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1. 10:40 AM - Re: Re: Fuel senders (Rob Kochman)
2. 11:56 AM - Re: Re: Fuel senders (Ben Westfall)
3. 12:57 PM - Re: Re: Fuel senders (David Saylor)
4. 04:22 PM - Governor mounting stud question (Bob Leffler)
5. 04:46 PM - Re: Governor mounting stud question (Linn Walters)
6. 07:15 PM - Re: Governor mounting stud question (charliewaffles)
7. 07:54 PM - Re: Governor mounting stud question (Rick Lark)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel senders |
Weird they implemented it that way. My old Dynons alert you if the fuel
tank level changed since the EFIS was powered off.
"The fuel computer can be programmed in EMS > SETUP > FUEL > ADD THRESHOLD
to automatically detect the
addition of fuel while the unit is turned off. When this is configured, the
next time you turn the FlightDEK-D180 on, it
asks you if you added fuel and gives you a shortcut to the add fuel menu."
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
wrote:
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> Ya. Think I have mine set at 10 gallon difference right now. Maybe just
> increasing that will give me enough spread to reduce the warnings.
>
> Working on IFR approaches now and that damn warning causes undesired eye
> movement and interruptions after my uncoordinated turns. :)
>
> -Sean
>
> David Saylor <mailto:saylor.dave@gmail.com>
>> August 19, 2014 at 12:57 PM
>>
>> I adjusted the warning on mine for a pretty large difference, like maybe
>> 15 gallons. Still warns if I don't reset it, and less spam.
>>
>> "The system will give the audible warning =9CCheck Fuel Computer
=9D on
>> startup if the fuel computer=99s gallons remaining value
>> does not match the fuel tanks level. This feature (if turned on in
>> Instrument Calibration) should warn you if you have added
>> fuel and forget to adjust the fuel computer.*The number of gallons that
>> will generate an error is adjusted in Instrument *
>> *Calibrate*. Since the fuel levels are NOT accurate when the tanks are
>> near full this value is doubled when the tanks show
>>
>> full".
>>
>> That way I don't have to be reminded about my uncoordinated turns ;-)
>>
>> --Dave
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel senders |
My next question would be does the D-180 recognize a fuel imbalance any
other time than startup? I think the decision to alert based on
real-time changes is to identify the rare event of a tank issue in
flight.
-Ben
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Fuel senders
Weird they implemented it that way. My old Dynons alert you if the fuel
tank level changed since the EFIS was powered off.
"The fuel computer can be programmed in EMS > SETUP > FUEL > ADD
THRESHOLD to automatically detect the
addition of fuel while the unit is turned off. When this is configured,
the next time you turn the FlightDEK-D180 on, it
asks you if you added fuel and gives you a shortcut to the add fuel
menu."
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com
<mailto:sean@stephensville.com> > wrote:
<mailto:sean@stephensville.com> >
Ya. Think I have mine set at 10 gallon difference right now. Maybe
just increasing that will give me enough spread to reduce the warnings.
Working on IFR approaches now and that damn warning causes undesired eye
movement and interruptions after my uncoordinated turns. :)
-Sean
David Saylor <mailto:saylor.dave@gmail.com
<mailto:saylor.dave@gmail.com> >
August 19, 2014 at 12:57 PM
I adjusted the warning on mine for a pretty large difference, like maybe
15 gallons. Still warns if I don't reset it, and less spam.
"The system will give the audible warning =9CCheck Fuel
Computer=9D on startup if the fuel computer=99s gallons
remaining value
does not match the fuel tanks level. This feature (if turned on in
Instrument Calibration) should warn you if you have added
fuel and forget to adjust the fuel computer.*The number of gallons that
will generate an error is adjusted in Instrument *
*Calibrate*. Since the fuel levels are NOT accurate when the tanks are
near full this value is doubled when the tanks show
full".
That way I don't have to be reminded about my uncoordinated turns ;-)
--Dave
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Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel senders |
My guess--pure speculation--would be either that 1), AFS wanted a little
more distance--no shortcuts--between the gauges and the totalizer, or 2),
they didn't think of that.
--Dave
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote:
> Weird they implemented it that way. My old Dynons alert you if the fuel
> tank level changed since the EFIS was powered off.
>
> "The fuel computer can be programmed in EMS > SETUP > FUEL > ADD THRESHOL
D
> to automatically detect the
> addition of fuel while the unit is turned off. When this is configured,
> the next time you turn the FlightDEK-D180 on, it
> asks you if you added fuel and gives you a shortcut to the add fuel menu.
"
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Ya. Think I have mine set at 10 gallon difference right now. Maybe jus
t
>> increasing that will give me enough spread to reduce the warnings.
>>
>> Working on IFR approaches now and that damn warning causes undesired eye
>> movement and interruptions after my uncoordinated turns. :)
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>> David Saylor <mailto:saylor.dave@gmail.com>
>>> August 19, 2014 at 12:57 PM
>>>
>>> I adjusted the warning on mine for a pretty large difference, like mayb
e
>>> 15 gallons. Still warns if I don't reset it, and less spam.
>>>
>>> "The system will give the audible warning =9CCheck Fuel Computer
=9D on
>>> startup if the fuel computer=99s gallons remaining value
>>> does not match the fuel tanks level. This feature (if turned on in
>>> Instrument Calibration) should warn you if you have added
>>> fuel and forget to adjust the fuel computer.*The number of gallons that
>>> will generate an error is adjusted in Instrument *
>>> *Calibrate*. Since the fuel levels are NOT accurate when the tanks are
>>> near full this value is doubled when the tanks show
>>>
>>> full".
>>>
>>> That way I don't have to be reminded about my uncoordinated turns ;-)
>>>
>>> --Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *
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>>>
>>> *
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| Subject: | Governor mounting stud question |
It's after Lycoming's support hours. Does anyone know if the governor mounting
studs on a io-540-d4a5 go through the case?
I have an oil leak coming out one of the mounting studs of my governor. I've
replaced the gasket several times, but the leak is persistent.
I was wondering if oil is coming through the stud mounting hole. If it doesn't
go through the case, then that would eliminate that potential cause.
Hartzell is recommending that I use oil as a release agent this time as oppose
to installing the gasket dry.
Just attempting to determine whether or not it's a gasket failure or coming through
the stud mounting hole.
Thanks,
Bob
Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Governor mounting stud question |
Well ..... The hole for the stud may have been drilled into the inside
of the case, depending on which stud is leaking. R&R the stud is an
option, using Loctite as a sealer .....
You may have some luck drawing a little vacuum on the inside of the case
.... close off the vent and use the oil filler as a vacuum port .......
Clean around the stud and while you have the vacuum on, keep it wet with
laquer thinner to draw some inside to 'clean' the oil out, and then use
some green Loctite to seal it.
I've used the vacuum method on case leaks where the case halves meet.
Mostly successes.
Linn
On 8/20/2014 7:21 PM, Bob Leffler wrote:
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> It's after Lycoming's support hours. Does anyone know if the governor mounting
studs on a io-540-d4a5 go through the case?
>
> I have an oil leak coming out one of the mounting studs of my governor. I've
replaced the gasket several times, but the leak is persistent.
>
> I was wondering if oil is coming through the stud mounting hole. If it doesn't
go through the case, then that would eliminate that potential cause.
>
> Hartzell is recommending that I use oil as a release agent this time as oppose
to installing the gasket dry.
>
> Just attempting to determine whether or not it's a gasket failure or coming through
the stud mounting hole.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
> Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Governor mounting stud question |
I'm pretty sure the install instructions I had for the Hartzel Governor said to
use a release agent - and NOT to do it dry. I believe they specify dow DC-4 compound.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428934#428934
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| Subject: | Re: Governor mounting stud question |
Bob, my Lycoming had studs installed for a Hartzell governor, which I had
changed out to fit the MT governor. The engine builder told me the studs
were a "friction" fit, and could possibly need heat to be removed. Didn't
sound like locktite was needed.
I never asked whether the studs went all the way into the inner case but by
the way he talked in our discussions, I feel they do not.
Not much help but be careful if you try to remove that stud (hate to hear
of one getting snapped off).
Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>
> It's after Lycoming's support hours. Does anyone know if the governor
> mounting studs on a io-540-d4a5 go through the case?
>
> I have an oil leak coming out one of the mounting studs of my governor.
> I've replaced the gasket several times, but the leak is persistent.
>
> I was wondering if oil is coming through the stud mounting hole. If it
> doesn't go through the case, then that would eliminate that potential cause.
>
> Hartzell is recommending that I use oil as a release agent this time as
> oppose to installing the gasket dry.
>
> Just attempting to determine whether or not it's a gasket failure or
> coming through the stud mounting hole.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
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