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Sat 11/15/14


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 02:28 AM - Re: Panel planning (bill.peyton)
     2. 06:44 AM - Re: Panel planning (Bill Watson)
     3. 02:47 PM - Re: Panel planning (Bob Turner)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:28:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Panel planning
    From: "bill.peyton" <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net>
    Early on I had full and selected EFIS failures and reboots multiple times, one specific one in full IMC. I fully believe that those software bugs have been found and fixed, and I have not had one in over a year 250 hours. So yes, they happen. Don't kid yourself. I agree with Tim, I frequently practice approaches and hand flying with just the backup D6, and it is extremely difficult to fly the plane and set up the GPS to shoot an approach due to the panel layout (D6 way over on left) and it's size. If it happened for real in IMC I would have approach vector me. So define your mission and then define your panel around that mission. -------- Bill WA0SYV Aviation Partners, LLC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433770#433770


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    Time: 06:44:12 AM PST US
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Panel planning
    Zero failures or problem from bugs on my (3) GRT HXs - 3 years and 500+ hours. Plenty of IFR. I don't care for the dual brand EFIS thing either. I use an ADI and some small round guages for basic backup, I can keep it upright with that. The Trutrak AP is a very capable backup as well. Though the 3 systems run the same software, they do run independently from a HW failure standpoint. Dual Batts, dual alts, dual bus, dual AHRS, 3 screens and 3 or 4 GPSs feels good. Having the juice to run the doo-whizzies is pretty important. On 11/14/2014 10:09 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > I'm curious, since I know of very little data on the subject. How many > of you have experienced, or know of an EFIS problem from a software > bug in the past say 3 years? During the early years of experimental > EFIS systems I'm sure the concern of dual EFIS having dual failure > from software bugs was a real concern. At least one vendor recently > asserted to me that it really isn't a problem anymore. I've seen > nothing to support either side of the discussion. That said, I'd sure > want to put some VFR testing time behind any firmware revision before > launching IFR to depend on anybody's EFIS. > > On 11/14/2014 7:14 AM, DLM wrote: >> >> For IFR, I think two independent systems are necessary. >> >


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    Time: 02:47:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Panel planning
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    My backup is a Dynon D6, and while you might call it an EFIS there is no button pushing except to change the altimeter setting. I consider it functionally equivalent to a 6-pack of round gauges. I've done practice VOR approaches under the hood using nothing but the D6 and a handheld VOR (Sportys). Workload is high due to having to (figuratively) close my eyes and visualize the digital radial readout as an RMI bearing. But it can be done. Using the iPad (I use WingX) is easier. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433794#433794




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