover the screw heads and fill gaps between cabin cover and aluminum fuselage structure? Is a layer of glass needed or just fill with micro? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420654#420654 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:18 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Best way to protect plexiglas during installation From: "bob88" Is there a best practice for plexiglas protection during installation? Also what not use flox to glue them in? Everyone seems to dislike weld-on. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420700#420700 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:02 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Best way to protect plexiglas during installation From: Les Kearney Marty I am sure there are wiser people than me, but here's what I did. First I trimmed the protective plastic back to leave a sufficient perimeter around the window for gluing. I taped the plastic to keep it it neat. I left the plastic on as long as possible for protection purposes while working around the windows. I used a Lord adhesive that I got from Geoff Combs at Aeroplastics to glue the windows. I stayed away from Weld-on. My glass fit would have caused crazing if I used Weldon given the pressure required to get things in place. Cheers Led Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 20, 2014, at 8:11 PM, "bob88" wrote: > > > Is there a best practice for plexiglas protection during installation? Also what not use flox to glue them in? Everyone seems to dislike weld-on. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420700#420700 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:53 PM PST US From: Dave Saylor Subject: Re: RV10-List: Best way to protect plexiglas during installation I usually just leave the plastic on the plex. How well flox sticks to the plastic is entirely dependent on what resin it's made with. Typical laminating resins won't bond all that well to plex. If others are having success with Lord or something else, I'd be inclined to try that. But I've seen a few "general purpose" and laminating epoxies used that weren't meant specifically for plex. They didn't bond well at all. Weld-On makes a strong bond because I believe it sort of softens the plex. You can think of it as kind of taking root in the plastic. Because of that, any distortion or preload tends to craze the area around the preloaded bond. Lots has been written about that. Dave Saylor 831-750-0284 CL On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:11 PM, bob88 wrote: > > Is there a best practice for plexiglas protection during installation? > Also what not use flox to glue them in? Everyone seems to dislike weld-on. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420700#420700 > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:40 PM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: Best way to protect plexiglas during installation On 3/20/2014 8:11 PM, bob88 wrote: > > Is there a best practice for plexiglas protection during installation? ACS has spray lat that puts a latex coating on the plexiglass .... the thicker the coat the easier it is to peel off. > Also what not use flox to glue them in? Everyone seems to dislike weld-on. I plan on using the rubber sealant that they use to glue car windshields in and cover the joint with real lightweight fiberglass cloth. There's also a product called sikaflex. http://www.rv8.ch/article.php/20041122082807627 I think flox will be too brittle and will crack loose due to the expansion coefficient differences between the acrylic and the FG cabin top. Linn > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420700#420700 > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.