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1. 05:46 AM - Re: SB Nose Wheel Report (bill.peyton)
2. 11:23 AM - Re: Re: SB Nose Wheel Report (Kelly McMullen)
3. 11:34 AM - Re: Re: SB Nose Wheel Report (Phillip Perry)
4. 11:44 AM - Re: Re: SB Nose Wheel Report (Tim Olson)
5. 12:43 PM - Re: RV-10 Fly-in and SB day in FL (Jesse Saint)
6. 01:38 PM - Re: RV-10 Fly-in and SB day in FL (David Jones)
7. 01:50 PM - Re: SB Nose Wheel Report (dmaib@me.com)
8. 02:53 PM - Re: SB Nose Wheel Report (Bob Turner)
9. 03:24 PM - Re: Re: SB Nose Wheel Report (Jesse Saint)
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| Subject: | Re: SB Nose Wheel Report |
I completed installation of the SB this last week. Approximately 2 years and 325
hours. I had installed two shims in the 325 hours flown thus far. All operations
were paved runways. No cracks were found, just a slight wearing of the powder
coat. I did note that slight abrasion was occurring on one side of the
strut where it was rubbing on the engine mount inside hole diameter similar to
what Tim O had noticed. I reinstalled strut using 1 1/2 shims with a 200 lb
preload at propeller. I also used a bead of high-temp RTV to attach the shim.
the entire shim was painted prior to installation
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Bill
WA0SYV
Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: SB Nose Wheel Report |
I'm curious why folks are choosing RTV over ProSeal to attach the doubler.
ProSeal has much stronger bond, is impervious to most oils and gas, which
RTV is not, etc.
I suppose those with QB wings might not have any on hand, but I would
expect everyone that did fuel tanks would have some left over. Making a 5
gram batch isn't hard, was just enough for the doubler...really a little
much with what oozed out.
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 5:45 AM, bill.peyton <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> I completed installation of the SB this last week. Approximately 2 years
> and 325 hours. I had installed two shims in the 325 hours flown thus far.
> All operations were paved runways. No cracks were found, just a slight
> wearing of the powder coat. I did note that slight abrasion was occurring
> on one side of the strut where it was rubbing on the engine mount inside
> hole diameter similar to what Tim O had noticed. I reinstalled strut using
> 1 1/2 shims with a 200 lb preload at propeller. I also used a bead of
> high-temp RTV to attach the shim. the entire shim was painted prior to
> installation
>
> --------
> Bill
> WA0SYV
> Aviation Partners, LLC
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430559#430559
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| Subject: | Re: SB Nose Wheel Report |
Good points.
I was thinking of a mechanical bond with #8 screws and possibly sealing with
proseal.
I don't have the parts, so I don't know if that's possible. Curious to hea
r if thats possible.
Phil
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm curious why folks are choosing RTV over ProSeal to attach the doubler.
ProSeal has much stronger bond, is impervious to most oils and gas, which R
TV is not, etc.
> I suppose those with QB wings might not have any on hand, but I would expe
ct everyone that did fuel tanks would have some left over. Making a 5 gram b
atch isn't hard, was just enough for the doubler...really a little much with
what oozed out.
>
>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 5:45 AM, bill.peyton <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net> wro
te:
>>
>> I completed installation of the SB this last week. Approximately 2 years a
nd 325 hours. I had installed two shims in the 325 hours flown thus far. All
operations were paved runways. No cracks were found, just a slight wearing
of the powder coat. I did note that slight abrasion was occurring on one s
ide of the strut where it was rubbing on the engine mount inside hole diamet
er similar to what Tim O had noticed. I reinstalled strut using 1 1/2 shims
with a 200 lb preload at propeller. I also used a bead of high-temp RTV to
attach the shim. the entire shim was painted prior to installation
>>
>> --------
>> Bill
>> WA0SYV
>> Aviation Partners, LLC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430559#430559
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| Subject: | Re: SB Nose Wheel Report |
I had proseal available from the RV-14 build, but, I still used
RTV.
Part of it was BECAUSE it has an easier bond to break, actually.
It will allow at least an easier possibility of removing the
part at a later date. It also is good for >500F in temp,
and I had it at the hangar. It's a very very thin layer
as you noticed, so gas/oil really won't be an issue either
way...and RTV is a sealer for oil pans and such anyway.
So I did it because it was simpler and quick. Also, if Van's
doesn't see a need to even secure it in the first place,
then sticking it together with RTV should be a big step
up from that. I don't see that Proseal would really
do any more for the situation other than be harder to
separate some day. In fact, the paint will probably
peel off before the proseal or RTV would anyway.
So in short, I just didn't see that it was necessary to
go that far.
Tim
On 9/15/2014 1:22 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> I'm curious why folks are choosing RTV over ProSeal to attach the
> doubler. ProSeal has much stronger bond, is impervious to most oils and
> gas, which RTV is not, etc.
> I suppose those with QB wings might not have any on hand, but I would
> expect everyone that did fuel tanks would have some left over. Making a
> 5 gram batch isn't hard, was just enough for the doubler...really a
> little much with what oozed out.
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Fly-in and SB day in FL |
We are planning for October 11. Hope to see you here.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Sep 11, 2014, at 2:21 PM, LEON EVERETT <leeverett@msn.com> wrote:
> Sounds great! I'd be interested. 2.7 hours from 2M2. Oct 4 or 11?
> Leon Everett
>
> From: jesse@saintaviation.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Fly-in and SB day in FL
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 07:26:42 -0400
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
> It's near Ocala in north Florida.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> 352-427-0285
> jesse@saintaviation.com
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 10, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com> wrote:
>
> Where is X35??!
>
> > From: rv10flyer@live.com
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Fly-in and SB day in FL
> > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:14:39 -0700
> >
> >
> > great idea Jesse! Sorry! done my Florida trip for the year, but I
would have
> > joined to finally make it out to X35.
> > Pascal
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jesse Saint
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 6:53 PM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Fly-in and SB day in FL
> >
<jesse@saintaviation.com>
> >
> > I have been wanting to do this for a while, and have done it in the
past. In
> > the next month or so I would like to have a day, probably a
Saturday, that
> > we can get a bunch of RV-10's together from the SE to our place at
X35. We
> > would plan to BBQ and hang out and talk RV-10's, but I was just
thinking
> > that it might be a great time to get people together to do the new
SB
> > inspections and fix, probably at least for no-cracks planes. Please
post
> > here if you would be interested in something like this and what day
or days
> > would work best in the next 4-6 weeks to do it. A plus is that we
have
> > equipment to powder coat and also have some spare parts for those
areas in
> > case they are needed.
> >
> > For those traveling further than comfortable for a single day, we
could
> > probably arrange either accommodations, or a place to camp, or a
ride to a
> > hotel as needed.
> >
> > Jesse Saint
> > Saint Aviation, Inc.
> > 352-427-0285
> > jesse@saintaviation.com
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Fly-in and SB day in FL |
Hi Jesse,
I will be returning from Kennebunkport, Me. on Oct. 18, so I will miss y
our Barbecue.
Mary Elizabeth went to your last one several years ago and really enjoyed. M
aybe some other time.
Best Regard,
David Jones
Cell: 941-661-4926
Sent from my iPad
> On Sep 15, 2014, at 3:38 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote:
>
> We are planning for October 11. Hope to see you here.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
>
>> On Sep 11, 2014, at 2:21 PM, LEON EVERETT <leeverett@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sounds great! I'd be interested. 2.7 hours from 2M2. Oct 4 or 11?
>> Leon Everett
>>
>> From: jesse@saintaviation.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Fly-in and SB day in FL
>> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 07:26:42 -0400
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>
>> It's near Ocala in north Florida.
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>> 352-427-0285
>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> Where is X35??!
>>
>> > From: rv10flyer@live.com
>> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Fly-in and SB day in FL
>> > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:14:39 -0700
>> >
>> >
>> > great idea Jesse! Sorry! done my Florida trip for the year, but I would
have
>> > joined to finally make it out to X35.
>> > Pascal
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Jesse Saint
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 6:53 PM
>> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> > Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Fly-in and SB day in FL
>> >
>> >
>> > I have been wanting to do this for a while, and have done it in the pas
t. In
>> > the next month or so I would like to have a day, probably a Saturday, t
hat
>> > we can get a bunch of RV-10's together from the SE to our place at X35.
We
>> > would plan to BBQ and hang out and talk RV-10's, but I was just thinkin
g
>> > that it might be a great time to get people together to do the new SB
>> > inspections and fix, probably at least for no-cracks planes. Please pos
t
>> > here if you would be interested in something like this and what day or d
ays
>> > would work best in the next 4-6 weeks to do it. A plus is that we have
>> > equipment to powder coat and also have some spare parts for those areas
in
>> > case they are needed.
>> >
>> > For those traveling further than comfortable for a single day, we could
>> > probably arrange either accommodations, or a place to camp, or a ride t
o a
>> > hotel as needed.
>> >
>> > Jesse Saint
>> > Saint Aviation, Inc.
>> > 352-427-0285
>> > jesse@saintaviation.com
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: SB Nose Wheel Report |
Started my nose gear SB last week and could not get the WD-1015 collar assembly
off. Tried hard for a couple of days, but it would not budge. Called Jesse Saint
over in Dunnellon at X35 and arranged to take the airplane to him this morning.
Jesse and his team finally managed to get the collar off. A bit of corrosion
on the top of the link assembly was the reason I could not get it off, as
we suspected. Anyway, no cracks. :D The whole job took just a bit over two hours,
which included removing and reinstalling the cowling. Jesse and his team
at Saint Aviation are excellent and I would recommend them to anyone needing some
professional help with RV-10 maintenance.
750 hours in 5 1/2 years
operated on hard surface most of the time. Most of the grass strips I have landed
on have been exceptionally smooth. The only exception to that is some transition
training I did for a couple of pilots that requested grass field work. I
used Pierson, FL, 2j8, and Bob Lee Strip, 1j6, near Deland, FL and they were
both pretty rough.
I have used the airplane for Transition Training for the past three years, so had
some concerns because of the high number of landings. (I have not kept track
of the number of landings on the airplane) Happy to report that the nose gear
was in great shape.
Jesse and I talked about the use of RTV on the doubler, and he, of course, said
it was up to me whether to use it or not. He has used it on the other airplanes
he has done. I elected to use it for the same reasons Tim Olson listed.
If you are in central FL, stop at X35 and visit Jesse. His operation is impressive.
Some of the cheapest 100LL in the area, as well.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL
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| Subject: | Re: SB Nose Wheel Report |
Dave,
Any particular trick they used to get the collar off? I recall that on installation
mine was very tight; I'm not looking forward to removing it.
Bob
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: SB Nose Wheel Report |
Maybe we should keep that between us. Actually, we pulled the nose gear, put a
pipe wrench on the hat and a rod in the bottom of the shaft and two guys were
able to "break" the corrosion, then it popped right off. We cleaned the corrosion
and greased it and put it back together. The pipe wrench made surprisingly
small nicks in the top of the hat, which we filed off and painted. We had a backup
in case it was damaged beyond comfortable reuse, but with the strength of
the hat, it was not enough damage to replace it. That is not the weak link in
the nose gear anyway (ask me how I know).
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
352-427-0285
jesse@saintaviation.com
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> On Sep 15, 2014, at 5:53 PM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Dave,
>
> Any particular trick they used to get the collar off? I recall that on installation
mine was very tight; I'm not looking forward to removing it.
>
> Bob
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