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1. 04:48 AM - the other nose gear issue (Chris Hukill)
2. 06:11 AM - Re: the other nose gear issue (bill.peyton)
3. 07:26 AM - Re: Re: the other nose gear issue (Danny Riggs)
4. 07:39 AM - Re: Re: the other nose gear issue (Phillip Perry)
5. 09:37 AM - Re: Re: the other nose gear issue (Danny Riggs)
6. 10:32 AM - Re: Re: the other nose gear issue (Pascal)
7. 02:31 PM - Re: SB Nose Wheel Report (Werner Schneider)
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| Subject: | the other nose gear issue |
I=99m not flying yet and have been holding off doing the SB until
the last minute as I am still waiting to hear from Vans about the OTHER
failure of the nose gear assembly. A couple of months ago, someone wrote
in about the failure of the welds of the vertical post to the gear leg,
down by the wheel. He wrote that upon a normal landing, the welds failed
and the wheel flew back into the fuselage and wing causing major damage
to the aircraft and engine. He inspected the welds and found improper
penetration of the welds, and sent the parts to Vans for analysis .
There has been no further comments on this issue from anyone on the list
or Vans. If there is going to be a need to remove, bead blast and
inspect/modify that portion of this Achilles heal, I only want to remove
it once. Has anyone heard any follow up on this issue?
here is the original post:
From: ibspud(at)roadrunner.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rusty RV-8 Steel Parts and other problems
Danny Riggs wrote: I'll
give you my tail of woe!
Last Sunday I was making a routine landing at my home airport and on the
ro
llout the nose gear departed the plane and then the gear strut stuck
into t
he pavement and when the plane continued over it folded up underneath.
It w
as a main gear landing at a slow speed. Prop strike=2C very badly
mangled f
irewall where the nose gear strut cut into it=2C big gouge on left
side whe
re the nose wheel hit fusalage and then into the left flap. All at low
spee
d. Gas everywhere. I was fortunate that it didn't roll over when the
strut
dug into the pavement. The insurance adjustor come out today and looked
it
over. His opinion agreed with me as to cause of accident. The gear strut
br
oke at the weld where it attaches to the upright spindle on the wheel
assem
bly. Looks to be a very poor weld and not a very robust design to boot.
The
weld was very small in width and didn't penetrate very deep. Split
right
down the middle of the weld=2C I wonder how many ticking time bombs
are out
there ready to blow off the nose gears. Not in a place to check very
often
either. Dan> Date: Sun=2C 13 Jul 2014 11:28:20 -0700
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| Subject: | Re: the other nose gear issue |
Was this an RV8 or 10?
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Bill
WA0SYV
Aviation Partners, LLC
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430714#430714
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| Subject: | Re: the other nose gear issue |
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| Subject: | Re: the other nose gear issue |
Sorry to hear about that and I'm sorry I missed it earlier. That's a
disaster.
Did you snap any photos before sending it back to Van's for analysis?
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com> wrote:
> RV-10. Happened about a month ago. Van's has been trying to blame me for
> it. Of course!! [image: Emoji][image: Emoji]Everybody that looks at it
> says its a lousy weld. At 34 hours of use nothing should be breaking even
> if landed hard a couple of time. (It wasn't). Think of all the Cessnas that
> have been landed on the nose gear repeatably by students with no breaks. I
> was really surprised when it happened as there had been no reason for it to
> fail. Dan
>
> > Subject: RV10-List: Re: the other nose gear issue
> > From: peyton.b@sbcglobal.net
> > Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 06:11:11 -0700
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
> >
> >
> > Was this an RV8 or 10?
> >
> > --------
> > Bill
> > WA0SYV
> > Aviation Partners, LLC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430714#430714
> >
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| Subject: | Re: the other nose gear issue |
After reading about Vic & Bill and his airport , I would think they
would have suffered the same demise as you did by now. Really sorry
about this happening to you Dan!
Bill and or Vic;
Please check that area of your gear for us and tell us what you see
since it=99s all apart anyway, as this is very concerning. I
really feel for you and the work needed to comply with the SB.
From: Danny Riggs
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 9:35 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: the other nose gear issue
Yeah I did.
Also had three A&Ps and two welding experts look at it. They all said it
was a bad weld. Disaster to the tune of $90k..
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Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: the other nose gear issue
From: philperry9@gmail.com
Sorry to hear about that and I'm sorry I missed it earlier. That's a
disaster.
Did you snap any photos before sending it back to Van's for analysis?
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com> wrote:
RV-10. Happened about a month ago. Van's has been trying to blame me
for it. Of course!! Everybody that looks at it says its a lousy weld. At
34 hours of use nothing should be breaking even if landed hard a couple
of time. (It wasn't). Think of all the Cessnas that have been landed on
the nose gear repeatably by students with no breaks. I was really
surprised when it happened as there had been no reason for it to fail.
Dan
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: the other nose gear issue
> From: peyton.b@sbcglobal.net
> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 06:11:11 -0700
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
<peyton.b@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Was this an RV8 or 10?
>
> --------
> Bill
> WA0SYV
> Aviation Partners, LLC
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430714#430714
>
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| Subject: | Re: SB Nose Wheel Report |
Thanks Bill,
interesting, your crack pattern is totally different to the others,
without disassembling you would not find it!
And I wonder, it seems the compression under load did crack inside the
dynafocal ring, so the plate will add some stiffness, but the load
transfer to the ring would only be fully covered by welding another ring
inside the dynafocal cup (like in the crack fix).
So for "non cracked" the same repair might be the better approach....
Time will tell and this will as well request a total disassembly of the
nose gear strut for inspection every then and now to detect your type of
failure...
Cheers Werner
On 13.09.2014 19:54, Bill Watson wrote:
> Nose Wheel Mount Status: Cracked at 3rd Condition Inspection. 4 donuts
> installed since first flight. There was play in link assembly when
> weight is removed from nosewheel
>
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