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1. 04:51 AM - Re: Latest Parking brake victim (Jesse Saint)
2. 05:34 AM - Red cube fire sleeve (rvdave)
3. 06:04 AM - Re: Red cube fire sleeve (Sean Stephens)
4. 06:51 AM - Re: Latest Parking brake victim (Kelly McMullen)
5. 07:12 AM - Re: Red cube fire sleeve (rvdave)
6. 08:13 AM - Plasma III - Cooling Port (Phillip Perry)
7. 08:43 AM - Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port (Linn Walters)
8. 10:08 AM - Re: Latest Parking brake victim (woxofswa)
9. 10:10 AM - Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port (Tim Olson)
10. 10:23 AM - Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port (Phillip Perry)
11. 12:49 PM - Re: Red cube fire sleeve (woxofswa)
12. 01:12 PM - Re: Re: Red cube fire sleeve (Kelly McMullen)
13. 04:12 PM - Re: Red cube fire sleeve (rvdave)
14. 04:23 PM - Re: Re: Red cube fire sleeve (Shannon Hicks)
15. 05:04 PM - Antisplataero gust lock review (Pascal)
16. 05:26 PM - Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port (RV10@TEXASRV10.COM)
17. 06:08 PM - Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port (Kelly McMullen)
18. 06:29 PM - Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port (Linn Walters)
19. 06:34 PM - Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port (hotwheels)
20. 08:04 PM - Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port (Rick Lark)
21. 08:33 PM - Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port (Justin Jones)
22. 08:35 PM - Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port (Tim Olson)
23. 08:59 PM - Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port (Phillip Perry)
24. 09:07 PM - Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port (Kelly McMullen)
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| Subject: | Re: Latest Parking brake victim |
My 12-year-old is a good wrench, and he's small for his age. Where do I ship
him?
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 4, 2014, at 11:23 PM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Kelly,
>
> Can you wait 6 years? I'll start starving and training him today and he s
hould be perfect by the time he's 10.
>
> Phil
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Less than 24 hours after bleeding my brakes I was seeing a drip or two fr
om the infamous Matco parking brake, even though I have only applied foot pr
essure to the brake pedals for less than 10 seconds total.
>> Any body got a mechanically competent, slightly malnourished 10 yr old fo
r rent? ;-)
>
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| Subject: | Red cube fire sleeve |
I bought a piece of the largest Aeroquip Sleeve i could find which is a -24 and
is a little too tight to get on. What are others using to heat protect the cube?
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Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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| Subject: | Re: Red cube fire sleeve |
Here's what I used.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/gbfireslvft.php
-Sean #40303 (cleaning up dust from fitting main wheel pants)
> rvdave <mailto:rv610dave@gmail.com>
> December 5, 2014 at 7:32 AM
>
> I bought a piece of the largest Aeroquip Sleeve i could find which is
> a -24 and is a little too tight to get on. What are others using to
> heat protect the cube?
>
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> Dave Ford
> RV6 flying
> RV10 building
> Cadillac, MI
>
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| Subject: | Re: Latest Parking brake victim |
Thanks Jesse. I'll let you know, unless I get twisted into a pretzel and
can't get out from under the panel.
One would think that Matco would figure out by now what the issue is,
and fix it. I understand that an AN3 bolt used is really a little too
large and causes the pieces to spread apart just enough to allow
leakage. It appears that Matco has been good about fixing the units, but
the hassle of removing and reinstalling isn't improving their marketing
image.
On 12/5/2014 5:49 AM, Jesse Saint wrote:
> My 12-year-old is a good wrench, and he's small for his age. Where do
> I ship him?
>
> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org>
> www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org>
> www.mavericklsa.com <http://www.mavericklsa.com>
> C: 352-427-0285
> O: 352-465-4545
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 4, 2014, at 11:23 PM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com
> <mailto:philperry9@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Kelly,
>>
>> Can you wait 6 years? I'll start starving and training him today
>> and he should be perfect by the time he's 10.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> Do Not Archive
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com
>> <mailto:apilot2@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Less than 24 hours after bleeding my brakes I was seeing a drip or
>>> two from the infamous Matco parking brake, even though I have only
>>> applied foot pressure to the brake pedals for less than 10 seconds
>>> total.
>>> Any body got a mechanically competent, slightly malnourished 10 yr
>>> old for rent? ;-)
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| Subject: | Re: Red cube fire sleeve |
Duh! How easy is that -- surely overlooked seeing the obvious.
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Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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| Subject: | Plasma III - Cooling Port |
Apologies for this, but I'm about 200 miles from the airplane and ordering
parts.
Do any of you recall the size of the cooling port on the Lightspeed Plasma
III? The dimensions for the port are not included in their documentation.
The question above is the most important one...
But I'd also be curious to know if any of you have found a way to provide
reliable cooling air with a more commercialized (think Mouser, Digikey,
etc) blower. Right now I'm leaning toward shelling out a few hundred
dollars to Aircraft Spruce for an avionics blower.
Phil
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| Subject: | Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port |
The flat, square, computer fans won't be much good since they don't
produce much pressure .... they're made to move the hot air away from a
spot source. However, you can get 12V squirrel cage fans ..... used on
larger computers .... on EBAY .... search '12v squirrel cage fan'.
Linn
On 12/5/2014 11:11 AM, Phillip Perry wrote:
> Apologies for this, but I'm about 200 miles from the airplane and
> ordering parts.
>
> Do any of you recall the size of the cooling port on the Lightspeed
> Plasma III? The dimensions for the port are not included in their
> documentation.
>
> The question above is the most important one...
>
> But I'd also be curious to know if any of you have found a way to
> provide reliable cooling air with a more commercialized (think Mouser,
> Digikey, etc) blower. Right now I'm leaning toward shelling out a few
> hundred dollars to Aircraft Spruce for an avionics blower.
>
> Phil
>
>
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>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Latest Parking brake victim |
Here's a recap of my experience:
Getting home was a trick because I could only turn right on the ground, but figured
that the home ramp was big enough to do a right 270 if I needed to go left.
Thankfully, it worked out.
This morning I did one of the most physically challenging things of the entire
build which was worm myself under the panel around the stick and prop up on a
kidney braced with a rib with both arms intertwined into the cables and rudder
pedals, disregarding the sweat and brake fluid seeping into my eyes, to remove
the lines from the devil spawned valve and join the cable ends together with
spare male male through wall fittings I just happened to have . Luckily with
both legs extended scorpion tail style out the door opening I was able to move
the one that still had bloodflow as a counterbalance to my twisted spine.
Expecting a friend coming by I get a phone call so I manage to flex my man boob
enough to push my phone up high enough to pluck the phone out of my shirt pocket
with my teeth and drop it on the footwell floor. The caller ID says Van's,
so I contort enough to tap answer with my elbow only to be asked by Van's Chevrolet
in Scottsdale if it was a convenient time to discuss my future automotive
needs.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Flew May 10 2014
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| Subject: | Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port |
Those would also make good defrost fans....and all the time they'll help to k
eep the hot air from under your panel vented.
> On Dec 5, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
> The flat, square, computer fans won't be much good since they don't produc
e much pressure .... they're made to move the hot air away from a spot sourc
e. However, you can get 12V squirrel cage fans ..... used on larger compute
rs .... on EBAY .... search '12v squirrel cage fan'.
> Linn
>
>> On 12/5/2014 11:11 AM, Phillip Perry wrote:
>> Apologies for this, but I'm about 200 miles from the airplane and orderin
g parts.
>>
>> Do any of you recall the size of the cooling port on the Lightspeed Plasm
a III? The dimensions for the port are not included in their documentation.
>>
>> The question above is the most important one...
>>
>> But I'd also be curious to know if any of you have found a way t
o provide reliable cooling air with a more commercialized (think Mouser, Dig
ikey, etc) blower. Right now I'm leaning toward shelling out a few hundred d
ollars to Aircraft Spruce for an avionics blower.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> 12/05/14
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port |
I've got a pair of those mounted in the glareshield.
But I'm still putting a blower (think cage type) on the Plasma III box. I'l
l probably get a 3 port version and put one on the ignition box, and use the
other two for indirectly blowing air on other items expensive items like GT
N-750 and similar.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 5, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
> Those would also make good defrost fans....and all the time they'll help t
o keep the hot air from under your panel vented.
>
>
>
>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> The flat, square, computer fans won't be much good since they don't produ
ce much pressure .... they're made to move the hot air away from a spot sour
ce. However, you can get 12V squirrel cage fans ..... used on larger comput
ers .... on EBAY .... search '12v squirrel cage fan'.
>> Linn
>>
>>> On 12/5/2014 11:11 AM, Phillip Perry wrote:
>>> Apologies for this, but I'm about 200 miles from the airplane and orderi
ng parts.
>>>
>>> Do any of you recall the size of the cooling port on the Lightspeed Plas
ma III? The dimensions for the port are not included in their documentation
.
>>>
>>> The question above is the most important one...
>>>
>>> But I'd also be curious to know if any of you have found a way to provid
e reliable cooling air with a more commercialized (think Mouser, D
igikey, etc) blower. Right now I'm leaning toward shelling out a few hundre
d dollars to Aircraft Spruce for an avionics blower.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> 12/05/14
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Red cube fire sleeve |
I'm not sure of the wisdom or the science of firesleeving the red cube especially
if it is mounted downstream of the fuel control unit fuel shut off as the manufacturer
recommends. My two-year-old cube seeped for the first few weeks after
we put fuel to it and then the gasket swelled and sealed itself but I like
to have it open for inspection and it seems to me that if it did leak the sleeve
would just amass the fuel. The unit does self cool from the fuel flow.
What am I missing?
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Flew May 10 2014
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| Subject: | Re: Red cube fire sleeve |
Where most folks are mounting, in front of the sump and near the fuel
servo, is upwind of most exhaust pipes and anything else really hot. I
too do not see the point of firesleeving the cube. I've had one on my
Mooney for about 6 years without firesleeve. Don't recall anything in
the STC instructions calling for it. In fact, the STC called for
installation between the mechanical pump and the fuel servo, which
works, but is higher pressure than after the servo in the line to the
flow divider.
On 12/5/2014 1:46 PM, woxofswa wrote:
>
> I'm not sure of the wisdom or the science of firesleeving the red cube especially
if it is mounted downstream of the fuel control unit fuel shut off as the
manufacturer recommends. My two-year-old cube seeped for the first few weeks
after we put fuel to it and then the gasket swelled and sealed itself but I like
to have it open for inspection and it seems to me that if it did leak the sleeve
would just amass the fuel. The unit does self cool from the fuel flow.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> --------
> Myron Nelson
> Mesa, AZ
> Flew May 10 2014
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435375#435375
>
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| Subject: | Re: Red cube fire sleeve |
In my case my lycoming came set up with the fuel line from rear of airflow performance
servo up through bottom baffle between cyl 1/3 . I split the line to
mount red cube where it would fit. It's close to the exhaust enough where I
feel better about shielding it as much as possible from heat. It's near the combined
part of thei pipe so I can't put a heat shield on the pipe.
https://www.dropbox.com/lightbox/home/fuel%20flow
I've removed the bracket I had made so now it's actually closer to 3 intake pipe
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Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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| Subject: | Re: Red cube fire sleeve |
Can't you but fire sleeve in sheets? Just roll it around the red cube a
couple of times and secure with ss hose clamps.
I seem to remember having to do that on my p-180 when I installed the fuel
flow sensor on it
SH
On Dec 5, 2014 6:16 PM, "rvdave" <rv610dave@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In my case my lycoming came set up with the fuel line from rear of airflow
> performance servo up through bottom baffle between cyl 1/3 . I split the
> line to mount red cube where it would fit. It's close to the exhaust
> enough where I feel better about shielding it as much as possible from
> heat. It's near the combined part of thei pipe so I can't put a heat
> shield on the pipe.
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/lightbox/home/fuel%20flow
> I've removed the bracket I had made so now it's actually closer to 3
> intake pipe
>
> --------
> Dave Ford
> RV6 flying
> RV10 building
> Cadillac, MI
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435384#435384
>
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| Subject: | Antisplataero gust lock review |
I just posted a review of the Gust lock from antisplataero on VAF.
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=939414#post93941
4
As Bob Leffler commented, if you have wires routed on the outside of the
stick, versus inside (as I did) this gust lock, with retainer, the way
it is today will NOT work for you.
http://antisplataero.com/RV-10_Ultimate_Gust_Lock.html
Pascal
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| Subject: | Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port |
It's easy Phil just order the EFII system because you don't need a cooling p
ort. Sorry couldn't resist it!
Gaylon Koenning.....
With your control sticks still 200 nm away from you.
> On Dec 5, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Apologies for this, but I'm about 200 miles from the airplane and ordering
parts.
>
> Do any of you recall the size of the cooling port on the Lightspeed Plasma
III? The dimensions for the port are not included in their documentation.
>
> The question above is the most important one...
>
> But I'd also be curious to know if any of you have found a way to provide r
eliable cooling air with a more commercialized (think Mouser, Digikey, etc) b
lower. Right now I'm leaning toward shelling out a few hundred dollars to A
ircraft Spruce for an avionics blower.
>
> Phil
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port |
Nor does the ElectroAir system. Not to mention the G3 system.
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:23 PM, RV10@TEXASRV10.COM <rv10@texasrv10.com>
wrote:
> It's easy Phil just order the EFII system because you don't need a cooling
> port. Sorry couldn't resist it!
>
> Gaylon Koenning.....
> With your control sticks still 200 nm away from you.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port |
On 12/5/2014 1:09 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
> Those would also make good defrost fans....and all the time they'll
> help to keep the hot air from under your panel vented.
Most modern avionics do not produce much heat at all so the defrost fans
might need some cabin heat to work effectively.
It doesn't get much colder than freezing down in FL for the most part
and the cabin heat looks like it will function nicely at -40 :-P .
What say you guys in the frozen north .......
Linn
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| Subject: | Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port |
I installed a Cyclone 21 avionics fan (PN CRB-6457) which I believe Stein carries
(below). The other ports provide forced cooling to my radio stack. Simple design
and well worth the $.
http://www.steinair.com/SearchResults.cfm?key=fan
Sorry I don't recall the tube diameter used on the LSE cooling ports. But... do
recall sourcing the tubing from the A/C section of the local Lowes.
Cheers,
Jay
433RV flying
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435394#435394
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| Subject: | Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port |
Hey Phil, don't you have a G750 with it's own fan? I have 2 5" computer
type fans in the upper fuse which should be all sorts of cooling (along
with my G650). Unless you have a 430W/530W you shouldn't need Steins
fan,......or am I missing something?
Rick
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
> Apologies for this, but I'm about 200 miles from the airplane and ordering
> parts.
>
> Do any of you recall the size of the cooling port on the Lightspeed Plasma
> III? The dimensions for the port are not included in their documentation.
>
> The question above is the most important one...
>
> But I'd also be curious to know if any of you have found a way to provide
> reliable cooling air with a more commercialized (think Mouser, Digikey,
> etc) blower. Right now I'm leaning toward shelling out a few hundred
> dollars to Aircraft Spruce for an avionics blower.
>
> Phil
>
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| Subject: | Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port |
+1 more for Robert Paisley's EFII. What a great system!
As far as avionics blowers go,
Twosrus.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=84&products_id=630
Have you considered two naca vents? One on either side with a valve to shut t
he flow off if needed would probably be more cooling than you would ever nee
d. It's a much lighter and less complex approach too.
Justin
> On Dec 6, 2014, at 04:23, RV10@TEXASRV10.COM <rv10@texasrv10.com> wrote:
>
> It's easy Phil just order the EFII system because you don't need a cooling
port. Sorry couldn't resist it!
>
> Gaylon Koenning.....
> With your control sticks still 200 nm away from you.
>
>
>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Apologies for this, but I'm about 200 miles from the airplane and orderin
g parts.
>>
>> Do any of you recall the size of the cooling port on the Lightspeed Plasm
a III? The dimensions for the port are not included in their documentation.
>>
>> The question above is the most important one...
>>
>> But I'd also be curious to know if any of you have found a way to provide
reliable cooling air with a more commercialized (think Mouser, Digikey, etc
) blower. Right now I'm leaning toward shelling out a few hundred dollars t
o Aircraft Spruce for an avionics blower.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port |
I remember some of my initial flights were on 10F degree days up here and wi
th the cabin heat on, the under panel temp was well over 100F, so with cabin
heat and a pair of blowers on the glareshield it defrosts....not fast but e
nough. Thanksgiving day this year I went flying and during our ground warmu
p (it was under 10F) the 4 of us fogged the windows so bad they were almost c
ompletely fogged over, but where the blowers were it was clear in a couple 8
-10" circles. After takeoff and the hotter engine heat we cleared the whole
front and side front windows so that was better. At any rate, you definite
ly want a defroster. Mine comes on with the master because summer and winte
r, you may as well keep all the heat you can from staying under the glareshi
eld. I run it year round.
Tim
> On Dec 5, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> On 12/5/2014 1:09 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>> Those would also make good defrost fans....and all the time they'll help t
o keep the hot air from under your panel vented.
> Most modern avionics do not produce much heat at all so the defrost fans m
ight need some cabin heat to work effectively.
> It doesn't get much colder than freezing down in FL for the most part and t
he cabin heat looks like it will function nicely at -40 :-P .
> What say you guys in the frozen north .......
> Linn
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port |
I'm not sure if the 750 has an internal fan or if it just has a really large
heat sink. I do know there isn't a cooling port on it.
But I'm thinking, since I will have an extra blower ports available, I might
direct one of the extras toward it to assist in removing heat off the heat s
ink. Again, not required, but it won't hurt.
The only device I have behind the panel that requires cooling is the Plasma I
II. And even that is debatable if it's mounted in a cool spot (mine is on t
he subpanel). Many of the earlier 6 cylinder models don't even have the po
rt.
On the topic of fans, I have two in the top of the upper fuse. They are si
mply defoggers (not defrost - heat isn't required). So the goal is to keep a
ir moving and if it will exhaust some heat from under than panel then all th
e better.
On a monumental building note, I think I will be doing my first power up wit
h the panel temporarily wired up to the airframe on Tuesday. If it goes wel
l then I can get started on the permanent installation. Very excited! It'
s been a long time coming. 7.5 years to this point. :)
Phil
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 5, 2014, at 10:02 PM, Rick Lark <larkrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Phil, don't you have a G750 with it's own fan? I have 2 5" computer t
ype fans in the upper fuse which should be all sorts of cooling (along with m
y G650). Unless you have a 430W/530W you shouldn't need Steins fan,......or
am I missing something?
>
> Rick
>
>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wro
te:
>> Apologies for this, but I'm about 200 miles from the airplane and orderin
g parts.
>>
>> Do any of you recall the size of the cooling port on the Lightspeed Plasm
a III? The dimensions for the port are not included in their documentation.
>>
>> The question above is the most important one...
>>
>> But I'd also be curious to know if any of you have found a way to provide
reliable cooling air with a more commercialized (think Mouser, Digikey, etc
) blower. Right now I'm leaning toward shelling out a few hundred dollars t
o Aircraft Spruce for an avionics blower.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com
>> .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
>> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com
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>> ank">www.mrrace.com
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>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Plasma III - Cooling Port |
The 650 and 750 have tiny fans built into the back plate. Noisy little
buggers.
You still want some airflow behind the panel.
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 9:56 PM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure if the 750 has an internal fan or if it just has a really
> large heat sink. I do know there isn't a cooling port on it.
>
> But I'm thinking, since I will have an extra blower ports available, I
> might direct one of the extras toward it to assist in removing heat off the
> heat sink. Again, not required, but it won't hurt.
>
> The only device I have behind the panel that requires cooling is the
> Plasma III. And even that is debatable if it's mounted in a cool spot
> (mine is on the subpanel). Many of the earlier 6 cylinder models don't
> even have the port.
>
> On the topic of fans, I have two in the top of the upper fuse. They are
> simply defoggers (not defrost - heat isn't required). So the goal is to
> keep air moving and if it will exhaust some heat from under than panel then
> all the better.
>
> On a monumental building note, I think I will be doing my first power up
> with the panel temporarily wired up to the airframe on Tuesday. If it goes
> well then I can get started on the permanent installation. Very excited!
> It's been a long time coming. 7.5 years to this point. :)
>
> Phil
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 5, 2014, at 10:02 PM, Rick Lark <larkrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Phil, don't you have a G750 with it's own fan? I have 2 5" computer
> type fans in the upper fuse which should be all sorts of cooling (along
> with my G650). Unless you have a 430W/530W you shouldn't need Steins
> fan,......or am I missing something?
>
> Rick
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Apologies for this, but I'm about 200 miles from the airplane and
>> ordering parts.
>>
>> Do any of you recall the size of the cooling port on the Lightspeed
>> Plasma III? The dimensions for the port are not included in their
>> documentation.
>>
>> The question above is the most important one...
>>
>> But I'd also be curious to know if any of you have found a way to provide
>> reliable cooling air with a more commercialized (think Mouser, Digikey,
>> etc) blower. Right now I'm leaning toward shelling out a few hundred
>> dollars to Aircraft Spruce for an avionics blower.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
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