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1. 08:22 AM - Re: Button Lock vs Glide Free Control Cables (bill.peyton)
2. 10:00 AM - Flap Motor / Pos Sensor (Phillip Perry)
3. 10:16 AM - Re: Flap Motor / Pos Sensor (Pascal)
4. 10:19 AM - Re: Flap Motor / Pos Sensor (Carl Froehlich)
5. 10:45 AM - Re: Flap Motor / Pos Sensor (Jim Combs)
6. 10:49 AM - Re: Flap Motor / Pos Sensor (Bob Turner)
7. 10:56 AM - Re: Re: VA-144 Nose Gear Bushing (Linn Walters)
8. 11:01 AM - Re: Re: Flap Motor / Pos Sensor (Jim Combs)
9. 12:38 PM - Re: Flap Motor / Pos Sensor (Bob Leffler)
10. 01:54 PM - Re: VA-144 Nose Gear Bushing (bill.peyton)
11. 05:10 PM - Re: Re: VA-144 Nose Gear Bushing (Chris)
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| Subject: | Re: Button Lock vs Glide Free Control Cables |
I have done the same as Bob and am happy with the operation
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Bill
WA0SYV
Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Flap Motor / Pos Sensor |
I'm in the process of putting my flap position sensor in and I'm having an
issue where the extreme limits of the flap motor exceed the travel limits
of my flap position sensor.
Question: Once the flaps are rigged, does the flap motor travel to the
extreme limits? Or does it only hit one extreme and not the other?
Thanks,
Phil
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Motor / Pos Sensor |
I have my sensor near the wing root. The way it worked for me was I
drilled a hole closer to the pivot point, went from one extreme to the
other without an issue. You can determine the location and what it is on
the Panel setup later.
From: Phillip Perry
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 10:00 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Flap Motor / Pos Sensor
I'm in the process of putting my flap position sensor in and I'm having
an issue where the extreme limits of the flap motor exceed the travel
limits of my flap position sensor.
Question: Once the flaps are rigged, does the flap motor travel to the
extreme limits? Or does it only hit one extreme and not the other?
Thanks,
Phil
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| Subject: | Flap Motor / Pos Sensor |
First adjust the flaps linkage for full flap up position with the flap
motor (and sensor) in the full up position. Go to full down flaps using
the set points on the flap sensor rod and then verify they are in the
acceptable deployment range.
Carl
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillip Perry
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 1:00 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Flap Motor / Pos Sensor
I'm in the process of putting my flap position sensor in and I'm having
an issue where the extreme limits of the flap motor exceed the travel
limits of my flap position sensor.
Question: Once the flaps are rigged, does the flap motor travel to the
extreme limits? Or does it only hit one extreme and not the other?
Thanks,
Phil
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Motor / Pos Sensor |
It travels to the extreme limits.
On Oct 7, 2014 1:05 PM, "Phillip Perry" <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm in the process of putting my flap position sensor in and I'm having an
> issue where the extreme limits of the flap motor exceed the travel limits
> of my flap position sensor.
>
> Question: Once the flaps are rigged, does the flap motor travel to the
> extreme limits? Or does it only hit one extreme and not the other?
>
> Thanks,
> Phil
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Motor / Pos Sensor |
Full up, the flaps are against the aft spar and cannot move any further. But full
down, they can run to the motor limit if the little notch on the (standard,
accessory) flap controler fails. I'd make sure the sensor has enough range to
cover that possibility.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: VA-144 Nose Gear Bushing |
So it seems all we need to do is let them know ... sometimes.
Let me also comment on the 'Vans Bashing' ..... I doubt there's anyone
out there that expects any company to be perfect. As with any prolific
company and projects of this size there are going to be issues .... some
get handled in a timely manner and some don't. When they don't, we seem
to take it personally. I think my fiberglass cabin top is a real POS,
but I've dealt with it and within a month or so I'll be done with it.
the rest of the fiberglass parts seem to be fairly good ... so far .....
so I soldier on. My goal is to have my picture taken with the 'RV Grin'
and the issues I have have just slowed me down a little as I work
through them.
Linn
On 10/7/2014 2:05 PM, JasmineG wrote:
> Hello Linn,
>
> I will certainly pass along the word that the
> oversized bushing VA-144 should be in our
> catalog. Did you also need to place an order for
> the bushing? Please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jasmine
> Van's Aircraft
> Order Dept.
>
> On 5 Oct 2014 at 21:00, Linn Walters wrote:
>
>> With more need for the oversize bushing it seems like they should put it
>> in the online catalog.
>>
>> BUSH-ST 313X780X1.563
>> R0 VA-144 OVSZ
>> OVERSIZED BUSHING
>>
>> Linn
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Motor / Pos Sensor |
Full up the FLAPS themselves should be adjusted to be up against the aft
spar. The flap motor will reach its limit and continue to run. Don't
adjust the flaps such that the flap motor is still trying to move the flaps
any further. The motor must be allowed to free run without significant
binding.
Full down the flap motor will also be at its limits but will continue to
run.
The above statements apply to a system that does not have flap position
system. The flap system should be adjusted assuming one or more flap limit
switches can / will fail and the system will continue to drive the flap
motor.
Jim Combs
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
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> Full up, the flaps are against the aft spar and cannot move any further.
> But full down, they can run to the motor limit if the little notch on the
> (standard, accessory) flap controler fails. I'd make sure the sensor has
> enough range to cover that possibility.
>
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> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431613#431613
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Motor / Pos Sensor |
It will hit both and pop the breaker if left to run.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 7, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm in the process of putting my flap position sensor in and I'm having an i
ssue where the extreme limits of the flap motor exceed the travel limits of m
y flap position sensor.
Question: Once the flaps are rigged, does the flap motor travel to the extre
me limits? Or does it only hit one extreme and not the other?
Thanks,
Phil
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| Subject: | Re: VA-144 Nose Gear Bushing |
I decided to take the nose gear apart today to actually measure the VA144 bushing
and respective assembly.
Both of the VA-144 bushings measured .730" OD. The VA-143 bushing measured .733
OD. The ID of the tubing on the engine mount was .760 for both areas.
I spoke with Ken at Vans. The drawing calls out material of 4130/40 and an OD
no greater than .750 with no tolerance given. Ken was nice enough to go to the
parts bin and measure new stock -144 and -143 bushings. The measurements ranged
from .746" to .748" OD for both.
>From the above data one can conclude that either the bushings on my gear have
worn almost .020" in 300 hours of use (impossible in my opinion), or Vans had
a bad batch at some point in time.
I ordered both the oversize (.780" OD) and the standard size bushing for both the
-143 and -144 to experiment with. I strongly suggest that this be checked
as part of the service bulletin for the nose strut.
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Bill
WA0SYV
Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: VA-144 Nose Gear Bushing |
I could not find my notes from last march when i dealt with this but .757 rings
a bell for the size bushing i ended up with after machining the oversize down
to fit my engine mount.
- Chris
N919AR
----- Original Message -----
From: bill.peyton <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:53:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: RV10-List: Re: VA-144 Nose Gear Bushing
I decided to take the nose gear apart today to actually measure the VA144 bushing
and respective assembly.
Both of the VA-144 bushings measured .730" OD. The VA-143 bushing measured .733
OD. The ID of the tubing on the engine mount was .760 for both areas.
I spoke with Ken at Vans. The drawing calls out material of 4130/40 and an OD no
greater than .750 with no tolerance given. Ken was nice enough to go to the
parts bin and measure new stock -144 and -143 bushings. The measurements ranged
from .746" to .748" OD for both.
>From the above data one can conclude that either the bushings on my gear have
worn almost .020" in 300 hours of use (impossible in my opinion), or Vans had
a bad batch at some point in time.
I ordered both the oversize (.780" OD) and the standard size bushing for both the
-143 and -144 to experiment with. I strongly suggest that this be checked as
part of the service bulletin for the nose strut.
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Bill
WA0SYV
Aviation Partners, LLC
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431619#431619
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