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     1. 06:51 AM - Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing (rvdave)
     2. 07:59 AM - Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing (Carl Froehlich)
     3. 11:57 AM - Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing (rvdave)
     4. 12:40 PM - Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing (hotwheels)
     5. 04:16 PM - PARTNER MAYBE (mds4878)
     6. 04:42 PM - Re: PARTNER MAYBE (Linn Walters)
     7. 05:03 PM - Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing (rvdave)
     8. 06:12 PM - Re: Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing (Dick & Vicki Sipp)
     9. 08:48 PM - Re: PARTNER MAYBE (Dave Saylor)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing | 
      
      
      Finishing up baffling and looking to route Lightspeed crank sensor cable and lower
      spark plug wire through baffling.   First is whether to go above or below
      engine with crank sensor and where to penetrate firewall?  I have dual so wondering
      about running them together.
      Next how to get lower plug wire to bottom plug from coil on top of engine--maybe
      silicone grommet thru baffling?
      
      --------
      Dave Ford
      RV6 flying
      RV10 building
      Cadillac, MI
      
      
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| Subject:  | Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing | 
      
      
      Mount the coils for the bottom plugs behind the engine baffle on the engine
      mount via adle clamps, not on top of the engine.  Mount the top plug coils
      on top of the engine.  This simplifies the coil to plug wiring.
      
      Carl
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rvdave
      Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 9:50 AM
      Subject: RV10-List: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing
      
      
      Finishing up baffling and looking to route Lightspeed crank sensor cable and
      lower spark plug wire through baffling.   First is whether to go above or
      below engine with crank sensor and where to penetrate firewall?  I have dual
      so wondering about running them together.
      Next how to get lower plug wire to bottom plug from coil on top of
      engine--maybe silicone grommet thru baffling?
      
      --------
      Dave Ford
      RV6 flying
      RV10 building
      Cadillac, MI
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420918#420918
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing | 
      
      
      That may be the best way--will have to get longer HV leads if I do that though.
      
      How about the crank sensor leads--cross over under the engine then run parallel
      to firewall?
      
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      Dave Ford
      RV6 flying
      RV10 building
      Cadillac, MI
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing | 
      
      
      Photos attached. I have dual LSE. RG400 coming out of top portion of firewall are
      high tension coil wires. The bottom coils are attached to the engine mount.
      The top coils are attached to the engine case. Crank sensor wires route across
      the co-pilot side beneath the oil returns. I used both adel clamps and RTV where
      required. The most important thing is to run the RG400 coil wires separate
      from the sensor wires.
      
      Cheers,
      Jay
      433RV - flying
      
      
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      Hello my post today is to consider whether or not to take on a partner in the RV10
      I've been building. 
      I live in Mound MN and own a hangar in Winsted MN where the aircraft would end
      up when finished.
      Pros and cons to a partner would be interesting to here, thanks.
      If interested call Mike 612-590-8604 or (mike.nova1973@gmail.com)
      
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      RV-10  #40447
      Fuselage almost done.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420952#420952
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: PARTNER MAYBE | 
      
      I'm building solo .... well, kinda ..... I have another RV-10 builder 
      that I can ask when I need help.
      If you get a partner that is savvy .... or learns quickly ..... that is 
      a real help.  My son-in law (now ex) was eager to work but his attention 
      to detail left a lot to be desired.  I had to go over all his work and 
      fix it ..... more trouble than it's worth.
      
      The other observation is that if you do get a partner, write down all 
      the details .... who does the work, contributes money etc ..... and get 
      it notarized.  If the partner is just a warm body with a pair of hands 
      but contributes money to the project .... define how much your work is 
      worth against the moneys the partner contributes, and how much time you 
      expect him/her to contribute and put penalties in there if he doesn't 
      put in the hours agreed on.  What makes it difficult is to assess the 
      'value' of the work you've performed, and the value of the partner 
      contribution ..... and how much of a share the partner will have when 
      the airplane is finished.
      
      AOPA has a draft agreement for a flying aircraft partnership that may be 
      somewhat applicable .... or at least food for thought.
      *http://tinyurl.com/ktwh4mw*
      Linn
      
      
      On 3/24/2014 7:15 PM, mds4878 wrote:
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      > Hello my post today is to consider whether or not to take on a partner in the
      RV10 I've been building.
      > I live in Mound MN and own a hangar in Winsted MN where the aircraft would end
      up when finished.
      > Pros and cons to a partner would be interesting to here, thanks.
      > If interested call Mike 612-590-8604 or (mike.nova1973@gmail.com)
      >
      > --------
      > RV-10  #40447
      > Fuselage almost done.
      >
      >
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      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420952#420952
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| Subject:  | Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing | 
      
      
      Looks good, one other thing--how about exiting the flywheel, how specifically do
      you route and mount the sensor wires to get the clearance from rotating flywheel?
      Do you mount an adel clamp to the sensor circuit board also?
      
      --------
      Dave Ford
      RV6 flying
      RV10 building
      Cadillac, MI
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420956#420956
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing | 
      
      
      The area where the sensor wires exit behind the flywheel has always bothered 
      me.  I think I laced them together and clamped them as close to the bottom 
      seam of the case as possible and then back under the cyls. in a bundle with 
      some other engine sensor wiring.  No problems at 550 hours.
      
      An unrelated observation is that the advance at cruise power is always 
      within a degree or two of 25 same as the mag.  That is unless I get to power 
      settings below about 60% such as above 10,000 or lower than normal manifold 
      pressures.  I would really like to have two PMAGS if they would ever finish 
      work on them.
      
      Dick
      RV-10, RV-4, RV-12
      
      -----Original Message----- 
      From: rvdave
      Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:03 PM
      Subject: RV10-List: Re: Lightspeed crank and ignition wire routing
      
      
      Looks good, one other thing--how about exiting the flywheel, how 
      specifically do you route and mount the sensor wires to get the clearance 
      from rotating flywheel?  Do you mount an adel clamp to the sensor circuit 
      board also?
      
      --------
      Dave Ford
      RV6 flying
      RV10 building
      Cadillac, MI
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420956#420956
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: PARTNER MAYBE | 
      
      I've had a partner in my -10 since before it was flying.  I sold him half
      just in time to pay for the engine and panel.  He didn't participate in the
      build much, if at all.
      
      He's an experienced pilot and someone I had known for a few years.  He has
      another plane, too.
      
      For me, it's been a great experience.  Some of the good points:
      
      + Everything except fuel is half price:  parts, insurance, hangar, GPS
      subscriptions, repairs, etc.  I guess we pay our own CFIs from time to time
      too, but virtually everything is half.
      
      + I have someone to fly with (IFR currency) who knows the plane and
      avionics at least as well as I do.
      
      + We used the AOPA agreement as a template, and massaged a few things here
      and there.
      
      +We use Google calendar to schedule.  If it's on the schedule, it's pretty
      much set in stone.  Of course there are times when we discuss
      who/when/where but the conflicts are few and far between.  If we come to
      loggerheads, which I don't really recall happening in seven years, we've
      agreed to the final say being appointed to each of us in alternating
      months--he gets the evens, I get the odds...or vice versa...I forget.
      
      + I do virtually all the maintenance, and he pays me half of what we agree
      is a reasonable rate.  If he helps out, our time cancels.
      
      + We've agreed to pay a weighted share of the engine overhaul.  We log
      every flight, so when the time comes, we'll do some bookkeeping and see how
      even things are.  He used to fly about two hours to my one, but at some
      point I passed him in RV-10 time.
      
      Of course you have to get along.  If you can work out the little things,
      it's a good deal.  The plane flys more, which is usually good, and I do
      too, since my gas budget gets a big boost!
      
      
      Dave Saylor
      831-750-0284 CL
      
      
      On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:15 PM, mds4878 <mike.nova1973@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      
      
      >
      >
      Pros and cons to a partner would be interesting to here, thanks.
      >
      >
      
 
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