RV10-List Digest Archive

Mon 03/24/14


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 06:51 AM - Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing (rvdave)
     2. 07:59 AM - Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing (Carl Froehlich)
     3. 11:57 AM - Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing (rvdave)
     4. 12:40 PM - Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing (hotwheels)
     5. 04:16 PM - PARTNER MAYBE (mds4878)
     6. 04:42 PM - Re: PARTNER MAYBE (Linn Walters)
     7. 05:03 PM - Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing (rvdave)
     8. 06:12 PM - Re: Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing (Dick & Vicki Sipp)
     9. 08:48 PM - Re: PARTNER MAYBE (Dave Saylor)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:51:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing
    From: "rvdave" <rv610dave@gmail.com>
    Finishing up baffling and looking to route Lightspeed crank sensor cable and lower spark plug wire through baffling. First is whether to go above or below engine with crank sensor and where to penetrate firewall? I have dual so wondering about running them together. Next how to get lower plug wire to bottom plug from coil on top of engine--maybe silicone grommet thru baffling? -------- Dave Ford RV6 flying RV10 building Cadillac, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420918#420918


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    Time: 07:59:08 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing
    Mount the coils for the bottom plugs behind the engine baffle on the engine mount via adle clamps, not on top of the engine. Mount the top plug coils on top of the engine. This simplifies the coil to plug wiring. Carl -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rvdave Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 9:50 AM Subject: RV10-List: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing Finishing up baffling and looking to route Lightspeed crank sensor cable and lower spark plug wire through baffling. First is whether to go above or below engine with crank sensor and where to penetrate firewall? I have dual so wondering about running them together. Next how to get lower plug wire to bottom plug from coil on top of engine--maybe silicone grommet thru baffling? -------- Dave Ford RV6 flying RV10 building Cadillac, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420918#420918


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    Time: 11:57:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing
    From: "rvdave" <rv610dave@gmail.com>
    That may be the best way--will have to get longer HV leads if I do that though. How about the crank sensor leads--cross over under the engine then run parallel to firewall? -------- Dave Ford RV6 flying RV10 building Cadillac, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420939#420939


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    Time: 12:40:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing
    From: "hotwheels" <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
    Photos attached. I have dual LSE. RG400 coming out of top portion of firewall are high tension coil wires. The bottom coils are attached to the engine mount. The top coils are attached to the engine case. Crank sensor wires route across the co-pilot side beneath the oil returns. I used both adel clamps and RTV where required. The most important thing is to run the RG400 coil wires separate from the sensor wires. Cheers, Jay 433RV - flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420944#420944 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/hpim0798_835.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/hpim0789_178.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/hpim0781_158.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/hpim0779_203.jpg


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    Time: 04:16:25 PM PST US
    Subject: PARTNER MAYBE
    From: "mds4878" <mike.nova1973@gmail.com>
    Hello my post today is to consider whether or not to take on a partner in the RV10 I've been building. I live in Mound MN and own a hangar in Winsted MN where the aircraft would end up when finished. Pros and cons to a partner would be interesting to here, thanks. If interested call Mike 612-590-8604 or (mike.nova1973@gmail.com) -------- RV-10 #40447 Fuselage almost done. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420952#420952


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    Time: 04:42:45 PM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: PARTNER MAYBE
    I'm building solo .... well, kinda ..... I have another RV-10 builder that I can ask when I need help. If you get a partner that is savvy .... or learns quickly ..... that is a real help. My son-in law (now ex) was eager to work but his attention to detail left a lot to be desired. I had to go over all his work and fix it ..... more trouble than it's worth. The other observation is that if you do get a partner, write down all the details .... who does the work, contributes money etc ..... and get it notarized. If the partner is just a warm body with a pair of hands but contributes money to the project .... define how much your work is worth against the moneys the partner contributes, and how much time you expect him/her to contribute and put penalties in there if he doesn't put in the hours agreed on. What makes it difficult is to assess the 'value' of the work you've performed, and the value of the partner contribution ..... and how much of a share the partner will have when the airplane is finished. AOPA has a draft agreement for a flying aircraft partnership that may be somewhat applicable .... or at least food for thought. *http://tinyurl.com/ktwh4mw* Linn On 3/24/2014 7:15 PM, mds4878 wrote: > > Hello my post today is to consider whether or not to take on a partner in the RV10 I've been building. > I live in Mound MN and own a hangar in Winsted MN where the aircraft would end up when finished. > Pros and cons to a partner would be interesting to here, thanks. > If interested call Mike 612-590-8604 or (mike.nova1973@gmail.com) > > -------- > RV-10 #40447 > Fuselage almost done. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420952#420952 > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >


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    Time: 05:03:53 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing
    From: "rvdave" <rv610dave@gmail.com>
    Looks good, one other thing--how about exiting the flywheel, how specifically do you route and mount the sensor wires to get the clearance from rotating flywheel? Do you mount an adel clamp to the sensor circuit board also? -------- Dave Ford RV6 flying RV10 building Cadillac, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420956#420956


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    Time: 06:12:09 PM PST US
    From: "Dick & Vicki Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing
    The area where the sensor wires exit behind the flywheel has always bothered me. I think I laced them together and clamped them as close to the bottom seam of the case as possible and then back under the cyls. in a bundle with some other engine sensor wiring. No problems at 550 hours. An unrelated observation is that the advance at cruise power is always within a degree or two of 25 same as the mag. That is unless I get to power settings below about 60% such as above 10,000 or lower than normal manifold pressures. I would really like to have two PMAGS if they would ever finish work on them. Dick RV-10, RV-4, RV-12 -----Original Message----- From: rvdave Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:03 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing Looks good, one other thing--how about exiting the flywheel, how specifically do you route and mount the sensor wires to get the clearance from rotating flywheel? Do you mount an adel clamp to the sensor circuit board also? -------- Dave Ford RV6 flying RV10 building Cadillac, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420956#420956


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    Time: 08:48:52 PM PST US
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: PARTNER MAYBE
    I've had a partner in my -10 since before it was flying. I sold him half just in time to pay for the engine and panel. He didn't participate in the build much, if at all. He's an experienced pilot and someone I had known for a few years. He has another plane, too. For me, it's been a great experience. Some of the good points: + Everything except fuel is half price: parts, insurance, hangar, GPS subscriptions, repairs, etc. I guess we pay our own CFIs from time to time too, but virtually everything is half. + I have someone to fly with (IFR currency) who knows the plane and avionics at least as well as I do. + We used the AOPA agreement as a template, and massaged a few things here and there. +We use Google calendar to schedule. If it's on the schedule, it's pretty much set in stone. Of course there are times when we discuss who/when/where but the conflicts are few and far between. If we come to loggerheads, which I don't really recall happening in seven years, we've agreed to the final say being appointed to each of us in alternating months--he gets the evens, I get the odds...or vice versa...I forget. + I do virtually all the maintenance, and he pays me half of what we agree is a reasonable rate. If he helps out, our time cancels. + We've agreed to pay a weighted share of the engine overhaul. We log every flight, so when the time comes, we'll do some bookkeeping and see how even things are. He used to fly about two hours to my one, but at some point I passed him in RV-10 time. Of course you have to get along. If you can work out the little things, it's a good deal. The plane flys more, which is usually good, and I do too, since my gas budget gets a big boost! Dave Saylor 831-750-0284 CL On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:15 PM, mds4878 <mike.nova1973@gmail.com> wrote: > > Pros and cons to a partner would be interesting to here, thanks. > >




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