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Sat 04/19/14


Total Messages Posted: 17



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     1. 07:20 AM - Chelton/ S-Tec Sold (Kelly McMullen)
     2. 08:01 AM - Good FAA doc on aircraft ownership (Kelly McMullen)
     3. 08:25 AM - Re: AFS 4500 and VP-200 Fuel Qty (johngoodman)
     4. 11:23 AM - Re: Re: AFS 4500 and VP-200 Fuel Qty (Sean Stephens)
     5. 11:33 AM - Re: Re: AFS 4500 and VP-200 Fuel Qty (Sean Stephens)
     6. 12:53 PM - Cabin door safety latch (bob88)
     7. 02:12 PM - Re: Cabin door safety latch (Kelly McMullen)
     8. 03:06 PM - Re: Cabin door safety latch (Bob Leffler)
     9. 03:46 PM - Re: Cabin door safety latch (Marcus Cooper)
    10. 04:34 PM - Re: Cabin door safety latch (Bob Leffler)
    11. 05:29 PM - Re: Cabin door safety latch (Marcus Cooper)
    12. 05:47 PM - Re: Cabin door safety latch (Seano)
    13. 05:50 PM - Re: Cabin door safety latch (Tim Lewis)
    14. 06:05 PM - Re: Cabin door safety latch (Kelly McMullen)
    15. 06:21 PM - Re: Cabin door safety latch (Marcus Cooper)
    16. 06:33 PM - Re: Cabin door safety latch (Phillip Perry)
    17. 09:18 PM - First Engine Start (Sean Stephens)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:20:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Chelton/ S-Tec Sold
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    I expect this will be of interest to some of the early builders with Chelton displays: S-TEC And Chelton Flight Systems Acquired In MBO Businesses Included In Management Buyout Of Cobham Avionics Genesys Aerosystems Group has acquired Chelton Flight Systems, Inc. and S-TEC Corporation, previously doing business as Cobham Avionics, from Cobham in a management buyout. Genesys Aerosystems was formed by Roger Smith, President, and General Manager of the two acquired companies, Rick Price and Gordon Pratt, co-founders of Chelton Flight Systems, and Tammy Crawford, Director of Finance, for the purpose of acquiring the businesses. Key customers include AgustaWestland, Airbus Military, Air Medical Group Holdings, Bell Helicopter, Carson Helicopters, Embraer, Grob Aircraft, Sikorsky, Textron AirLand, and commercial, military, and government fleets around the world. Chelton Flight Systems, originally founded in 1997, developed the world's first FAA-certified synthetic vision flight display system and GPS/WAAS navigator and has grown to become a leader in integrated cockpit avionics systems for special-mission aircraft. Key technologies include synthetic vision with three-dimensional highway-in-the-sky navigation, integrated flight management and hazard alerting, and ultra-compact, highly ruggedized sensors that provide ultimate customer benefits of increased safety, improved dispatch rates, mission flexibility, and seamless future growth. FAA-approved for all classes of aircraft, the company's uniquely customizable open-architecture systems dramatically reduce integration costs and schedules for both OEM and retrofit applications. Chelton Flight Systems products have been certified on over 700 different aircraft types. S-TEC Corporation, founded in 1978, offers a full line of autopilots for airplanes and helicopters. From low-cost analog wing levelers to sophisticated, digital, three-axis systems with Flight Director and envelope protection, S-TEC has FAA certification for nearly 1,000 aircraft types and has delivered over 40,000 autopilot systems. The company's new HeliSAS brings digital, full-authority autopilot technology to the market in a package weighing an unprecedented 15 lbs. Available as a stability augmentation system only or with all autopilot modes, HeliSAS dramatically enhances safety for light single- and twinengine helicopters. "We are a dynamic and growing company," says Smith. "We will continue to support our customers with state-of-the-art technology, agile development, excellent quality, and superb product support. The name is changing but the people and our commitment to our vision are not."


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    Time: 08:01:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Good FAA doc on aircraft ownership
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    While I'm sure it doesn't cover a lot on experimentals, it is a good source for aircraft ownership responsibilities for your reference library. Everything you ever wanted to know about registration, and everything else - http://tinyurl.com/klkspks


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    Time: 08:25:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: AFS 4500 and VP-200 Fuel Qty
    From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
    Mine is a GRT with VP-200, and I had to put a resistor in-line to get the voltage correct. What is your EIS? John -------- #40572 Phase One complete in 2011 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422103#422103


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    Time: 11:23:32 AM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: Re: AFS 4500 and VP-200 Fuel Qty
    The AFS 4500 EE is an EFIS/Engine monitor combo, so it provides data to the VP-200 using AVTN/Chelton protocol over serial. Odd part is that everything but the fuel qty is correct. Had first engine start today and all the other instrumentation on the VP-200 matched the AFS 4500. > johngoodman <mailto:johngoodman@earthlink.net> > April 19, 2014 at 10:24 AM > > Mine is a GRT with VP-200, and I had to put a resistor in-line to get > the voltage correct. What is your EIS? > John > > -------- > #40572 Phase One complete in 2011 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422103#422103 > >


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    Time: 11:33:18 AM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: Re: AFS 4500 and VP-200 Fuel Qty
    Thanks Mike. Whenever you get the chance. I just want to confirm the protocol and data association fields to check off the "Sean's not a bonehead" item on my list. :) > Mike Whisky <mailto:rv-10@wellenzohn.net> > April 18, 2014 at 4:26 PM > > Hi Sean > I have the same combo and didn't notice any difference. However having > said this my AF-4500 displays Fuel in Liters and the VP-200 in > Gallons. I'll check next time I'm at my plane but that might be a while. > > Mike > > -------- > RV-10 builder (flying, test phase) > #511 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422072#422072 > >


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    Time: 12:53:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Cabin door safety latch
    From: "bob88" <marty.crooks@comcast.net>
    How do most builders feel about the necessity of installing the cabin door safety latch? How long ago did Vans come out with that, as a lot of the photos I see do not show that it has been installed. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422113#422113


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    Time: 02:12:41 PM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: Cabin door safety latch
    It has been more than 2 years since Van's came out with the service bulletin. The first 5 yrs or so they did nothing while a dozen or more doors came off. IMHO, Van's service bulletin is almost as bad as the problem. Sean Strasburg engineered a very elegant third latch, in the same area, that operates with the door handle and is invissible from the outside. On 4/19/2014 12:44 PM, bob88 wrote: > > How do most builders feel about the necessity of installing the cabin door safety latch? How long ago did Vans come out with that, as a lot of the photos I see do not show that it has been installed. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422113#422113 > >


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    Time: 03:06:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cabin door safety latch
    From: Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com>
    I couldn't have said it better. Sean's latch works as advertised. Bob Sent from my iPad On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: >> >> >>


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    Time: 03:46:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cabin door safety latch
    From: Marcus Cooper <cooprv7@yahoo.com>
    Has anyone installed one of Seans systems after painting and putting in the interior? I need to do something like this but really dont want undo more than necessary. Thanks, Marcus On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: I couldn't have said it better. Sean's latch works as advertised. Bob Sent from my iPad On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: >> >> >>


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    Time: 04:34:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cabin door safety latch
    From: Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com>
    If I remember correctly, Scott Schmidt installed the latch well after painting. I seem to recall that he documented the process either here or on VAF. You may want to search the archives. Bob Sent from my iPad > On Apr 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Has anyone installed one of Seans systems after painting and putting in the interior? I need to do something like this but really dont want undo more than necessary. > > Thanks, > Marcus > > On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: > > > I couldn't have said it better. Sean's latch works as advertised. > > Bob > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:29:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cabin door safety latch
    From: Marcus Cooper <cooprv7@yahoo.com>
    Thanks, I found some good comments on a new install but still looking for the retrofit. Based on price more than anything, Im tempted to go with the 90 degree retrofit and new guide pins. Any thoughts from folks on the 180 vs 90 degree setups? Marcus On Apr 19, 2014, at 7:32 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: If I remember correctly, Scott Schmidt installed the latch well after painting. I seem to recall that he documented the process either here or on VAF. You may want to search the archives. Bob Sent from my iPad > On Apr 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Has anyone installed one of Seans systems after painting and putting in the interior? I need to do something like this but really dont want undo more than necessary. > > Thanks, > Marcus > > On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: > > > I couldn't have said it better. Sean's latch works as advertised. > > Bob > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:47:48 PM PST US
    From: "Seano" <sean@braunandco.com>
    Subject: Re: Cabin door safety latch
    Marcus, I can send the instructions to your email for the 180 retro and another email with the 90. They are large files so let me know if you want them. Around 6.5 mb each. Also, feel free to call me if you want to chat about your installation. 801-580-3737. Sean -----Original Message----- From: Marcus Cooper Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 6:27 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cabin door safety latch Thanks, I found some good comments on a new install but still looking for the retrofit. Based on price more than anything, Im tempted to go with the 90 degree retrofit and new guide pins. Any thoughts from folks on the 180 vs 90 degree setups? Marcus On Apr 19, 2014, at 7:32 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: If I remember correctly, Scott Schmidt installed the latch well after painting. I seem to recall that he documented the process either here or on VAF. You may want to search the archives. Bob Sent from my iPad > On Apr 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Has anyone installed one of Seans systems after painting and putting in > the interior? I need to do something like this but really dont want undo > more than necessary. > > Thanks, > Marcus > > On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: > > > I couldn't have said it better. Sean's latch works as advertised. > > Bob > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: > >


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    Time: 05:50:23 PM PST US
    From: Tim Lewis <timrvator@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Cabin door safety latch
    I'm glad i installed it on my RV-10. - It is very convenient for temporarily securing door in windy conditions (loading, preflight ). - It practically guarantees the main latch pins engage properly by first assuring door leading & trailing edges are properly aligned w/ door frame. Not sure how much it would help if main latch or pins actually failed in flight - have not seen any reports/data on this. Tim Lewis RV-10 N31TD 500 hrs RV-6A N47TD 1100 hrs A&P Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 19, 2014, at 3:44 PM, "bob88" <marty.crooks@comcast.net> wrote: > > > How do most builders feel about the necessity of installing the cabin door safety latch? How long ago did Vans come out with that, as a lot of the photos I see do not show that it has been installed. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422113#422113 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:05:18 PM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: Cabin door safety latch
    http://tinyurl.com/ph4ucvb Is some of Scott's pictures. At the time, his and Sean's plane were in same hangar (may still be, don't know). Sean is exceedingly helpful to get you through any head scratching episodes. Kelly On 4/19/2014 4:32 PM, Bob Leffler wrote: > > If I remember correctly, Scott Schmidt installed the latch well after painting. I seem to recall that he documented the process either here or on VAF. You may want to search the archives. > > Bob > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Apr 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> Has anyone installed one of Seans systems after painting and putting in the interior? I need to do something like this but really dont want undo more than necessary. >> >> Thanks, >> Marcus >> >> On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: >> >> >> I couldn't have said it better. Sean's latch works as advertised. >> >> Bob >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 06:21:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cabin door safety latch
    From: Marcus Cooper <cooprv7@yahoo.com>
    Excellent, thanks! Marcus On Apr 19, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: http://tinyurl.com/ph4ucvb Is some of Scott's pictures. At the time, his and Sean's plane were in same hangar (may still be, don't know). Sean is exceedingly helpful to get you through any head scratching episodes. Kelly On 4/19/2014 4:32 PM, Bob Leffler wrote: > > If I remember correctly, Scott Schmidt installed the latch well after painting. I seem to recall that he documented the process either here or on VAF. You may want to search the archives. > > Bob > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Apr 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> Has anyone installed one of Seans systems after painting and putting in the interior? I need to do something like this but really dont want undo more than necessary. >> >> Thanks, >> Marcus >> >> On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: >> >> >> I couldn't have said it better. Sean's latch works as advertised. >> >> Bob >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 06:33:44 PM PST US
    From: Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Cabin door safety latch
    3 votes for Sean's solution. It's great. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 19, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: I couldn't have said it better. Sean's latch works as advertised. Bob Sent from my iPad On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote:


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    Time: 09:18:12 PM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: First Engine Start
    N428RV hiit a milestone today when it purr'd like a tiger after sitting for almost a year just waiting to be fed. Everything went smooth. Now it's time to submit some paperwork and start the final process of getting a few thousand feet between her wheels and the ground. Video of the event: http://youtu.be/6Gtz0Z-_rFA Thanks to the gang at BPA! -Sean #40303




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