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1. 06:41 AM - Re: Extra fuel (johngoodman)
2. 06:56 AM - Re: Re: Extra fuel (Kelly McMullen)
3. 06:56 AM - Re: Re: Extra fuel (Tim Olson)
4. 07:21 AM - Re: Re: Extra fuel (Kelly McMullen)
5. 07:39 AM - Re: Re: Extra fuel (Tim Olson)
6. 08:29 AM - Re: Re: Extra fuel (Jesse Saint)
7. 08:34 AM - Re: Re: Extra fuel (Bill Watson)
8. 08:51 AM - Re: Re: Extra fuel (Jesse Saint)
9. 10:12 AM - Re: Re: Extra fuel (Deems Davis)
10. 10:37 AM - Re: Re: Extra fuel (Jesse Saint)
11. 11:09 AM - Re: Re: Extra fuel (Tim Olson)
12. 11:36 AM - Re: Re: Extra fuel (Bruce Johnson)
13. 11:41 AM - Re: Re: Extra fuel (William Greenley)
14. 11:51 AM - Re: Extra fuel (Bob Turner)
15. 12:02 PM - Jesse dad's stories being encouraging- was Re: Re: Extra fuel- (Pascal)
16. 12:12 PM - Re: Jesse dad's stories being encouraging- was Re: Re: Extra fuel- (William Greenley)
17. 12:20 PM - The building experience (Pascal)
18. 03:03 PM - oil cooler deflector (Chris Hukill)
19. 03:29 PM - Re: oil cooler deflector (Tim Olson)
20. 03:31 PM - Re: oil cooler deflector (Pascal)
21. 03:37 PM - Re: Re: Extra fuel (Patrick Pulis)
22. 04:01 PM - Re: oil cooler deflector (Bob Leffler)
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OK, I've got to ask...
When you have 10.2 gallons left in the tanks, are the Van's floats reading zero,
but the totalizer shows that much left?
John
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Or, when you get that low on fuel, do you want the fuel evenly divided
between tanks, or all in one tank? Which option gives better indication of
fuel remaining and is more likely to keep steady flow to engine?
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 6:40 AM, johngoodman <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>
> OK, I've got to ask...
> When you have 10.2 gallons left in the tanks, are the Van's floats reading
> zero, but the totalizer shows that much left?
> John
>
> --------
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>
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>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425579#425579
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Is this for me?
If so, then no. My floats read very far down before they don't read
anymore. I would bet that the floats still bounce around with 1-2
gallons left in the tanks. I don't remember exactly how low.
I know mine read fine down under 5 gallons. But, I would not
trust them to give exact readings that low. The totalizer,
however, is very very accurate. I usually fill within a just a
couple tenths of a gallon to what I see on the totalizer as
fuel burned.
I have taken both fuel tanks up, one at a time, and flown at
5000' above the airport, and ran them dry, then landed on the
other full tank and sumped out what was left. In the RV-10,
if you run the tanks dry in level flight, you'll only have
about 1-2 cups of fuel that you'll get out of the sumps.
So, most fuel is useable.....but that's level flight.
You may have worse luck with fuel unporting if you
are on descent as the fuel flows into the nose of the tank,
and you may unport quicker depending how you slip/skid
the ball. That's why I don't bother landing with minimal
fuel.
If I were to try to stretch the fuel a little further,
I don't know that I'd go less than 6 gallons, and if I
were that low, I'd much rather have 6 + 0 than 3 + 3,
because my guess is that you could unport fuel pretty
easily at 3 gallons...so I'd rather have one tank much
more full so that unporting isn't a problem on the landing
tank. But that would be more risk than I'd be happy to take,
so 5+5 is really more like what I'm comfortable with.
Tim
On 6/27/2014 8:40 AM, johngoodman wrote:
>
> OK, I've got to ask...
> When you have 10.2 gallons left in the tanks, are the Van's floats reading zero,
but the totalizer shows that much left?
> John
>
> --------
> #40572 Phase One complete in 2011
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425579#425579
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What is the alternative? 8^)
I agree with all your points. While I have landed a couple different planes
a couple times with 30 min fuel remaining, it is no where near as
comfortable as landing with 45 min to 60 min fuel remaining. Especially
when some planes have explicit placards of no take-off with less than 1/4
tank. I have always assumed that also meant a significant risk if a
go-around was necessary with less than 1/4 in that tank. Unporting is a
real problem if close to the ground. Fuel injected engines generally want
around 10 seconds to relight after fuel is restored, while carbureted
engines usually will relight almost instantly when they get fuel.
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
> That's why I don't bother *landing* with minimal fuel.
>
>
> Tim
>
>
> On 6/27/2014 8:40 AM, johngoodman wrote:
>
>> >
>>
>> OK, I've got to ask...
>> When you have 10.2 gallons left in the tanks, are the Van's floats
>> reading zero, but the totalizer shows that much left?
>> John
>>
>> --------
>> #40572 Phase One complete in 2011
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425579#425579
>>
>>
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I guess you're right....there aren't many options OTHER than
landing. :)
And I agree 100% with your comments.
I did find when I ran the tanks dry in flight that
the engine went from full power to idle and as fast
as I could turn the valve the power returned, so that
was a positive. I think that with the prop windmilling
the mechanical pump sucked in the fuel pretty quickly.
Regarding the landing with 1 tank with all the fuel,
or landing with split fuel that is minimal in both,
personally while I don't like either option, I think the
safer option is to land with one tank more full. I think
the unporting is a larger risk than the risk of running
one tank dry and switching to the full one for the
remainder of the flight. (as long as you've been
switching the tanks back and forth during the flight
so you know there isn't gunk or water that you're going
to get with that last switch)
If I were (and I won't) trying to go for max range,
I'd switch back and forth every x minutes during
the flight until I got to 10 gallons remaining in
one tank. Then I'd burn the other tank dry, and switch
to that 10 gallon tank for the rest of the trip.
I keep that in my hat for an emergency situation, but
I'm not going to operate that way on a normal x/c
flight, that's for sure.
Tim
On 6/27/2014 9:21 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> What is the alternative? 8^)
>
> I agree with all your points. While I have landed a couple different
> planes a couple times with 30 min fuel remaining, it is no where near as
> comfortable as landing with 45 min to 60 min fuel remaining. Especially
> when some planes have explicit placards of no take-off with less than
> 1/4 tank. I have always assumed that also meant a significant risk if a
> go-around was necessary with less than 1/4 in that tank. Unporting is a
> real problem if close to the ground. Fuel injected engines generally
> want around 10 seconds to relight after fuel is restored, while
> carbureted engines usually will relight almost instantly when they get fuel.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com
> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>> wrote:
>
> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>>
> That's why I don't bother _landing_ with minimal fuel.
>
>
> Tim
>
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I'm with Tim on that. Also, when one tank is dry, I trim the ball to the empty
side to reduce the risk if unporting the tank with fuel remaining.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
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> On Jun 27, 2014, at 10:39 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
>
> I guess you're right....there aren't many options OTHER than
> landing. :)
>
> And I agree 100% with your comments.
>
> I did find when I ran the tanks dry in flight that
> the engine went from full power to idle and as fast
> as I could turn the valve the power returned, so that
> was a positive. I think that with the prop windmilling
> the mechanical pump sucked in the fuel pretty quickly.
>
> Regarding the landing with 1 tank with all the fuel,
> or landing with split fuel that is minimal in both,
> personally while I don't like either option, I think the
> safer option is to land with one tank more full. I think
> the unporting is a larger risk than the risk of running
> one tank dry and switching to the full one for the
> remainder of the flight. (as long as you've been
> switching the tanks back and forth during the flight
> so you know there isn't gunk or water that you're going
> to get with that last switch)
>
> If I were (and I won't) trying to go for max range,
> I'd switch back and forth every x minutes during
> the flight until I got to 10 gallons remaining in
> one tank. Then I'd burn the other tank dry, and switch
> to that 10 gallon tank for the rest of the trip.
> I keep that in my hat for an emergency situation, but
> I'm not going to operate that way on a normal x/c
> flight, that's for sure.
>
> Tim
>
>> On 6/27/2014 9:21 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>> What is the alternative? 8^)
>>
>> I agree with all your points. While I have landed a couple different
>> planes a couple times with 30 min fuel remaining, it is no where near as
>> comfortable as landing with 45 min to 60 min fuel remaining. Especially
>> when some planes have explicit placards of no take-off with less than
>> 1/4 tank. I have always assumed that also meant a significant risk if a
>> go-around was necessary with less than 1/4 in that tank. Unporting is a
>> real problem if close to the ground. Fuel injected engines generally
>> want around 10 seconds to relight after fuel is restored, while
>> carbureted engines usually will relight almost instantly when they get fuel.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com
>> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>> wrote:
>>
>> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>>
>> That's why I don't bother _landing_ with minimal fuel.
>>
>>
>> Tim
>
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On 6/27/2014 9:40 AM, johngoodman wrote:
Strangely enough, up until recently my fuel gauges always show slightly
more fuel than I actually have and the totalizer slightly less.
Splitting the difference gave me the right number. Running with the
totalizer number gave me a safety factor.
The totalizer issue was due to placing the GRT unit in the Van's plans
location. It ran high when the boost pumps was on and who knows what
else. Relocating it to between the controller and spider makes it
amazingly accurate now.
My fuel gauges never show completely full tanks but they will show even
the slightest amount of remaining fuel sloshing about. I assume some of
this is a calibration issue with the GRT EIS but it works fine as is.
With 10 gallons left my approach is to have most of those in one tank
and to run off the other (and hard VFR with airports underneath). If
there's even a hiccup, tanks get switched and we are landing NOW. Not
my cup of tea and I haven't had a hiccup yet. I haven't run a tank dry
even for testing but did spend a year measuring things very carefully.
>
> OK, I've got to ask...
> When you have 10.2 gallons left in the tanks, are the Van's floats reading zero,
but the totalizer shows that much left?
> John
>
> --------
> #40572 Phase One complete in 2011
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425579#425579
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The floats hit the top of the tank around 24-26 gallons because if the dihedral.
If installed and calibrated correctly, they will read accurately down to very
close to empty.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 27, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 6/27/2014 9:40 AM, johngoodman wrote:
> Strangely enough, up until recently my fuel gauges always show slightly more
fuel than I actually have and the totalizer slightly less. Splitting the difference
gave me the right number. Running with the totalizer number gave me a
safety factor.
>
> The totalizer issue was due to placing the GRT unit in the Van's plans location.
It ran high when the boost pumps was on and who knows what else. Relocating
it to between the controller and spider makes it amazingly accurate now.
>
> My fuel gauges never show completely full tanks but they will show even the slightest
amount of remaining fuel sloshing about. I assume some of this is a
calibration issue with the GRT EIS but it works fine as is.
>
> With 10 gallons left my approach is to have most of those in one tank and to
run off the other (and hard VFR with airports underneath). If there's even a
hiccup, tanks get switched and we are landing NOW. Not my cup of tea and I haven't
had a hiccup yet. I haven't run a tank dry even for testing but did spend
a year measuring things very carefully.
>
>>
>> OK, I've got to ask...
>> When you have 10.2 gallons left in the tanks, are the Van's floats reading zero,
but the totalizer shows that much left?
>> John
>>
>> --------
>> #40572 Phase One complete in 2011
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425579#425579
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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I've been reading the threads on fuel and performance lately, and have
benefited from the discussions. One thing that struck me, is that we have
all come a LONG way, I feel like I "grew-up" airplane-wise with all of you
as we went through this RV10 journey together. From the early day's where
Tim led the 'revolt' to Matronics to the current discussions regarding
maintenance and operations. I've come to know many of you 1st hand and
count you as friends. I've owned 5 planes, a couple of them twins with
complex systems, logged lots of hours. But I have never had the
understanding on any of them that I have with the -10. I Thank you all for
contributing to that. We just finished our 6th annual trip from DVT to the
east coast. I love this airplane more each time we fly!
Give yourselves a hand of applause, You've come a long way!
Deems
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
wrote:
>
> The floats hit the top of the tank around 24-26 gallons because if the
> dihedral. If installed and calibrated correctly, they will read accurately
> down to very close to empty.
>
> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> www.mavericklsa.com
> C: 352-427-0285
> O: 352-465-4545
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 27, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 6/27/2014 9:40 AM, johngoodman wrote:
> > Strangely enough, up until recently my fuel gauges always show slightly
> more fuel than I actually have and the totalizer slightly less. Splitting
> the difference gave me the right number. Running with the totalizer number
> gave me a safety factor.
> >
> > The totalizer issue was due to placing the GRT unit in the Van's plans
> location. It ran high when the boost pumps was on and who knows what else.
> Relocating it to between the controller and spider makes it amazingly
> accurate now.
> >
> > My fuel gauges never show completely full tanks but they will show even
> the slightest amount of remaining fuel sloshing about. I assume some of
> this is a calibration issue with the GRT EIS but it works fine as is.
> >
> > With 10 gallons left my approach is to have most of those in one tank
> and to run off the other (and hard VFR with airports underneath). If
> there's even a hiccup, tanks get switched and we are landing NOW. Not my
> cup of tea and I haven't had a hiccup yet. I haven't run a tank dry even
> for testing but did spend a year measuring things very carefully.
> >
> johngoodman@earthlink.net>
> >>
> >> OK, I've got to ask...
> >> When you have 10.2 gallons left in the tanks, are the Van's floats
> reading zero, but the totalizer shows that much left?
> >> John
> >>
> >> --------
> >> #40572 Phase One complete in 2011
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Read this topic online here:
> >>
> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425579#425579
> >>
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I agree with Deems. I got started on the list with no pilot or mechanic lice
nse. Now I have both. I've learned a lot from this group and have enjoyed th
e journey.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 27, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
>
> I've been reading the threads on fuel and performance lately, and have ben
efited from the discussions. One thing that struck me, is that we have all c
ome a LONG way, I feel like I "grew-up" airplane-wise with all of you as we w
ent through this RV10 journey together. =46rom the early day's where Tim led
the 'revolt' to Matronics to the current discussions regarding maintenance a
nd operations. I've come to know many of you 1st hand and count you as frien
ds. I've owned 5 planes, a couple of them twins with complex systems, logged
lots of hours. But I have never had the understanding on any of them that I
have with the -10. I Thank you all for contributing to that. We just finish
ed our 6th annual trip from DVT to the east coast. I love this airplane more
each time we fly!
>
> Give yourselves a hand of applause, You've come a long way!
>
> Deems
>
>
>
>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wr
ote:
>>
>> The floats hit the top of the tank around 24-26 gallons because if the di
hedral. If installed and calibrated correctly, they will read accurately dow
n to very close to empty.
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>> I-TEC, Inc.
>> jesse@itecusa.org
>> www.itecusa.org
>> www.mavericklsa.com
>> C: 352-427-0285
>> O: 352-465-4545
>> F: 815-377-3694
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jun 27, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote
:
>> >
>> >
>> > On 6/27/2014 9:40 AM, johngoodman wrote:
>> > Strangely enough, up until recently my fuel gauges always show slightly
more fuel than I actually have and the totalizer slightly less. Splitting t
he difference gave me the right number. Running with the totalizer number g
ave me a safety factor.
>> >
>> > The totalizer issue was due to placing the GRT unit in the Van's plans l
ocation. It ran high when the boost pumps was on and who knows what else. R
elocating it to between the controller and spider makes it amazingly accurat
e now.
>> >
>> > My fuel gauges never show completely full tanks but they will show even
the slightest amount of remaining fuel sloshing about. I assume some of th
is is a calibration issue with the GRT EIS but it works fine as is.
>> >
>> > With 10 gallons left my approach is to have most of those in one tank a
nd to run off the other (and hard VFR with airports underneath). If there's
even a hiccup, tanks get switched and we are landing NOW. Not my cup of te
a and I haven't had a hiccup yet. I haven't run a tank dry even for testing b
ut did spend a year measuring things very carefully.
>> >
net>
>> >>
>> >> OK, I've got to ask...
>> >> When you have 10.2 gallons left in the tanks, are the Van's floats rea
ding zero, but the totalizer shows that much left?
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >> --------
>> >> #40572 Phase One complete in 2011
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Read this topic online here:
>> >>
>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425579#425579
>> >>
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It really has been a great learning experience for everyone,
me too. Some of the people I've met became like family.
The aircraft itself has been truly amazing and now I don't
know what I'd do without it. Coming from spam cans, there
really is no way I'd want to go back. I think many people
these days don't know what they're missing by NOT trying to
do things like build your own airplane. Do they really
think it's beyond them? Look at how many of us found out
that it really isn't.
It's also been really great that people like Deems and many
others have tried new things and shared their experiences
along the way. It's helped everyone to improve their
own plane.
It's really easy to see that those who've actually
completed their RV-10 can meet the spirit of the intent
of the Experimental Amateur Built category...recreation
and education....because it's that's what it's been
for me in a big way.
Tim
On 6/27/2014 12:11 PM, Deems Davis wrote:
> I've been reading the threads on fuel and performance lately, and have
> benefited from the discussions. One thing that struck me, is that we
> have all come a LONG way, I feel like I "grew-up" airplane-wise with all
> of you as we went through this RV10 journey together. From the early
> day's where Tim led the 'revolt' to Matronics to the current discussions
> regarding maintenance and operations. I've come to know many of you 1st
> hand and count you as friends. I've owned 5 planes, a couple of them
> twins with complex systems, logged lots of hours. But I have never had
> the understanding on any of them that I have with the -10. I Thank you
> all for contributing to that. We just finished our 6th annual trip from
> DVT to the east coast. I love this airplane more each time we fly!
>
> Give yourselves a hand of applause, You've come a long way!
>
> Deems
>
>
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Not sure on his how it would be, but on mine I adjusted the floats to the l
ower end. So when full they only read 23 or 24 gallons but are pretty accur
ate at the bottom.=0A-=0AGod Bless America=0A(please) -:)=0A=0A=0ABruce
=0A=0A=0AOn Friday, June 27, 2014 11:24 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrot
=0A=0AIt really has been a great learning experience for everyone,=0Ame too
.- Some of the people I've met became like family.=0AThe aircraft itself
has been truly amazing and now I don't=0Aknow what I'd do without it.- Co
ming from spam cans, there=0Areally is no way I'd want to go back.- I thi
nk many people=0Athese days don't know what they're missing by NOT trying t
o=0Ado things like build your own airplane.- Do they really=0Athink it's
beyond them?- Look at how many of us found out=0Athat it really isn't.=0A
=0AIt's also been really great that people like Deems and many=0Aothers hav
e tried new things and shared their experiences=0Aalong the way.- It's he
lped everyone to improve their=0Aown plane.=0A=0AIt's really easy to see th
at those who've actually=0Acompleted their RV-10 can meet the spirit of the
intent=0Aof the Experimental Amateur Built category...recreation=0Aand edu
cation....because it's that's what it's been=0Afor me in a big way.=0ATim
=0A=0A=0AOn 6/27/2014 12:11 PM, Deems Davis wrote:=0A> I've been reading th
e threads on fuel and performance lately, and have=0A> benefited from the d
iscussions. One thing that struck me, is that we=0A> have all come a LONG w
ay, I feel like I "grew-up" airplane-wise with all=0A> of you as we went th
rough this RV10 journey together. From the early=0A> day's where Tim led th
e 'revolt' to Matronics to the current discussions=0A> regarding maintenanc
e and operations. I've come to know many of you 1st=0A> hand and count you
as friends. I've owned 5 planes, a couple of them=0A> twins with complex sy
stems, logged lots of hours. But I have never had=0A> the understanding on
any of them that I have with the -10. I Thank you=0A> all for contributing
to that. We just finished our 6th annual trip from=0A> DVT to the east coas
t. I love this airplane more each time we fly!=0A>=0A> Give yourselves a ha
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I want to say that you guys are my source of inspiration. Every time I
look at the project and get discouraged by the amount of work still to
go, I read some of your logs and stories and am inspired. I also find
Jesse dad=99s stories very encouraging having worked in overseas
mission.
Bill Greenley
Starting to put the top on the fuselage, fiberglass here I come
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Extra fuel
I agree with Deems. I got started on the list with no pilot or mechanic
license. Now I have both. I've learned a lot from this group and have
enjoyed the journey.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 27, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
I've been reading the threads on fuel and performance lately, and have
benefited from the discussions. One thing that struck me, is that we
have all come a LONG way, I feel like I "grew-up" airplane-wise with all
of you as we went through this RV10 journey together. From the early
day's where Tim led the 'revolt' to Matronics to the current discussions
regarding maintenance and operations. I've come to know many of you 1st
hand and count you as friends. I've owned 5 planes, a couple of them
twins with complex systems, logged lots of hours. But I have never had
the understanding on any of them that I have with the -10. I Thank you
all for contributing to that. We just finished our 6th annual trip from
DVT to the east coast. I love this airplane more each time we fly!
Give yourselves a hand of applause, You've come a long way!
Deems
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
wrote:
The floats hit the top of the tank around 24-26 gallons because if the
dihedral. If installed and calibrated correctly, they will read
accurately down to very close to empty.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 27, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
wrote:
>
>
> On 6/27/2014 9:40 AM, johngoodman wrote:
> Strangely enough, up until recently my fuel gauges always show
slightly more fuel than I actually have and the totalizer slightly less.
Splitting the difference gave me the right number. Running with the
totalizer number gave me a safety factor.
>
> The totalizer issue was due to placing the GRT unit in the Van's plans
location. It ran high when the boost pumps was on and who knows what
else. Relocating it to between the controller and spider makes it
amazingly accurate now.
>
> My fuel gauges never show completely full tanks but they will show
even the slightest amount of remaining fuel sloshing about. I assume
some of this is a calibration issue with the GRT EIS but it works fine
as is.
>
> With 10 gallons left my approach is to have most of those in one tank
and to run off the other (and hard VFR with airports underneath). If
there's even a hiccup, tanks get switched and we are landing NOW. Not
my cup of tea and I haven't had a hiccup yet. I haven't run a tank dry
even for testing but did spend a year measuring things very carefully.
>
<johngoodman@earthlink.net>
>>
>> OK, I've got to ask...
>> When you have 10.2 gallons left in the tanks, are the Van's floats
reading zero, but the totalizer shows that much left?
>> John
>>
>> --------
>> #40572 Phase One complete in 2011
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When landing in a strong crosswind I try to draw fuel from the raised wing in the
side slip. If you run one tank dry there's a fifty-fifty chance you won't be
able to do that. Personally, I don't transition to a slip until well into the
flare, so it's not a big deal, but something to keep in mind. Especially if
a go around is needed.
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RV-10 QB
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Bill;
If you are encouraged by Jesse=99s dad=99s stories about
missionary.. you should watch the documentary/movie =9CBeyond the
gates of splendor=9D (if you haven=99t already) as a
missionary you will be inspired on the sacrifice made by the Saint
family and what has resulted in forgiveness and what is now an RV-10
=9Con the job training program=9D in Equador.
------------------
I want to say that you guys are my source of inspiration. Every time I
look at the project and get discouraged by the amount of work still to
go, I read some of your logs and stories and am inspired. I also find
Jesse dad=99s stories very encouraging having worked in overseas
mission.
Bill Greenley
From: Jesse Saint
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Extra fuel
I agree with Deems. I got started on the list with no pilot or mechanic
license. Now I have both. I've learned a lot from this group and have
enjoyed the journey.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 27, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
I've been reading the threads on fuel and performance lately, and have
benefited from the discussions. One thing that struck me, is that we
have all come a LONG way, I feel like I "grew-up" airplane-wise with all
of you as we went through this RV10 journey together. From the early
day's where Tim led the 'revolt' to Matronics to the current discussions
regarding maintenance and operations. I've come to know many of you 1st
hand and count you as friends. I've owned 5 planes, a couple of them
twins with complex systems, logged lots of hours. But I have never had
the understanding on any of them that I have with the -10. I Thank you
all for contributing to that. We just finished our 6th annual trip from
DVT to the east coast. I love this airplane more each time we fly!
Give yourselves a hand of applause, You've come a long way!
Deems
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
wrote:
<jesse@saintaviation.com>
The floats hit the top of the tank around 24-26 gallons because if
the dihedral. If installed and calibrated correctly, they will read
accurately down to very close to empty.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 27, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
wrote:
>
<Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
>
> On 6/27/2014 9:40 AM, johngoodman wrote:
> Strangely enough, up until recently my fuel gauges always show
slightly more fuel than I actually have and the totalizer slightly less.
Splitting the difference gave me the right number. Running with the
totalizer number gave me a safety factor.
>
> The totalizer issue was due to placing the GRT unit in the Van's
plans location. It ran high when the boost pumps was on and who knows
what else. Relocating it to between the controller and spider makes it
amazingly accurate now.
>
> My fuel gauges never show completely full tanks but they will show
even the slightest amount of remaining fuel sloshing about. I assume
some of this is a calibration issue with the GRT EIS but it works fine
as is.
>
> With 10 gallons left my approach is to have most of those in one
tank and to run off the other (and hard VFR with airports underneath).
If there's even a hiccup, tanks get switched and we are landing NOW.
Not my cup of tea and I haven't had a hiccup yet. I haven't run a tank
dry even for testing but did spend a year measuring things very
carefully.
>
<johngoodman@earthlink.net>
>>
>> OK, I've got to ask...
>> When you have 10.2 gallons left in the tanks, are the Van's
floats reading zero, but the totalizer shows that much left?
>> John
>>
>> --------
>> #40572 Phase One complete in 2011
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425579#425579
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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fuel-
I have seen it and greatly appreciated the message. I ran a bush
hospital in Rwanda and lost my entire staff in the Genocide. I knew many
of the perpetrators, so forgiveness is a challenge a struggle with
daily.
Bill
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 3:02 PM
Subject: Jesse dad's stories being encouraging- was Re: RV10-List: Re:
Extra fuel-
Bill;
If you are encouraged by Jesse=99s dad=99s stories about
missionary.. you should watch the documentary/movie =9CBeyond the
gates of splendor=9D (if you haven=99t already) as a
missionary you will be inspired on the sacrifice made by the Saint
family and what has resulted in forgiveness and what is now an RV-10
=9Con the job training program=9D in Equador.
------------------
I want to say that you guys are my source of inspiration. Every time I
look at the project and get discouraged by the amount of work still to
go, I read some of your logs and stories and am inspired. I also find
Jesse dad=99s stories very encouraging having worked in overseas
mission.
Bill Greenley
From: Jesse Saint <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Extra fuel
I agree with Deems. I got started on the list with no pilot or mechanic
license. Now I have both. I've learned a lot from this group and have
enjoyed the journey.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 27, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
I've been reading the threads on fuel and performance lately, and have
benefited from the discussions. One thing that struck me, is that we
have all come a LONG way, I feel like I "grew-up" airplane-wise with all
of you as we went through this RV10 journey together. From the early
day's where Tim led the 'revolt' to Matronics to the current discussions
regarding maintenance and operations. I've come to know many of you 1st
hand and count you as friends. I've owned 5 planes, a couple of them
twins with complex systems, logged lots of hours. But I have never had
the understanding on any of them that I have with the -10. I Thank you
all for contributing to that. We just finished our 6th annual trip from
DVT to the east coast. I love this airplane more each time we fly!
Give yourselves a hand of applause, You've come a long way!
Deems
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
wrote:
The floats hit the top of the tank around 24-26 gallons because if the
dihedral. If installed and calibrated correctly, they will read
accurately down to very close to empty.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 27, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
wrote:
>
>
> On 6/27/2014 9:40 AM, johngoodman wrote:
> Strangely enough, up until recently my fuel gauges always show
slightly more fuel than I actually have and the totalizer slightly less.
Splitting the difference gave me the right number. Running with the
totalizer number gave me a safety factor.
>
> The totalizer issue was due to placing the GRT unit in the Van's plans
location. It ran high when the boost pumps was on and who knows what
else. Relocating it to between the controller and spider makes it
amazingly accurate now.
>
> My fuel gauges never show completely full tanks but they will show
even the slightest amount of remaining fuel sloshing about. I assume
some of this is a calibration issue with the GRT EIS but it works fine
as is.
>
> With 10 gallons left my approach is to have most of those in one tank
and to run off the other (and hard VFR with airports underneath). If
there's even a hiccup, tanks get switched and we are landing NOW. Not
my cup of tea and I haven't had a hiccup yet. I haven't run a tank dry
even for testing but did spend a year measuring things very carefully.
>
<johngoodman@earthlink.net>
>>
>> OK, I've got to ask...
>> When you have 10.2 gallons left in the tanks, are the Van's floats
reading zero, but the totalizer shows that much left?
>> John
>>
>> --------
>> #40572 Phase One complete in 2011
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425579#425579
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | The building experience |
For those going through what I went through, my guidance came from Tim,
Deems for the building; Jesse for the panel and avionics guidance.. and Don
McDonald who took every call I made and sent me pictures and awesome
hardware to improve on some weaknesses I felt there was with the finish kit.
As Tim experienced, I have made some great friends who own RV-10's (and RV's
in general) and really had a life changing experience building the plane. I
felt, and did, make many mistakes but in the end I have flown well over 5000
miles in the plane thus far and it has flown beautifully.
I'm sorry (not really) but those who are missing out on the RV-10 experience
of building, meeting builders and maturing in a certain way, are really
missing out on one of my life's best times! When asked a few years back
about how excited I was to finally get the building done, I actually told
the RV group I loved the experience of building a custom kit with everything
I would want in a Cirrus and loved the building.. yes, its frustrating at
times and I dont think much about the fact that I built a plane, other than
I cant believe I actually did it and I would have had a harder time if it
were not for Tim, Deems and others on this forum.
In the end, anyone can build a plane, just dont miss the journey. If you
haven't met and spent time talking to other RV-10 builders, go to fly ins
and find local builders, my experience with Deems when in Arizona, a builder
2 hours away that took me for a flight and showed me his plane, and a
builder I met in Northern California when driving 10 hours to a fly in, who
would become my mentor and inspiration for the rest of the builder (thanks
Don!!).. all a journey.
Enjoy the journey!
Pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Extra fuel
It really has been a great learning experience for everyone,
me too. Some of the people I've met became like family.
The aircraft itself has been truly amazing and now I don't
know what I'd do without it. Coming from spam cans, there
really is no way I'd want to go back. I think many people
these days don't know what they're missing by NOT trying to
do things like build your own airplane. Do they really
think it's beyond them? Look at how many of us found out
that it really isn't.
It's also been really great that people like Deems and many
others have tried new things and shared their experiences
along the way. It's helped everyone to improve their
own plane.
It's really easy to see that those who've actually
completed their RV-10 can meet the spirit of the intent
of the Experimental Amateur Built category...recreation
and education....because it's that's what it's been
for me in a big way.
Tim
On 6/27/2014 12:11 PM, Deems Davis wrote:
> I've been reading the threads on fuel and performance lately, and have
> benefited from the discussions. One thing that struck me, is that we
> have all come a LONG way, I feel like I "grew-up" airplane-wise with all
> of you as we went through this RV10 journey together. From the early
> day's where Tim led the 'revolt' to Matronics to the current discussions
> regarding maintenance and operations. I've come to know many of you 1st
> hand and count you as friends. I've owned 5 planes, a couple of them
> twins with complex systems, logged lots of hours. But I have never had
> the understanding on any of them that I have with the -10. I Thank you
> all for contributing to that. We just finished our 6th annual trip from
> DVT to the east coast. I love this airplane more each time we fly!
>
> Give yourselves a hand of applause, You've come a long way!
>
> Deems
>
>
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| Subject: | oil cooler deflector |
Does anyone have any feedback on the affectivity of the oil cooler
deflectors. I=99m not convinced that I should install it, as Tim
Olsen says it actually raised his temperatures. Anyone else have
anything to report?
Chris Hukill
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| Subject: | Re: oil cooler deflector |
I don't think the theory is too bad on the device, but with all the variabil
ity between builders I don't know how actually effective it was for me. If i
t raised my temps it wasn't by much. I doubt you'll hurt anything by using i
t though.
Tim
> On Jun 27, 2014, at 5:03 PM, "Chris Hukill" <cjhukill@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any feedback on the affectivity of the oil cooler deflect
ors. I=99m not convinced that I should install it, as Tim Olsen says i
t actually raised his temperatures. Anyone else have anything to report?
> Chris Hukill
>
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| Subject: | Re: oil cooler deflector |
I have totally normal 190f-200f range with deflector. OAT temps are
90f-50f
From: Chris Hukill
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: RV10-List: oil cooler deflector
Does anyone have any feedback on the affectivity of the oil cooler
deflectors. I=99m not convinced that I should install it, as Tim
Olsen says it actually raised his temperatures. Anyone else have
anything to report?
Chris Hukill
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Us guys from the big island to the Deep South also thank you all for sharing
your experiences and knowledge. I could not have built this aircraft with s
uch confidence without you all. Thank you ever so much.
I'm hoping to catch up with as many of you as possible next year at Oshkosh.
Warm regards
Patrick Pulis
Adelaide, South Australia
#40299
> On 28 Jun 2014, at 3:06, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote:
>
> I agree with Deems. I got started on the list with no pilot or mechanic li
cense. Now I have both. I've learned a lot from this group and have enjoyed t
he journey.
>
> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> www.mavericklsa.com
> C: 352-427-0285
> O: 352-465-4545
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 27, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> I've been reading the threads on fuel and performance lately, and have be
nefited from the discussions. One thing that struck me, is that we have all c
ome a LONG way, I feel like I "grew-up" airplane-wise with all of you as we w
ent through this RV10 journey together. =46rom the early day's where Tim led
the 'revolt' to Matronics to the current discussions regarding maintenance a
nd operations. I've come to know many of you 1st hand and count you as frien
ds. I've owned 5 planes, a couple of them twins with complex systems, logged
lots of hours. But I have never had the understanding on any of them that I
have with the -10. I Thank you all for contributing to that. We just finish
ed our 6th annual trip from DVT to the east coast. I love this airplane more
each time we fly!
>>
>> Give yourselves a hand of applause, You've come a long way!
>>
>> Deems
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> w
rote:
>>>
>>> The floats hit the top of the tank around 24-26 gallons because if the d
ihedral. If installed and calibrated correctly, they will read accurately do
wn to very close to empty.
>>>
>>> Jesse Saint
>>> I-TEC, Inc.
>>> jesse@itecusa.org
>>> www.itecusa.org
>>> www.mavericklsa.com
>>> C: 352-427-0285
>>> O: 352-465-4545
>>> F: 815-377-3694
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Jun 27, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrot
e:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 6/27/2014 9:40 AM, johngoodman wrote:
>>> > Strangely enough, up until recently my fuel gauges always show slightl
y more fuel than I actually have and the totalizer slightly less. Splitting
the difference gave me the right number. Running with the totalizer number
gave me a safety factor.
>>> >
>>> > The totalizer issue was due to placing the GRT unit in the Van's plans
location. It ran high when the boost pumps was on and who knows what else.
Relocating it to between the controller and spider makes it amazingly accu
rate now.
>>> >
>>> > My fuel gauges never show completely full tanks but they will show eve
n the slightest amount of remaining fuel sloshing about. I assume some of t
his is a calibration issue with the GRT EIS but it works fine as is.
>>> >
>>> > With 10 gallons left my approach is to have most of those in one tank a
nd to run off the other (and hard VFR with airports underneath). If there's
even a hiccup, tanks get switched and we are landing NOW. Not my cup of te
a and I haven't had a hiccup yet. I haven't run a tank dry even for testing b
ut did spend a year measuring things very carefully.
>>> >
.net>
>>> >>
>>> >> OK, I've got to ask...
>>> >> When you have 10.2 gallons left in the tanks, are the Van's floats re
ading zero, but the totalizer shows that much left?
>>> >> John
>>> >>
>>> >> --------
>>> >> #40572 Phase One complete in 2011
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Read this topic online here:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425579#425579
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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| Subject: | Re: oil cooler deflector |
If you also put a damper vent to reduce airflow, you need to ensure the vent
is perpendicular to the deflector. Otherwise when the vent is partially c
losed, you'll only be sending air through half the oil cooler.
I don't have any comparison temps, but I'm not having problems with oil temp
s being high with the deflector
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 27, 2014, at 6:30 PM, "Pascal" <rv10flyer@live.com> wrote:
I have totally normal 190f-200f range with deflector. OAT temps are 90f-50f
From: Chris Hukill
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: RV10-List: oil cooler deflector
Does anyone have any feedback on the affectivity of the oil cooler deflector
s. I=99m not convinced that I should install it, as Tim Olsen says it a
ctually raised his temperatures. Anyone else have anything to report?
Chris Hukill
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