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1. 02:50 PM - Re: Vertical Power move to Everett, WA and Oshkosh, WI (dmaib@me.com)
2. 04:54 PM - Re: Re: Vertical Power move to Everett, WA and Oshkosh, WI (Carl Froehlich)
3. 06:32 PM - Re: Vertical Power move to Everett, WA and Oshkosh, WI (dmaib@me.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Vertical Power move to Everett, WA and Oshkosh, WI |
I agree with Matt that people generally were not aware of everything the VP-200
gives you. I like the auto mode switching function, but equally, if not more
important to me, is the ability to easily get detailed information on virtually
every electrical component in your airplane. If a light bulb quits working,
you will know immediately that it is not working, which one it is, and have a
pretty good idea of the nature of the fault. Pretty nice to have that info about
every electrical component on the airplane. The ability to automatically load
shed in the event of an alternator failure is pretty nice, as well. Change
from incandescent bulbs to HID or LED? A few key strokes sets your electronic
circuit breakers to the new values. Add some of the improvements that came along
before the demise of the VP-200, such as trim speed control and runaway trim
protection, the Climate Control Module for those of us with air conditioning,
Gretz heated pitot system annunciation, electronic check lists, cabin altitude
warning, etc., etc., etc., and I can say that I would not be happy to lose
my VP-200.
Certainly this type of system is not for everybody, and fortunately we all get
to make our own decisions about these kinds of things. I just don't think VP was
ever able to communicate all of the value of this system. I had been flying
advanced cockpit jets for several years when the VP-200 first came out, and I
knew right away that I wanted those capabilities in my RV-10.
I do remember having a conversation with Stein a few years ago about why the VP-200
wasn't doing as well as I felt like it should. He commented that people with
experience in advanced cockpit airplanes seemed to appreciate the value more
easily than others. Whatever the reason the system did not succeed in the market
place, the fact is, it didn't. Maybe there will be another attempt at it
as time goes on.
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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Transition Trainer
New Smyrna Beach, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Vertical Power move to Everett, WA and Oshkosh, WI |
Hopefully not starting an argument - I looked at this system when I built
the RV-10. Looking beyond the price tag, I wanted to see how it would
incorporate two fully independent power sources (as in two masters - one on
each battery, and each battery feeding exactly half the panel but cross
connected if needed). It seemed that I would need to install two Vertical
Power units to achieve a system that did not have the typical power
continuity single fault vulnerability that is common with most spam
aircraft.
I went with a less expensive approach.
Carl
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Subject: RV10-List: Re: Vertical Power move to Everett, WA and Oshkosh, WI
I agree with Matt that people generally were not aware of everything the
VP-200 gives you. I like the auto mode switching function, but equally, if
not more important to me, is the ability to easily get detailed information
on virtually every electrical component in your airplane. If a light bulb
quits working, you will know immediately that it is not working, which one
it is, and have a pretty good idea of the nature of the fault. Pretty nice
to have that info about every electrical component on the airplane. The
ability to automatically load shed in the event of an alternator failure is
pretty nice, as well. Change from incandescent bulbs to HID or LED? A few
key strokes sets your electronic circuit breakers to the new values. Add
some of the improvements that came along before the demise of the VP-200,
such as trim speed control and runaway trim protection, the Climate Control
Module for those of us with air conditioning, Gretz heated pitot system
annunciation, electronic!
check lists, cabin altitude warning, etc., etc., etc., and I can say that
I would not be happy to lose my VP-200.
Certainly this type of system is not for everybody, and fortunately we all
get to make our own decisions about these kinds of things. I just don't
think VP was ever able to communicate all of the value of this system. I had
been flying advanced cockpit jets for several years when the VP-200 first
came out, and I knew right away that I wanted those capabilities in my
RV-10.
I do remember having a conversation with Stein a few years ago about why the
VP-200 wasn't doing as well as I felt like it should. He commented that
people with experience in advanced cockpit airplanes seemed to appreciate
the value more easily than others. Whatever the reason the system did not
succeed in the market place, the fact is, it didn't. Maybe there will be
another attempt at it as time goes on.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Transition Trainer
New Smyrna Beach, FL
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420862#420862
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| Subject: | Re: Vertical Power move to Everett, WA and Oshkosh, WI |
No arguments from me, Carl. Like I said, we all get to make our own decisions on
these airplanes. What a great deal that is!
You are correct that you would want two VP-200 control units to have a dual buss
system. I have two control units, but did not go with a dual buss or split system.
So, even though I put some thought into what components should be wired
to each control unit, I do not have a true split system. However, I got it the
way I wanted it! It was a bit more expensive to go the two CU route, but I knew
that up front. If I had been trying to build the lowest cost RV-10 I would
have done several things differently, that's for sure!
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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Transition Trainer
New Smyrna Beach, FL
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420874#420874
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