---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/27/14: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:44 AM - Inverting Oil Cooler (Patrick Pulis) 2. 06:59 AM - Re: Inverting Oil Cooler (Kelly McMullen) 3. 07:19 AM - Re: Inverting Oil Cooler (Carl Froehlich) 4. 07:31 AM - Re: Inverting Oil Cooler (Cooprv7) 5. 08:16 AM - Re: Inverting Oil Cooler (Linn Walters) 6. 08:49 AM - Re: Inverting Oil Cooler (Carl Froehlich) 7. 01:05 PM - Re: Inverting Oil Cooler (Patrick Pulis) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:44:18 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Inverting Oil Cooler From: Patrick Pulis Has anyone contemplated or installed their oil cooler upside down compared to the Vans recommended standard installation, to enable residual oil to be drained from the oil cooler during an oil change, without the need to remove the cooler? Wanting to know if this is feasible or practicable please? Any photos would be appreciated please. Warm regards Patrick ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:23 AM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Inverting Oil Cooler Consider that you might create more problems than you solve. You would need longer oil lines, right angle fittings that could impede flow, and likely chance of trapping air in the oil cooler. On 5/27/2014 6:37 AM, Patrick Pulis wrote: > > Has anyone contemplated or installed their oil cooler upside down compared to the Vans recommended standard installation, to enable residual oil to be drained from the oil cooler during an oil change, without the need to remove the cooler? > > Wanting to know if this is feasible or practicable please? > > Any photos would be appreciated please. > > Warm regards > > Patrick > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:32 AM PST US From: "Carl Froehlich" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Inverting Oil Cooler In general, a liquid based cooler is discharged at the top. This forces the cooler to always be full before fluid leaves - as in the fluid media tubes are not bypassed and you do not have an air lock stuck at the top of the cooler. For the RV-10 I did not like the Van's bounce off the firewall then back at the engine air path. I used the Airflow 2006X cooler but did a horizontal firewall mount. Even on hot days I end up closing down on the air to cooler butterfly valve to keep oil temps up. Photo attached. Note the cooler also has a forward adle clamp attachment to the engine mount that is not shown in this photo. Carl -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:37 AM Subject: RV10-List: Inverting Oil Cooler --> Has anyone contemplated or installed their oil cooler upside down compared to the Vans recommended standard installation, to enable residual oil to be drained from the oil cooler during an oil change, without the need to remove the cooler? Wanting to know if this is feasible or practicable please? Any photos would be appreciated please. Warm regards Patrick ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:59 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Inverting Oil Cooler From: Cooprv7 I would also add that for as frequently as most people change the oil, it probably would not provide much, if any, benefit. Marcus 40286, 680 hours On May 27, 2014, at 9:58, Kelly McMullen wrote: Consider that you might create more problems than you solve. You would need longer oil lines, right angle fittings that could impede flow, and likely chance of trapping air in the oil cooler. > On 5/27/2014 6:37 AM, Patrick Pulis wrote: > > Has anyone contemplated or installed their oil cooler upside down compared to the Vans recommended standard installation, to enable residual oil to be drained from the oil cooler during an oil change, without the need to remove the cooler? > > Wanting to know if this is feasible or practicable please? > > Any photos would be appreciated please. > > Warm regards > > Patrick > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:16:40 AM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: Inverting Oil Cooler That's an excellent way to mount the cooler, but my exhaust hangars would go right through the fwd right corner of the cooler. Do you have a different way of mounting the hangars or a different exhaust setup??? Linn On 5/27/2014 10:18 AM, Carl Froehlich wrote: > In general, a liquid based cooler is discharged at the top. This forces the > cooler to always be full before fluid leaves - as in the fluid media tubes > are not bypassed and you do not have an air lock stuck at the top of the > cooler. > > For the RV-10 I did not like the Van's bounce off the firewall then back at > the engine air path. I used the Airflow 2006X cooler but did a horizontal > firewall mount. Even on hot days I end up closing down on the air to cooler > butterfly valve to keep oil temps up. Photo attached. Note the cooler also > has a forward adle clamp attachment to the engine mount that is not shown in > this photo. > > Carl > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:37 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Inverting Oil Cooler > > --> > > Has anyone contemplated or installed their oil cooler upside down compared > to the Vans recommended standard installation, to enable residual oil to be > drained from the oil cooler during an oil change, without the need to remove > the cooler? > > Wanting to know if this is feasible or practicable please? > > Any photos would be appreciated please. > > Warm regards > > Patrick > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:49:16 AM PST US From: "Carl Froehlich" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Inverting Oil Cooler I have the stock Van's engine and Vetterman exhaust. I did not have a problem but I remember cutting one of the exhaust mount threaded rods shorter so that it did not hit the bottom of the cooler. I looked for a photo with all the stuff mounted but the attached is the closest I found. Carl From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Linn Walters Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Inverting Oil Cooler That's an excellent way to mount the cooler, but my exhaust hangars would go right through the fwd right corner of the cooler. Do you have a different way of mounting the hangars or a different exhaust setup??? Linn On 5/27/2014 10:18 AM, Carl Froehlich wrote: In general, a liquid based cooler is discharged at the top. This forces the cooler to always be full before fluid leaves - as in the fluid media tubes are not bypassed and you do not have an air lock stuck at the top of the cooler. For the RV-10 I did not like the Van's bounce off the firewall then back at the engine air path. I used the Airflow 2006X cooler but did a horizontal firewall mount. Even on hot days I end up closing down on the air to cooler butterfly valve to keep oil temps up. Photo attached. Note the cooler also has a forward adle clamp attachment to the engine mount that is not shown in this photo. Carl -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:37 AM Subject: RV10-List: Inverting Oil Cooler --> Has anyone contemplated or installed their oil cooler upside down compared to the Vans recommended standard installation, to enable residual oil to be drained from the oil cooler during an oil change, without the need to remove the cooler? Wanting to know if this is feasible or practicable please? Any photos would be appreciated please. Warm regards Patrick ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:31 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Inverting Oil Cooler From: Patrick Pulis Many thanks guys. Warm regards Patrick > On 28 May 2014, at 1:18, "Carl Froehlich" wro te: > > I have the stock Van=99s engine and Vetterman exhaust. I did not ha ve a problem but I remember cutting one of the exhaust mount threaded rods s horter so that it did not hit the bottom of the cooler. I looked for a phot o with all the stuff mounted but the attached is the closest I found. > > Carl > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of Linn Walters > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:16 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Inverting Oil Cooler > > That's an excellent way to mount the cooler, but my exhaust hangars would g o right through the fwd right corner of the cooler. Do you have a different way of mounting the hangars or a different exhaust setup??? > Linn > > On 5/27/2014 10:18 AM, Carl Froehlich wrote: > In general, a liquid based cooler is discharged at the top. This forces t he > cooler to always be full before fluid leaves - as in the fluid media tubes > are not bypassed and you do not have an air lock stuck at the top of the > cooler. > > For the RV-10 I did not like the Van's bounce off the firewall then back a t > the engine air path. I used the Airflow 2006X cooler but did a horizontal > firewall mount. Even on hot days I end up closing down on the air to cool er > butterfly valve to keep oil temps up. Photo attached. Note the cooler al so > has a forward adle clamp attachment to the engine mount that is not shown i n > this photo. > > Carl > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:37 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Inverting Oil Cooler > > --> > > Has anyone contemplated or installed their oil cooler upside down compared > to the Vans recommended standard installation, to enable residual oil to b e > drained from the oil cooler during an oil change, without the need to remo ve > the cooler? > > Wanting to know if this is feasible or practicable please? > > Any photos would be appreciated please. > > Warm regards > > Patrick > > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > http://www.matronic================ > http://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web generous nbsp; --> http://www.matronics.com/c > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.