RV10-List Digest Archive

Thu 04/24/14


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 04:01 PM - Re: Leaking vent line on QB tanks (woxofswa)
     2. 05:21 PM - camlocs on the bottom of cowl (Chris Hukill)
     3. 05:33 PM - Re: camlocs on the bottom of cowl (Linn Walters)
     4. 05:35 PM - Re: camlocs on the bottom of cowl (David Clifford)
     5. 06:15 PM - Re: camlocs on the bottom of cowl (Danny Riggs)
     6. 06:17 PM - Re: camlocs on the bottom of cowl (Jesse Saint)
     7. 06:50 PM - Re: camlocs on the bottom of cowl (Don McDonald)
     8. 07:59 PM - Fuel lines (rvdave)
     9. 08:40 PM - Re: Fuel lines (Jesse Saint)
    10. 09:44 PM - Re: Fuel lines (Bob Leffler)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:01:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Leaking vent line on QB tanks
    From: "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com>
    Mike Andresen aka Azcloudflyer has a complete tool rig specifically for this problem that he has sent all over the world to folks with this issue. Once the sensor plate is off, it's a 30 second fix. -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. FWF complete. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422335#422335


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    Time: 05:21:18 PM PST US
    From: "Chris Hukill" <cjhukill@cox.net>
    Subject: camlocs on the bottom of cowl
    I saw a post on VansAirforce about Camlocs causing problems on the bottom of the cowl. I am installing the cowling on my RV10 right now with hinges on the side of the bottom cowl and camlocs on the bottom. My RV8 has hinges on the side and nutplates on the bottom, and I am very happy with the way the cowl slides aft and the hinges hold it up until I install the pins, a one man job. I was thinking that the camlocs might prevent that smooth installation because the camlocs would hang up the cowl from sliding aft. I can easily change now to nutplates. Can anyone give me any feedback on this configuration? Chris Hukill getting closer everyday


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    Time: 05:33:04 PM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: camlocs on the bottom of cowl
    No experience with camlocs on the bottom of lower cowl. I put nutplates and screws all across the bottom. I'm not flying yet but my reasoning was screws/nutplates are less espensive and I already have to crawl under the plane to unscrew the bracket in the ramp so why not the ones on the side. I think the camlocs would get in the way as you slide the lower cowl in place. I did put camlocs on the upper cowl and hinges down the sides. Linn On 4/24/2014 8:20 PM, Chris Hukill wrote: > I saw a post on VansAirforce about Camlocs causing problems on the > bottom of the cowl. I am installing the cowling on my RV10 right now > with hinges on the side of the bottom cowl and camlocs on the bottom. > My RV8 has hinges on the side and nutplates on the bottom, and I am > very happy with the way the cowl slides aft and the hinges hold it up > until I install the pins, a one man job. I was thinking that the > camlocs might prevent that smooth installation because the camlocs > would hang up the cowl from sliding aft. I can easily change now to > nutplates. Can anyone give me any feedback on this configuration? > Chris Hukill > getting closer everyday > * > > > * > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> >


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    Time: 05:35:54 PM PST US
    From: David Clifford <davidsoutpost@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: camlocs on the bottom of cowl
    I have camloc's on the bottome of my lower cowling and have no issues getting it on or off. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hukill" <cjhukill@cox.net> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 8:20:41 PM Subject: RV10-List: camlocs on the bottom of cowl I saw a post on VansAirforce about Camlocs causing problems on the bottom of the cowl. I am installing the cowling on my RV10 right now with hinges on the side of the bottom cowl and camlocs on the bottom. My RV8 has hinges on the side and nutplates on the bottom, and I am very happy with the way the cowl slides aft and the hinges hold it up until I install the pins, a one man job. I was thinking that the camlocs might prevent that smooth installation because the camlocs would hang up the cowl from sliding aft. I can easily change now to nutplates. Can anyone give me any feedback on this configuration? Chris Hukill getting closer everyday


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    Time: 06:15:17 PM PST US
    From: Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com>
    Subject: camlocs on the bottom of cowl
    I've used CamLocks on both pieces of the cowl. No problems to date. From: flying-nut@cfl.rr.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: camlocs on the bottom of cowl No experience with camlocs on the bottom of lower cowl. I put nutplates and screws all across the bottom. I'm not flying yet but my reasoning was screws/nutplates are less espensive and I already have to crawl under the plane to unscrew the bracket in the ramp so why not the ones on the side. I think the camlocs would get in the way as you slide the lower cowl in place. I did put camlocs on the upper cowl and hinges down the sides. Linn On 4/24/2014 8:20 PM=2C Chris Hukill wrote: I saw a post on VansAirforce about Camlocs causing problems on the bottom of the cowl. I am installing the cowling on my RV10 right now with hinges on the side of the bottom cowl and camlocs on the bottom. My RV8 has hinges on the side and nutplates on the bottom=2C and I am very happy with the way the cowl slides aft and the hinges hold it up until I install the pins=2C a one man job. I was thinking that the camlocs might prevent that smooth installation because the camlocs would hang up the cowl from sliding aft. I can easily change now to nutplates. Can anyone give me any feedback on this configuration? Chris Hukill getting closer everyday No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 04/24/14


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    Time: 06:17:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: camlocs on the bottom of cowl
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Some 1/4 turn fasteners cause more of a problem in that type if thing than o thers. I have installed Skybolt fasteners on a couple if cowls there without trouble. Screws and nutplates are definitely cheaper. The biggest reason to go screws, IMHO, is the reason already given, that you still have 6 screws o n the bottom of the cowl to remove, so you'll already be down there. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org www.mavericklsa.com C: 352-427-0285 O: 352-465-4545 F: 815-377-3694 Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 24, 2014, at 8:35 PM, David Clifford <davidsoutpost@comcast.net> wr ote: > > I have camloc's on the bottome of my lower cowling and have no issues gett ing it on or off. > > From: "Chris Hukill" <cjhukill@cox.net> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 8:20:41 PM > Subject: RV10-List: camlocs on the bottom of cowl > > I saw a post on VansAirforce about Camlocs causing problems on the bottom o f the cowl. I am installing the cowling on my RV10 right now with hinges on t he side of the bottom cowl and camlocs on the bottom. My RV8 has hinges on t he side and nutplates on the bottom, and I am very happy with the way the co wl slides aft and the hinges hold it up until I install the pins, a one man j ob. I was thinking that the camlocs might prevent that smooth installation b ecause the camlocs would hang up the cowl from sliding aft. I can easily cha nge now to nutplates. Can anyone give me any feedback on this configuration? > Chris Hukill > getting closer everyday > > > get="_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Li st">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ta-mce-href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > _blank" data-mce-href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www .matronics.com/contribution > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >


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    Time: 06:50:57 PM PST US
    From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: camlocs on the bottom of cowl
    3 screws on each side, 650 hours, not even a remote issue.... besides, with a makita, it pretty quick.=0ADon McDonald=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A__________________ ______________=0A From: Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@mat ronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 8:14 PM=0ASubject: RE: RV10-Li st: camlocs on the bottom of cowl=0A =0A=0A=0A =0AI've used CamLocks on bot h pieces of the cowl. No problems to date.=0A=0A___________________________ _____=0ADate: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 20:32:10 -0400=0AFrom: flying-nut@cfl.rr.com =0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: camlocs on the bot tom of cowl=0A=0A=0ANo experience with camlocs on the bottom of lower cowl. - I put nutplates and screws all across the bottom.=0AI'm not flying yet but my reasoning was screws/nutplates are less=0A espensive and I alre ady have to crawl under the plane to unscrew=0A the bracket in the ram p so why not the ones on the side.- I think=0A the camlocs would get in the way as you slide the lower cowl in=0A place.=0AI did put camlo cs on the upper cowl and hinges down the sides.=0A=0ALinn=0A=0AOn 4/24/2014 8:20 PM, Chris Hukill wrote:=0A=0AI saw a post on VansAirforce about Camlo cs causing problems on the bottom of the cowl. I am installing the cowling on my RV10 right now with hinges on the side of the bottom cowl and camlocs on the bottom. My RV8 has hinges on the side and nutplates on the bottom, and I am very happy with the way the cowl slides aft and the hinges hold it up until I install the pins, a one man job. I was thinking that the camloc s might prevent that smooth installation because the camlocs would hang up the cowl from sliding aft. I can easily change now to nutplates. Can anyone give me any feedback on this configuration?=0A>Chris Hukill=0A>getting clo ser everyday=0A>No virus found in this message.=0A>Checked by AVG - www.avg .com=0A>04/24/14=0A=0Aist" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigat or?RV10-List=0Aank>http://forums.matronics.com=0Arget=_blank>http://www.m =====================


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    Time: 07:59:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Fuel lines
    From: "rvdave" <rv610dave@gmail.com>
    Just received and installed the Vans recommended fuel line from firewall to fuel pump and have a concern. First it fits a little tight and seems a little short but maybe clocking the fitting will cure that; 2) am concerned about the aluminum firewall thru fitting holding up through engine vibration and may change that to steel; 3) if the line is adel clamped to the engine mount will that eliminate concern about vibration to the fitting? -------- Dave Ford RV6 flying RV10 building Cadillac, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422349#422349


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    Time: 08:40:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel lines
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Stock setup has worked for 1,300+ hours here. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org www.mavericklsa.com C: 352-427-0285 O: 352-465-4545 F: 815-377-3694 Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 24, 2014, at 10:58 PM, "rvdave" <rv610dave@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Just received and installed the Vans recommended fuel line from firewall to fuel pump and have a concern. First it fits a little tight and seems a little short but maybe clocking the fitting will cure that; 2) am concerned about the aluminum firewall thru fitting holding up through engine vibration and may change that to steel; 3) if the line is adel clamped to the engine mount will that eliminate concern about vibration to the fitting? > > -------- > Dave Ford > RV6 flying > RV10 building > Cadillac, MI > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422349#422349 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:44:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel lines
    From: Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com>
    1. I went with TSflightline for all fuel lines for and aft of the firewall, so I can't speak to the length of Vans cable. 2. I replaced with steel fittings. Anplumbing.com 3. Shouldn't be an issue. I don't recall if I secured that line with an adel clamp or not. Just make sure that the line has some slack if you use an adel clamp. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 24, 2014, at 10:58 PM, "rvdave" <rv610dave@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Just received and installed the Vans recommended fuel line from firewall to fuel pump and have a concern. First it fits a little tight and seems a little short but maybe clocking the fitting will cure that; 2) am concerned about the aluminum firewall thru fitting holding up through engine vibration and may change that to steel; 3) if the line is adel clamped to the engine mount will that eliminate concern about vibration to the fitting? > > -------- > Dave Ford > RV6 flying > RV10 building > Cadillac, MI > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422349#422349 > > > > > > > > > >




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