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1. 12:21 AM - Re: plastic protector (dhmoose)
2. 03:47 AM - Baffling Question (Patrick Pulis)
3. 03:58 AM - Re: plastic protector (David Clifford)
4. 05:02 AM - Re: Baffling Question (Jesse Saint)
5. 05:12 AM - Re: Baffling Question (Linn Walters)
6. 05:18 AM - Re: plastic protector (Linn Walters)
7. 05:29 AM - Re: Baffling Question (Patrick Pulis)
8. 05:46 AM - Re: Baffling Question (Kelly McMullen)
9. 06:48 AM - Re: Baffling Question (Linn Walters)
10. 07:41 AM - Re: Baffling Question (woxofswa)
11. 09:13 AM - Re: Baffling Question (Jackm)
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| Subject: | Re: plastic protector |
Not the answer you were looking for, but...I used some 20 mil pipe tape to outline
the area that I wanted the fiberglass to end on the windscreen. 20 mil tape
is very thick and durable which allowed me to sand down to it without fear of
hitting the plexi. The rest of the windscreen was just covered with the plastic
it came with from Desser...but that plastic is just there to prevent the random
bit of epoxy or other debris from touching or damaging it.
Learned the tape trick from Wally at Synergy Air.
D
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David Halmos
RV-10
Flying!
Portland, OR
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| Subject: | Baffling Question |
I am trying to fit the CB-1001A Front Baffle (Ref. Page FF2-14) which as shown
on the plans, should fit snugly over and around the MT P-420-3 propeller governor.
Vans sent me the MT P-860-3 propeller governor with my Firewall Forward kit, which
is now installed on my engine. This governor has a lip around the front which
prevents the CB-1001A Front Baffle from slipping over the governor.
I am tempted to cut the hole in the CB-1001A Front Baffle much larger, however
this will then mean that I will need to seal around the opening in the CB-1001A,
as once the baffle is over the front of the governor, the body of the governor
reduces in diameter, leaving about a 1/4" gap around the governor to the edge
of the hole in the CB-1001A.
Have I buggered up my interpretations of the plan, or does the new propeller governor
just not fit the CB-1001A baffle as was originally intended?
If so, what are people using to seal the gap between the propeller governor and
the CB-1001A.
After mucking around with these baffles, I can now see why people install plenums
in lieu of baffles!
I'd appreciate your assistance and any links or photos that could assist me please.
Warm regards and thanks in anticipation.
Patrick Pulis
Adelaide, South Australia
#40299
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| Subject: | Re: plastic protector |
You are probably thiking to this stuff referred to as "spraylat".
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/discoat4220plexiglass1.php?clickkey=9996
It's commonly used in the Rutan based construction of the Long EZ's and Cozy's
but most folks have moved away from it due to the difficulty in removal when everything
is done. What we used building the Cozy and what I used on my -10 was
common 3/4" wide electrical tape. It stretches to form curves very easily and
peels off leaving very little to no residue. Do about 2 width's of tape wide,
overlapping an 1/8", then follow up with a layer of duct tape on top of that.
Gorilla tape works very well and provides a good margin of safety from marking
up the glass from sanding and other cutting tools. The remainder of the transparency
can be covered in heavy 10 mill plastic.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Linn Walters" <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:12:00 PM
Subject: RV10-List: plastic protector
I'm getting ready to install the windshield and am looking for a product
to protect the plastic while I work near the edges. I have seen a
paint-on or spray-on latex that will peel off when the installation is
done .... but I can't remember what the product name is. Any ideas???
Linn
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| Subject: | Re: Baffling Question |
That part is always hard to fit. You can trim it as necessary and then seal it
(RTV works well). You could also use baffle seal to fill the gap.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
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> On Jun 22, 2014, at 6:47 AM, Patrick Pulis <rv10free2fly@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> I am trying to fit the CB-1001A Front Baffle (Ref. Page FF2-14) which as shown
on the plans, should fit snugly over and around the MT P-420-3 propeller governor.
>
> Vans sent me the MT P-860-3 propeller governor with my Firewall Forward kit,
which is now installed on my engine. This governor has a lip around the front
which prevents the CB-1001A Front Baffle from slipping over the governor.
>
> I am tempted to cut the hole in the CB-1001A Front Baffle much larger, however
this will then mean that I will need to seal around the opening in the CB-1001A,
as once the baffle is over the front of the governor, the body of the governor
reduces in diameter, leaving about a 1/4" gap around the governor to the
edge of the hole in the CB-1001A.
>
> Have I buggered up my interpretations of the plan, or does the new propeller
governor just not fit the CB-1001A baffle as was originally intended?
>
> If so, what are people using to seal the gap between the propeller governor and
the CB-1001A.
>
> After mucking around with these baffles, I can now see why people install plenums
in lieu of baffles!
>
> I'd appreciate your assistance and any links or photos that could assist me please.
>
> Warm regards and thanks in anticipation.
>
> Patrick Pulis
> Adelaide, South Australia
> #40299
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Baffling Question |
On 6/22/2014 6:47 AM, Patrick Pulis wrote:
>
> I am trying to fit the CB-1001A Front Baffle (Ref. Page FF2-14) which as shown
on the plans, should fit snugly over and around the MT P-420-3 propeller governor.
>
> Vans sent me the MT P-860-3 propeller governor with my Firewall Forward kit,
which is now installed on my engine. This governor has a lip around the front
which prevents the CB-1001A Front Baffle from slipping over the governor.
>
> I am tempted to cut the hole in the CB-1001A Front Baffle much larger, however
this will then mean that I will need to seal around the opening in the CB-1001A,
as once the baffle is over the front of the governor, the body of the governor
reduces in diameter, leaving about a 1/4" gap around the governor to the
edge of the hole in the CB-1001A.
>
> Have I buggered up my interpretations of the plan, or does the new propeller
governor just not fit the CB-1001A baffle as was originally intended?
I think you've got it right!
> If so, what are people using to seal the gap between the propeller governor and
the CB-1001A.
I haven't done it yet but I'm planning on a combination of fiberglass
sheet and the cowl seal material.
> After mucking around with these baffles, I can now see why people install plenums
in lieu of baffles!
I'm going to install a plenum .... I hate cowl seal. I also want to
convert the inlets to round ones. The reason I haven't done that
already is I'm on the fence with making my own or going the Sam James route.
Linn ..... just riveted on the fwd upper fuselage!!!
>
> I'd appreciate your assistance and any links or photos that could assist me please.
>
> Warm regards and thanks in anticipation.
>
> Patrick Pulis
> Adelaide, South Australia
> #40299
>
>
> -----
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: plastic protector |
Thanks David! I thought it was 'Spraylat' but Bing coughed up a paint
company .... and I just couldn't find it. The search engine in ACS
couldn't find anything either ..... used a bunch of keywords. I'll
probably do your suggestion. Thanks.
Linn
On 6/22/2014 6:57 AM, David Clifford wrote:
> You are probably thiking to this stuff referred to as "spraylat".
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/discoat4220plexiglass1.php?clickkey=9996
> It's commonly used in the Rutan based construction of the Long EZ's
> and Cozy's but most folks have moved away from it due to the
> difficulty in removal when everything is done. What we used building
> the Cozy and what I used on my -10 was common 3/4" wide electrical
> tape. It stretches to form curves very easily and peels off leaving
> very little to no residue. Do about 2 width's of tape wide,
> overlapping an 1/8", then follow up with a layer of duct tape on top
> of that. Gorilla tape works very well and provides a good margin of
> safety from marking up the glass from sanding and other cutting tools.
> The remainder of the transparency can be covered in heavy 10 mill plastic.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Linn Walters" <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
> *To: *rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:12:00 PM
> *Subject: *RV10-List: plastic protector
>
>
> I'm getting ready to install the windshield and am looking for a product
> to protect the plastic while I work near the edges. I have seen a
> paint-on or spray-on latex that will peel off when the installation is
> done .... but I can't remember what the product name is. =
> &=
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Baffling Question |
Thanks Linn
Warm regards
Patrick
> On 22 Jun 2014, at 21:41, Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>> On 6/22/2014 6:47 AM, Patrick Pulis wrote:
>>
>> I am trying to fit the CB-1001A Front Baffle (Ref. Page FF2-14) which as shown
on the plans, should fit snugly over and around the MT P-420-3 propeller governor.
>>
>> Vans sent me the MT P-860-3 propeller governor with my Firewall Forward kit,
which is now installed on my engine. This governor has a lip around the front
which prevents the CB-1001A Front Baffle from slipping over the governor.
>>
>> I am tempted to cut the hole in the CB-1001A Front Baffle much larger, however
this will then mean that I will need to seal around the opening in the CB-1001A,
as once the baffle is over the front of the governor, the body of the governor
reduces in diameter, leaving about a 1/4" gap around the governor to the
edge of the hole in the CB-1001A.
>>
>> Have I buggered up my interpretations of the plan, or does the new propeller
governor just not fit the CB-1001A baffle as was originally intended?
> I think you've got it right!
>> If so, what are people using to seal the gap between the propeller governor
and the CB-1001A.
> I haven't done it yet but I'm planning on a combination of fiberglass sheet and
the cowl seal material.
>> After mucking around with these baffles, I can now see why people install plenums
in lieu of baffles!
> I'm going to install a plenum .... I hate cowl seal. I also want to convert
the inlets to round ones. The reason I haven't done that already is I'm on the
fence with making my own or going the Sam James route.
> Linn ..... just riveted on the fwd upper fuselage!!!
>
>>
>> I'd appreciate your assistance and any links or photos that could assist me
please.
>>
>> Warm regards and thanks in anticipation.
>>
>> Patrick Pulis
>> Adelaide, South Australia
>> #40299
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> No virus found in this message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Baffling Question |
If you are on the fence, there is one more alternative that may be
better than Sam James: Showplanes RV-10 cowling....
http://tinyurl.com/ojlo6f5
No personal knowledge, just know it exists.
On 6/22/2014 5:11 AM, Linn Walters wrote:
> .... I hate cowl seal. I also want to convert the inlets to
> round ones. The reason I haven't done that already is I'm on the
> fence with making my own or going the Sam James route.
> Linn ..... just riveted on the fwd upper fuselage!!!
>
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| Subject: | Re: Baffling Question |
Thanks Kelly. Always good to have a couple of approaches. I already
have the Van's cowl fitted and just can't justify pitching it. I'm
enjoying the 'journey' and doing some mods to improve (I hope) the Van's
approach.
I didn't like Van's alt air ...... I know, you can reset it after
shutdown .... so I did this:
Because I can ......
I'd probably be flying by now if it wasn't for all the mods :-P
Linn
On 6/22/2014 8:45 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> If you are on the fence, there is one more alternative that may be
> better than Sam James: Showplanes RV-10 cowling....
> http://tinyurl.com/ojlo6f5
> No personal knowledge, just know it exists.
>
> On 6/22/2014 5:11 AM, Linn Walters wrote:
>> .... I hate cowl seal. I also want to convert the inlets to
>> round ones. The reason I haven't done that already is I'm on the
>> fence with making my own or going the Sam James route.
>> Linn ..... just riveted on the fwd upper fuselage!!!
>>
>
>
> -----
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Baffling Question |
I put a small piece of piano hinge on the back face of that baffle piece. That
allowed me to have a nice tight fitting around the governor and be able to open
the hole around the governor via the hinge to get it in and out easier.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. FWF complete.
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| Subject: | Re: Baffling Question |
Patrick.
Send email to jackm@vinetechequipment.com . I will reply with pictures of what
we did. Prop cable is also routed above engine and left heat input is on rear
right baffle. Prop cable above allows for better seal because you don't need to
cut ramp for prop lever clearance
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Jackm
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