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1. 06:06 AM - Main gear installation (bob88)
2. 06:22 AM - Re: Main gear installation (Ed Godfrey)
3. 06:36 AM - Re: Main gear installation (Linn Walters)
4. 06:37 AM - Re: Main gear installation (Sean Stephens)
5. 06:43 AM - Re: Main gear installation (Carl Froehlich)
6. 07:11 AM - Re: Main gear installation (Phillip Perry)
7. 09:48 AM - Re: Main gear installation (Rene Felker)
8. 12:17 PM - Re: Governor mounting stud question (rleffler)
9. 12:44 PM - Engine installation sequencing (bob88)
10. 12:44 PM - Re: Re: Governor mounting stud question (John Cox)
11. 01:02 PM - Re: Engine installation sequencing (Carl Froehlich)
12. 01:41 PM - Re: Engine installation sequencing (Ben Westfall)
13. 02:39 PM - Re: Engine installation sequencing (Bob Leffler)
14. 03:15 PM - Re: Engine installation sequencing (Linn Walters)
15. 09:41 PM - Re: Need QB wing plans (Tom Strickland)
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Subject: | Main gear installation |
Anyone have a great idea about how to raise the fuselage enough to install the
main gear legs? Currently I have it on a wood dolly about 18 inches off the floor.
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Subject: | Re: Main gear installation |
Bob,
I had a similar situation. I added some extra 2x4's to the bottom
of my dolly, so that I would have ground clearance for the landing gear
to the floor, since I will need to keep the plane on the dolly to get it
out of the garage. I then used some additional 2x4's and a 4x4 in the
front to get it high enough to insert the gear legs. I believe that I
had to go to 30" of ground clearance to insert them. I also needed to
remove the mid-seat-rail support to be able to insert the bolt.
Ed Godfrey
40717
On 8/21/2014 8:05 AM, bob88 wrote:
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> Anyone have a great idea about how to raise the fuselage enough to install the
main gear legs? Currently I have it on a wood dolly about 18 inches off the
floor.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428971#428971
>
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Subject: | Re: Main gear installation |
I placed a sawhorse under the rear fuselage .... as far fwd as I could
get it and used my engine hoist attached to the engine lift rings.
Inserting the gear legs was far easier than I thought it would be.
Linn .... fairing windshield
On 8/21/2014 9:05 AM, bob88 wrote:
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> Anyone have a great idea about how to raise the fuselage enough to install the
main gear legs? Currently I have it on a wood dolly about 18 inches off the
floor.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428971#428971
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Subject: | Re: Main gear installation |
No pictures, but I just lifted the fuselage up on top of my EAA style
workbench with the help of a couple strong backs. Was the perfect
height and width. After the gear was on, just lifted the tail up and
slid out the workbench.
-Sean #40303
> bob88 <mailto:marty.crooks@comcast.net>
> August 21, 2014 at 8:05 AM
>
> Anyone have a great idea about how to raise the fuselage enough to
> install the main gear legs? Currently I have it on a wood dolly about
> 18 inches off the floor.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428971#428971
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Subject: | Main gear installation |
Engine hoist strapped to the engine mount (nylon straps, not a chain). A
stand for under the tail once you get it lifted.
Without an engine the airplane will not be stable - so you need more than a
temporary tail stand if you are planning on delaying mounting the engine.
Even after engine mount if you still need to be crawling around the tail
cone a tail stand is recommended.
Carl
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Godfrey
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Main gear installation
Bob,
I had a similar situation. I added some extra 2x4's to the bottom of
my dolly, so that I would have ground clearance for the landing gear to the
floor, since I will need to keep the plane on the dolly to get it out of the
garage. I then used some additional 2x4's and a 4x4 in the front to get it
high enough to insert the gear legs. I believe that I had to go to 30" of
ground clearance to insert them. I also needed to remove the mid-seat-rail
support to be able to insert the bolt.
Ed Godfrey
40717
On 8/21/2014 8:05 AM, bob88 wrote:
>
> Anyone have a great idea about how to raise the fuselage enough to install
the main gear legs? Currently I have it on a wood dolly about 18 inches off
the floor.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428971#428971
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Main gear installation |
Just got a couple of guys and we lifted it up on top of the workbench. No
issues.
Phil
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
wrote:
> carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
>
> Engine hoist strapped to the engine mount (nylon straps, not a chain). A
> stand for under the tail once you get it lifted.
>
> Without an engine the airplane will not be stable - so you need more than a
> temporary tail stand if you are planning on delaying mounting the engine.
> Even after engine mount if you still need to be crawling around the tail
> cone a tail stand is recommended.
>
> Carl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Godfrey
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:22 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Main gear installation
>
>
> Bob,
> I had a similar situation. I added some extra 2x4's to the bottom of
> my dolly, so that I would have ground clearance for the landing gear to the
> floor, since I will need to keep the plane on the dolly to get it out of
> the
> garage. I then used some additional 2x4's and a 4x4 in the front to get it
> high enough to insert the gear legs. I believe that I had to go to 30" of
> ground clearance to insert them. I also needed to remove the mid-seat-rail
> support to be able to insert the bolt.
>
> Ed Godfrey
> 40717
>
> On 8/21/2014 8:05 AM, bob88 wrote:
> >
> > Anyone have a great idea about how to raise the fuselage enough to
> install
> the main gear legs? Currently I have it on a wood dolly about 18 inches off
> the floor.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
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> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428971#428971
> >
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> >
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Subject: | Main gear installation |
I had the same setup. Put it up on a 6 foot lifetime folding table from
Costco. Worked great...I sill have the table. Also used the table when I
did the gear fairings. Used blocks under the nose gear to level.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob88
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:06 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Main gear installation
Anyone have a great idea about how to raise the fuselage enough to install
the main gear legs? Currently I have it on a wood dolly about 18 inches off
the floor.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428971#428971
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Subject: | Re: Governor mounting stud question |
Just as a follow to my question. Per Lycoming, the studs do NOT go through the
case.
bob
--------
Bob Leffler
N410BL - Phase I
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
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Subject: | Engine installation sequencing |
I'm at the point of engine installation but have not yet riveted the upper forward
fuselage. I had hoped to leave this until after I get avionics installed 'on
the bench' instead of spending a lot of time on my back in the cockpit. The
question is whether the engine installation can be completed with the upper forward
fuselage off, or just clecoed in place.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429018#429018
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Subject: | Re: Governor mounting stud question |
To the age old question of lubricating valve cover gaskets. I intentional
left one au natural and the others got a combination of engine oil and DC4.
The Au Natural developed in immediate leak. Lesson learned, lube with DC4
as recommended and DO NOT overtorque the gasket thinking you know better
than the specs.
Check those gaskets!
John
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 12:16 PM, rleffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
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> Just as a follow to my question. Per Lycoming, the studs do NOT go
> through the case.
>
> bob
>
> --------
> Bob Leffler
> N410BL - Phase I
> http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
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> Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Re: Engine installation sequencing |
Or better option, design your panel to come out of the plane as an assembly.
At some point or another panel work will come your way, either a fix or the amazingly
frequent modifications that you will want to do. For the annual my first
step is to remove the panel for better access. Start to finish this only takes
10 minutes or so.
WRT engine mount I'm not sure if the upper forward fuselage makes a difference
or not. I had the fuselage 100% done before engine mount - including interior
paint.
Carl
190 hours and already on the second panel design.
> On Aug 21, 2014, at 3:43 PM, "bob88" <marty.crooks@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> I'm at the point of engine installation but have not yet riveted the upper forward
fuselage. I had hoped to leave this until after I get avionics installed
'on the bench' instead of spending a lot of time on my back in the cockpit. The
question is whether the engine installation can be completed with the upper
forward fuselage off, or just clecoed in place.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429018#429018
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Subject: | Engine installation sequencing |
Lots of people, me included, leave the upper fwd fuse removeable and proceed
to hang the engine. It makes some of the rivets a bit interesting to buck
around where the motor mount attaches to the firewall. I'm now wiring up my
panel on the bench and my motor is secured to the plane.
-Ben
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob88
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 12:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Engine installation sequencing
I'm at the point of engine installation but have not yet riveted the upper
forward fuselage. I had hoped to leave this until after I get avionics
installed 'on the bench' instead of spending a lot of time on my back in the
cockpit. The question is whether the engine installation can be completed
with the upper forward fuselage off, or just clecoed in place.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429018#429018
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Subject: | Re: Engine installation sequencing |
I riveted the upper fuselage assembly well after the engine was mounted and the
cabin cover was attached. It comes off pretty easily even with the cabin cover
bolted in place. I had it cleco'd in place to do the cowl.
It makes life much easier!
Bob
Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 21, 2014, at 4:40 PM, "Ben Westfall" <rv10@sinkrate.com> wrote:
>
>
> Lots of people, me included, leave the upper fwd fuse removeable and proceed
> to hang the engine. It makes some of the rivets a bit interesting to buck
> around where the motor mount attaches to the firewall. I'm now wiring up my
> panel on the bench and my motor is secured to the plane.
>
> -Ben
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob88
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 12:44 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Engine installation sequencing
>
>
> I'm at the point of engine installation but have not yet riveted the upper
> forward fuselage. I had hoped to leave this until after I get avionics
> installed 'on the bench' instead of spending a lot of time on my back in the
> cockpit. The question is whether the engine installation can be completed
> with the upper forward fuselage off, or just clecoed in place.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429018#429018
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Subject: | Re: Engine installation sequencing |
I did all the wiring and engine installation before riveting on the fwd
upper fuse, bolting down the cabin top, and riveting the aft upper panel.
I'm now working on the windows and windshield.
My panel is designed to be removable and the engine controls panel is
mounted to a fiberglass 'console' that's bolted to the tunnel. I did not
attach the engine control cables to the subpanel bracket .... in fact, I
removed the bracket. Seems like I can't resist doing things contrary to
the plans. :-P
Linn
On 8/21/2014 3:43 PM, bob88 wrote:
>
> I'm at the point of engine installation but have not yet riveted the upper forward
fuselage. I had hoped to leave this until after I get avionics installed
'on the bench' instead of spending a lot of time on my back in the cockpit. The
question is whether the engine installation can be completed with the upper
forward fuselage off, or just clecoed in place.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429018#429018
>
>
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> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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Subject: | Re: Need QB wing plans |
You may wish to call your congressman. Many times they can get things
noticed.
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich@verizon.ne
t
> wrote:
> All,
>
>
> Following up on my note about a Rhode Island Air National Guard C-130
> damaging my airplane, I=99m working with Van=99s to just orde
r a right Quick
> Build wing as the repair option. My RV-10 was a slow build so I have tho
se
> plans. What I don=99t know is what parts to order/delete from the
Quick
> Build order form as things like torque tubes, bell cranks, flap, aileron
> and wingtip will be reused from the current wing.
>
>
> If anyone has a PDF of the quick build wing plans I=99d appreciate
getting
> it.
>
>
> On my claim with the Air National Guard I=99m sad to report that th
ey have
> failed to step up. 100% of my communication with the Rhode Island Air
> National Guard Ops Boss has been me calling him. On the last call I was
> told they are taking no action and that I should just file an claim again
st
> my insurance policy (and thus eat the forever forward increase in my
> insurance premium). After a day of calls I finally broke the code to get
> into the Air National Guard command here in DC. I got a claim form to fi
ll
> out which I submitted earlier this week. The two voice mails I left aski
ng
> if they got my claim remain unanswered.
>
>
> Back when I wore the uniform accountability and leadership were still cor
e
> competencies. Based on this experience I conclude times have changed.
>
>
> Carl
>
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