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Tue 07/29/14


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     1. 02:22 PM - ICAO Noise Test results RV-10 (Mike Whisky)
     2. 03:44 PM - Re: ICAO Noise Test results RV-10 (Bruce Johnson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:22:44 PM PST US
    Subject: ICAO Noise Test results RV-10
    From: "Mike Whisky" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
    This might not be of great concern of most RV-10 owners especially in the US but I consider this still an important environmental information for all the RV-10 owners. My RV-10 has been built and accepted under Swiss regulations and one part of it is the noise measurement certificate. Landing tax are based mostly on MTOW plus a charge for the noise class your aircraft is in. So it was of great interest to achieve the lowest noise class. As there was no data available about noise emission of an RV-10 I want to share my findings. The main noise sources are the propeller and the engine noise via the exhaust system. As prop tip speed is one factor I decided to go with a smaller diameter 3-blade MT (MTV-12B/193-53) propeller. The next factor is of course RPM which I reduced to max 2500. It is quite common for GA aircraft in Germany or Switzerland to have RPM reduced to 2500 in order to meet the maximal allowed noise requirements. The next thing is the exhaust system/muffler. There are special mufflers available like Liese which are quite common to muffle the noise even further, however I needed my baseline first to make the call to install them or not and to be able to define its required dB reduction. My RV-10 has the standard Vetterman 6-3 exhaust system and the above called 3-blade prop running max 2500 RPM. The test were conducted at MTOW 2700lb /1225kg. ICAO Noise Measurement Test Scenario ICAO Annex 16 Chapter 10 - Application accepted from 1988 onwards One measurement point take-off flight path with max. take-off power Noise measured in dB(A) The measurement crew on the ground takes a picture of the overflying aircraft to compare the logged overflight altitude reported from the aircraft with the measured results. At the same time it measures the noise. More factors are taken into consideration including wind, surrounding surface etc. I had to conduct 6 flights and the average noise values plus the correcting factors result in the final noise level in dB, which puts me in one of the noise categories mentioned above. To make a long story short my RV-10 achieved 77.8 dB which falls under category D, which is the lowest available. It is interesting to note that the only other RV-10, which went through the same test, is equipped with an two place Hartzell propeller (as well reduced to 2500 RPM) and Liese mufflers attached to the Vetterman exhaust pipes, achieved noise class C. Therefore it looks as if the propeller diameter and probably the tip form is a major contributor to noise. There might be other contributing factors such as sound insolation which might work as a reduction of resonance. For all the builders who are building under a regulation where noise reduction is a topic I hope that might help to consider propeller choice besides looks, ground clearance and weight. Michael -------- RV-10 builder (flying) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427526#427526 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/test_procedure_133.png http://forums.matronics.com//files/noise_category_166.png


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    Time: 03:44:05 PM PST US
    From: Bruce Johnson <bruce1hwjohnson@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: ICAO Noise Test results RV-10
    Another good reason to live in the USofA. Sorry for you Michael=0A-=0AGod Bless America=0A(please) -:)=0A=0A=0ABruce=0A=0A=0AOn Tuesday, July 29, 2014 2:33 PM, Mike Whisky <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> wrote:=0A =0A=0A=0A--> RV1 0-List message posted by: "Mike Whisky" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>=0A=0AThis mi ght not be of great concern of most RV-10 owners especially in the US but I consider this still an important environmental information for all the RV- 10 owners.=0A=0AMy RV-10 has been built and accepted under Swiss regulation s and one part of it is the noise measurement certificate. Landing tax are based mostly on MTOW plus a charge for the noise class your aircraft is in. So it was of great interest to achieve the lowest noise class.=0A=0AAs the re was no data available about noise emission of an RV-10 I want to share m y findings.=0A=0AThe main noise sources are the propeller and the engine no ise via the exhaust system. As prop tip speed is one factor I decided to go with a smaller diameter 3-blade MT (MTV-12B/193-53) propeller. The next fa ctor is of course RPM which I reduced to max 2500. It is quite common for G A aircraft in Germany or Switzerland to have RPM reduced to 2500 in order t o meet the maximal allowed noise requirements. The next thing is the exhaus t system/muffler. There are special mufflers available like Liese which are quite common to muffle the noise even further, however I needed my baselin e first to make the call to install them or not and to be able to define it s required dB reduction.=0AMy RV-10 has the standard Vetterman 6-3 exhaust system and the above called 3-blade prop running max 2500 RPM. The test wer e conducted at MTOW 2700lb /1225kg.=0A=0AICAO Noise Measurement Test Scenar io=0A=0AICAO Annex 16 Chapter 10=0A- Application accepted from 1988 onwards =0AOne measurement point =0Atake-off flight path with max. take-off power =0ANoise measured in dB(A) =0A=0A=0AThe measurement crew on the ground take s a picture of the overflying aircraft to compare the logged overflight alt itude reported from the aircraft with the measured results. At the same tim e it measures the noise. More factors are taken into consideration includin g wind, surrounding surface etc. I had to conduct 6 flights and the average noise values plus the correcting factors result in the final noise level i n dB, which puts me in one of the noise categories mentioned above.=0A=0ATo make a long story short my RV-10 achieved 77.8 dB which falls under catego ry D, which is the lowest available. =0AIt is interesting to note that the only other RV-10, which went through the same test, is equipped with an two place Hartzell propeller (as well reduced to 2500 RPM) and Liese mufflers attached to the Vetterman exhaust pipes, achieved noise class C. Therefore it looks as if the propeller diameter and probably the tip form is a major contributor to noise. There might be other contributing factors such as sou nd insolation which might work as a reduction of resonance.=0A=0AFor all th e builders who are building under a regulation where noise reduction is a t opic I hope that might help to consider propeller choice besides looks, gro und clearance and weight.=0A=0AMichael=0A=0A--------=0ARV-10 builder (flyin g)=0A#511=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.mat ronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427526#427526=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAttachments: =0A =0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/test_procedure_133.png=0Ahttp://forum - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, L =======




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