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1. 06:05 AM - extra fuel in baggage (Chris Hukill)
2. 06:37 AM - Re: Extra fuel (bill.peyton)
3. 08:50 AM - Re: RV10 performance (Mike Whisky)
4. 09:19 AM - Re: Jae::::Re: Extra fuel (Jae Chang)
5. 12:28 PM - Re: Jae::::Re: Extra fuel (Danny Riggs)
6. 04:08 PM - Re: Extra fuel (Pascal)
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| Subject: | extra fuel in baggage |
I have a 20 gallon tank that fits thru the baggage door. I installed two
extra bag floor ribs to provide hard points to strap it down. The supply
and vent lines were plumbed in during the build. It=99s plumbed
the same as certified aux fuel systems, that is a pilot activated low
pressure boost pump at the tank sends the fuel thru a check valve and
into the left main tank, after you have burned enough out of the main
tank. The mission for the extra gas (Vancouver Island to Alaska, with no
fuel stops) no longer exists for me, but the system will be used for
tankering for fuel cost savings. I highly recommend that anyone
considering such a system take great care to insure the mounting of the
tank is secure (for abrubt stops). I=99m sure that can be
accomplished with bladders as well, but I wouldn=99t feel good
about just throwing a seat belt over one. I vented my tank overboard,
and I consider that a necessary design consideration as well. Anybody
that would like to see pictures of my installation, send me an email,
off the list.
Chris Hukill
finishing up the cowling
Even more #%!& fiberglass!!
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Here are some actual numbers out of my Garmin logs. All Ops LOP
D-ALT TAS GPH OAT % PWR
11K 164 10.2 -2.3 59
7K 167 11.5 -1 66
8K 167 11.8 10.5 68
10K 164 11 9 63
In most cases I can gain 10kts running ROP, but the FF rate is in the 14 to 16GPH
range. I flight plan for 11 GPH.
10 more Gallons would make this plane a bit more useful for those flights that
are right on the edge of it's IFR range. But I am not willing to carry fuel in
the cockpit to gain it.
Bill
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Bill
WA0SYV
Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: RV10 performance |
Here you go! During my climb performance test. I had to stop at 15k due to airspace
clearance. OAT -9C at MTOW 2700lbs still climbing with 350ft/min at Vy. CHT
gets quite high though.
Mike
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RV-10 builder (flying)
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On 6/25/2014 8:27 PM, Danny Riggs wrote:
> What are you using for a rear seat tank?
>
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS-Performance-Products/555/15505/10002/-1?parentProductId=837886
This is the fuel cell. KISS principle applies here.
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t'010
I don't have any good photos actually but nothing special. I started
with the thread above but bent my own tubing. I built a frame out of
wood (for now) for the tank to sit on and to secure it to. It's secured
into the airframe reusing the rear seat hinge and a couple of the
existing #8 screws around the seat area. Plumbed into the extra port on
stock vans valve. I used quick disconnects for all connections including
the external vent which is a must. I used extra plastic tubing to vent
to the wing root area similar to the main vent.
There are certainly many variations. However, even this simplest of
methods has worked out well. The one change i am contemplating is
converting the tank to a bottom outlet to minimize potential vapor
issues with the top draw.
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#40533 RV-10
First flight 10/19/2011
Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011
do not archive
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Thanks Jae!
I'm the RV10 builder you met on the shuttle bus from KAVX to Avalon harbor
a couple of years ago. Dan Riggs
> Date: Thu=2C 26 Jun 2014 09:18:26 -0700
> From: jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Jae::::RE: RV10-List: Extra fuel
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> On 6/25/2014 8:27 PM=2C Danny Riggs wrote:
> > What are you using for a rear seat tank?
> >
> http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS-Performance-Products/555/15505/10002/-1?parent
ProductId=837886
> This is the fuel cell. KISS principle applies here.
>
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=96010
> I don't have any good photos actually but nothing special. I started
> with the thread above but bent my own tubing. I built a frame out of
> wood (for now) for the tank to sit on and to secure it to. It's secured
> into the airframe reusing the rear seat hinge and a couple of the
> existing #8 screws around the seat area. Plumbed into the extra port on
> stock vans valve. I used quick disconnects for all connections including
> the external vent which is a must. I used extra plastic tubing to vent
> to the wing root area similar to the main vent.
>
> There are certainly many variations. However=2C even this simplest of
> methods has worked out well. The one change i am contemplating is
> converting the tank to a bottom outlet to minimize potential vapor
> issues with the top draw.
>
> --
> #40533 RV-10
> First flight 10/19/2011
> Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011
> do not archive
>
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just returned from a Fl to Ca trip. We did a 4.6 flight with 16 gallons
remaining on the LA to TX leg. This was a headwind flight and would easily
have made 1000 miles with a tail wind. 4 hours is very easy, but I have a my
injectors tuned for LOP so seeing 9.6 GPH at 12.5K is easily done.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Extra fuel
That's not really true. I've had numerous trips where my fuel burn
came out to 10.0gph for the entire flight. That's 6 hours of
total range, and I've never landed with less than 10.2 in the
tanks...but that was nearly 5 hours of flying when I did it.
It's plenty possible to come in with 45 minute reserves after
a 4 hour flight. The trip I just flew I averaged 9.2 to 9.8gph
once I reached cruise...so 4 hours very reasonable.
But, we do use the bottle.
Tim
On 6/25/2014 1:39 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> Unless you throttle back you aren't going to do 4 hours IFR and have
> required reserves. I understand the fuel in the cabin, although not sure
> it is much different than the fuel in the tunnel issue.
>
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