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1. 12:03 PM - NavWorx ADS-B (Miller John)
2. 12:19 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Bob Leffler)
3. 12:20 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Jesse Saint)
4. 12:32 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Ralph E. Capen)
5. 12:59 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Bob Leffler)
6. 01:12 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Miller John)
7. 01:29 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Ralph E. Capen)
8. 01:39 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Bob Turner)
9. 01:42 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Jesse Saint)
10. 01:52 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Tim Olson)
11. 01:57 PM - SB 14-8-29 (Miller John)
12. 02:06 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Miller John)
13. 02:08 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Miller John)
14. 02:28 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Jesse Saint)
15. 02:29 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Jesse Saint)
16. 02:30 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Bob Leffler)
17. 02:40 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Bob Turner)
18. 02:57 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Tim Olson)
19. 02:58 PM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Tim Olson)
20. 05:38 PM - 2014 List of Contributors (Matt Dralle)
21. 06:17 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Linn Walters)
22. 08:09 PM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Tim Olson)
23. 08:45 PM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Kelly McMullen)
24. 10:14 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B (Bob Turner)
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Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?
Id appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.
Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
Grumpy
gengrumpy@aol.com
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS-B |
There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed. I do.......
Bob
Sent from my iPad
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
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> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?
>
> Id appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.
>
> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
>
> Grumpy
> gengrumpy@aol.com
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>
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS-B |
I don't have one on hand, but have installed a couple.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
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> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
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> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?
>
> Id appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.
>
> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
>
> Grumpy
> gengrumpy@aol.com
>
>
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Getting ready to install one and connect it up to a 420W, MX20, and AFS3400EE.
I am interested to hear any discussions also.....
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Miller John
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 2:59 PM
Subject: RV10-List: NavWorx ADS-B
Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?
Id appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.
Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
Grumpy
gengrumpy@aol.com
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS-B |
Ralph,
Does your 3400 have the "s" processor? AFS has released several updates to the
software to resolve some issues with the NavWorx. I just installed the last
beta version, but I haven't had a chance to fly with it yet due to the weather.
The nice weather days recently seemed to only days I'm working.
Bob
Sent from my iPad
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>
> Getting ready to install one and connect it up to a 420W, MX20, and AFS3400EE.
>
> I am interested to hear any discussions also.....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Miller John
> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 2:59 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com; rv8-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: NavWorx ADS-B
>
>
> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?
>
> Id appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.
>
> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
>
> Grumpy
> gengrumpy@aol.com
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS-B |
Bob and Rene,
Thanks for the replies. Im interested in your opinions on the following:
1. Reliability of the system.
2. Ease of installation. Immuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.
Ive got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work with
the system.
3. Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS? Ive been trying to decide
which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.
4. Any other thoughts you have on their system.
Thanks - Grumpy
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
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>
> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed. I do.......
>
> Bob
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
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>>
>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?
>>
>> Id appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.
>>
>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
>>
>> Grumpy
>> gengrumpy@aol.com
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Yes, I have the 's'!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: NavWorx ADS-B
Ralph,
Does your 3400 have the "s" processor? AFS has released several updates to the
software to resolve some issues with the NavWorx. I just installed the last
beta version, but I haven't had a chance to fly with it yet due to the weather.
The nice weather days recently seemed to only days I'm working.
Bob
Sent from my iPad
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net> wrote:
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> --> <recapen@earthlink.net>
>
> Getting ready to install one and connect it up to a 420W, MX20, and AFS3400EE.
>
> I am interested to hear any discussions also.....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Miller John
> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 2:59 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com; rv8-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: NavWorx ADS-B
>
>
> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?
>
> Id appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.
>
> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
>
> Grumpy
> gengrumpy@aol.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS-B |
[quote="gengrumpy"]Bob and Rene,
Thanks for the replies. Im interested in your opinions on the following:
1
3. Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS? Ive been trying to decide
which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.
4. Any other thoughts you have on their system.
Thanks - Grumpy
[quote]
If you intend to use or need the ADSB-out after 2020 you need to have a "certified"
(e.g. meets FAR specs) gps position source.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436131#436131
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS-B |
See below.
Btw, I have one for sale.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
352-427-0285
jesse@saintaviation.com
Sent from my iPad
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Bob and Rene,
>
> Thanks for the replies. Im interested in your opinions on the following:
>
> 1. Reliability of the system.
In my experience it's very reliable.
>
> 2. Ease of installation. Immuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.
Ive got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work with
the system.
The wiring is simple. The programming is a little archaic, but it isn't hard. The
327 works as a remote so the navworx box gets the right squawk. I don't have
experience with the Chelton.
>
> 3. Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS? Ive been trying to decide
which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.
Non-certified. For a certified plane the certified version is required. I doubt
many of the certified units are going into experimentals. I don't know the 2020
ramifications of the non-certified unit.
>
> 4. Any other thoughts you have on their system.
A cheaper way to go ads-b in/out if you already are running on a mode C transponder.
>
> Thanks - Grumpy
>
>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed. I do.......
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?
>>>
>>> Id appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.
>>>
>>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
>>>
>>> Grumpy
>>> gengrumpy@aol.com
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS-B |
It should work well for you. It's not too hard to install but will require some
minor pin adjustments on the Chelton depending on what you have wired right
now. If you have WSI weather, there is more to think about but if not it's pretty
straight forward. You should find it plenty reliable, as long as you're
in a coverage area. I've been using one since 2008 and bought another for my
RV14.
Right now I'd skip the certified GPS for the time being. It's modular and snap
in so won't take long to add later and the price will go down on the module later.
Keep in mind that there are more weather products available with FIS-B than what
the aging Cheltons can display, but you'll still get the basics and can also
use a wifi adapter they sell, with your iPad, to get the other data if you wish.
I'm going to fly mine as-is for another year or two and then add the certified
GPS module. If you just want to spend the money and forget about it, but the certified
one now.
Tim
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Bob and Rene,
>
> Thanks for the replies. Im interested in your opinions on the following:
>
> 1. Reliability of the system.
>
> 2. Ease of installation. Immuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.
Ive got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work with
the system.
>
> 3. Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS? Ive been trying to decide
which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.
>
> 4. Any other thoughts you have on their system.
>
> Thanks - Grumpy
>
>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed. I do.......
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?
>>>
>>> Id appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.
>>>
>>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
>>>
>>> Grumpy
>>> gengrumpy@aol.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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For the list (and whoever is keeping track).
I performed the SB on the nose gear leg attachment to the engine mount. No cracking
found, so the doubler plate was primed and fit nicely without any trimming
required.
325hrs with probably 50 or so turf field landings.
For what its worth as technique, I try to keep as much weight off of the nose gear
as possible until slowed to taxi speed, even on hard surfaces.
grumpy
N184JM
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS-B |
If I pull the trigger and buy one before April (my ACI time), Ill probably be asking
you a lot more questions!
It sure seems to be the most economical solution for my 10 now.
I dont have wx on my Cheltons but do have on my G-396 (XM WX). Traffic and radar
would be the most valuable for the Cheltons.
What does the WI-FI connect to? Couldnt find it on their website. I use ForeFlight
on the iPad.
grumpy
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
>
> It should work well for you. It's not too hard to install but will require some
minor pin adjustments on the Chelton depending on what you have wired right
now. If you have WSI weather, there is more to think about but if not it's
pretty straight forward. You should find it plenty reliable, as long as you're
in a coverage area. I've been using one since 2008 and bought another for my
RV14.
> Right now I'd skip the certified GPS for the time being. It's modular and snap
in so won't take long to add later and the price will go down on the module
later.
>
> Keep in mind that there are more weather products available with FIS-B than what
the aging Cheltons can display, but you'll still get the basics and can also
use a wifi adapter they sell, with your iPad, to get the other data if you
wish.
> I'm going to fly mine as-is for another year or two and then add the certified
GPS module. If you just want to spend the money and forget about it, but the
certified one now.
>
>
> Tim
>
>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Bob and Rene,
>>
>> Thanks for the replies. Im interested in your opinions on the following:
>>
>> 1. Reliability of the system.
>>
>> 2. Ease of installation. Immuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.
Ive got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work with
the system.
>>
>> 3. Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS? Ive been trying to decide
which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.
>>
>> 4. Any other thoughts you have on their system.
>>
>> Thanks - Grumpy
>>
>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed. I do.......
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?
>>>>
>>>> Id appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
>>>>
>>>> Grumpy
>>>> gengrumpy@aol.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS-B |
Which version do you have, components and price?
grumpy
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote:
>
>
> See below.
>
> Btw, I have one for sale.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> 352-427-0285
> jesse@saintaviation.com
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Bob and Rene,
>>
>> Thanks for the replies. Im interested in your opinions on the following:
>>
>> 1. Reliability of the system.
> In my experience it's very reliable.
>>
>> 2. Ease of installation. Immuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.
Ive got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work with
the system.
> The wiring is simple. The programming is a little archaic, but it isn't hard.
The 327 works as a remote so the navworx box gets the right squawk. I don't have
experience with the Chelton.
>>
>> 3. Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS? Ive been trying to decide
which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.
> Non-certified. For a certified plane the certified version is required. I doubt
many of the certified units are going into experimentals. I don't know the
2020 ramifications of the non-certified unit.
>>
>> 4. Any other thoughts you have on their system.
> A cheaper way to go ads-b in/out if you already are running on a mode C transponder.
>>
>> Thanks - Grumpy
>>
>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed. I do.......
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?
>>>>
>>>> Id appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
>>>>
>>>> Grumpy
>>>> gengrumpy@aol.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS-B |
I have the ADS600-B. No ARINC, I think. Non-certified GPS. Includes both antenna
cables and a GPS antenna. If the shark fin UAT antenna survived the crash, that's
included too. $2,200 shipped conus. I'll include as much of the harness
as I can successfully pull from the plane. It does have the console port in the
harness with about 4-6' of wire.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
352-427-0285
jesse@saintaviation.com
Sent from my iPad
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Which version do you have, components and price?
>
> grumpy
>
>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> See below.
>>
>> Btw, I have one for sale.
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>> 352-427-0285
>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob and Rene,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the replies. Im interested in your opinions on the following:
>>>
>>> 1. Reliability of the system.
>> In my experience it's very reliable.
>>>
>>> 2. Ease of installation. Immuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.
Ive got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work
with the system.
>> The wiring is simple. The programming is a little archaic, but it isn't hard.
The 327 works as a remote so the navworx box gets the right squawk. I don't
have experience with the Chelton.
>>>
>>> 3. Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS? Ive been trying to decide
which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.
>> Non-certified. For a certified plane the certified version is required. I doubt
many of the certified units are going into experimentals. I don't know the
2020 ramifications of the non-certified unit.
>>>
>>> 4. Any other thoughts you have on their system.
>> A cheaper way to go ads-b in/out if you already are running on a mode C transponder.
>>>
>>> Thanks - Grumpy
>>>
>>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed. I do.......
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?
>>>>>
>>>>> Id appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
>>>>>
>>>>> Grumpy
>>>>> gengrumpy@aol.com
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS-B |
The wifi port won't feed info to foreflight, but if you have the stratus, it will
activate all traffic in your area.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
352-427-0285
jesse@saintaviation.com
Sent from my iPad
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> If I pull the trigger and buy one before April (my ACI time), Ill probably be
asking you a lot more questions!
>
> It sure seems to be the most economical solution for my 10 now.
>
> I dont have wx on my Cheltons but do have on my G-396 (XM WX). Traffic and radar
would be the most valuable for the Cheltons.
>
> What does the WI-FI connect to? Couldnt find it on their website. I use ForeFlight
on the iPad.
>
> grumpy
>
>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> It should work well for you. It's not too hard to install but will require
some minor pin adjustments on the Chelton depending on what you have wired right
now. If you have WSI weather, there is more to think about but if not it's
pretty straight forward. You should find it plenty reliable, as long as you're
in a coverage area. I've been using one since 2008 and bought another for
my RV14.
>> Right now I'd skip the certified GPS for the time being. It's modular and snap
in so won't take long to add later and the price will go down on the module
later.
>>
>> Keep in mind that there are more weather products available with FIS-B than
what the aging Cheltons can display, but you'll still get the basics and can also
use a wifi adapter they sell, with your iPad, to get the other data if you
wish.
>> I'm going to fly mine as-is for another year or two and then add the certified
GPS module. If you just want to spend the money and forget about it, but the
certified one now.
>>
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob and Rene,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the replies. Im interested in your opinions on the following:
>>>
>>> 1. Reliability of the system.
>>>
>>> 2. Ease of installation. Immuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.
Ive got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work
with the system.
>>>
>>> 3. Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS? Ive been trying to decide
which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.
>>>
>>> 4. Any other thoughts you have on their system.
>>>
>>> Thanks - Grumpy
>>>
>>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed. I do.......
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?
>>>>>
>>>>> Id appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
>>>>>
>>>>> Grumpy
>>>>> gengrumpy@aol.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Wifi connects to an iPad running WingX. There may be other options available,
but this is the one I have.
Bob
Sent from my iPad
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> If I pull the trigger and buy one before April (my ACI time), Ill probably be
asking you a lot more questions!
>
> It sure seems to be the most economical solution for my 10 now.
>
> I dont have wx on my Cheltons but do have on my G-396 (XM WX). Traffic and radar
would be the most valuable for the Cheltons.
>
> What does the WI-FI connect to? Couldnt find it on their website. I use ForeFlight
on the iPad.
>
> grumpy
>
>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> It should work well for you. It's not too hard to install but will require
some minor pin adjustments on the Chelton depending on what you have wired right
now. If you have WSI weather, there is more to think about but if not it's
pretty straight forward. You should find it plenty reliable, as long as you're
in a coverage area. I've been using one since 2008 and bought another for
my RV14.
>> Right now I'd skip the certified GPS for the time being. It's modular and snap
in so won't take long to add later and the price will go down on the module
later.
>>
>> Keep in mind that there are more weather products available with FIS-B than
what the aging Cheltons can display, but you'll still get the basics and can also
use a wifi adapter they sell, with your iPad, to get the other data if you
wish.
>> I'm going to fly mine as-is for another year or two and then add the certified
GPS module. If you just want to spend the money and forget about it, but the
certified one now.
>>
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob and Rene,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the replies. Im interested in your opinions on the following:
>>>
>>> 1. Reliability of the system.
>>>
>>> 2. Ease of installation. Immuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.
Ive got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work
with the system.
>>>
>>> 3. Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS? Ive been trying to decide
which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.
>>>
>>> 4. Any other thoughts you have on their system.
>>>
>>> Thanks - Grumpy
>>>
>>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed. I do.......
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?
>>>>>
>>>>> Id appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
>>>>>
>>>>> Grumpy
>>>>> gengrumpy@aol.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Warning, thread drift!
If you have a cfi certificate, Hilton will give you a WingX subscription for free.
Includes geo-referencing.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS-B |
It connects to most except not Foreflight. Foreflight is still in the pig-headed
proprietary stage like Garmin.
Tim
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> If I pull the trigger and buy one before April (my ACI time), Ill probably be
asking you a lot more questions!
>
> It sure seems to be the most economical solution for my 10 now.
>
> I dont have wx on my Cheltons but do have on my G-396 (XM WX). Traffic and radar
would be the most valuable for the Cheltons.
>
> What does the WI-FI connect to? Couldnt find it on their website. I use ForeFlight
on the iPad.
>
> grumpy
>
>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> It should work well for you. It's not too hard to install but will require
some minor pin adjustments on the Chelton depending on what you have wired right
now. If you have WSI weather, there is more to think about but if not it's
pretty straight forward. You should find it plenty reliable, as long as you're
in a coverage area. I've been using one since 2008 and bought another for
my RV14.
>> Right now I'd skip the certified GPS for the time being. It's modular and snap
in so won't take long to add later and the price will go down on the module
later.
>>
>> Keep in mind that there are more weather products available with FIS-B than
what the aging Cheltons can display, but you'll still get the basics and can also
use a wifi adapter they sell, with your iPad, to get the other data if you
wish.
>> I'm going to fly mine as-is for another year or two and then add the certified
GPS module. If you just want to spend the money and forget about it, but the
certified one now.
>>
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob and Rene,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the replies. Im interested in your opinions on the following:
>>>
>>> 1. Reliability of the system.
>>>
>>> 2. Ease of installation. Immuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.
Ive got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work
with the system.
>>>
>>> 3. Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS? Ive been trying to decide
which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.
>>>
>>> 4. Any other thoughts you have on their system.
>>>
>>> Thanks - Grumpy
>>>
>>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed. I do.......
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?
>>>>>
>>>>> Id appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
>>>>>
>>>>> Grumpy
>>>>> gengrumpy@aol.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS-B |
Yeah, I saw that this week. That's an amazing deal and a good way for them to
promote it. It works well.
Tim
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Warning, thread drift!
>
> If you have a cfi certificate, Hilton will give you a WingX subscription for
free. Includes geo-referencing.
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436141#436141
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I have no idea whether it will interface with your equipment, but you
might (as I am) take a look at the pathfinder.
http://www.fdatasystems.com/pathfinder-remote
Linn
On 12/24/2014 5:03 PM, Miller John wrote:
>
> If I pull the trigger and buy one before April (my ACI time), Ill probably be
asking you a lot more questions!
>
> It sure seems to be the most economical solution for my 10 now.
>
> I dont have wx on my Cheltons but do have on my G-396 (XM WX). Traffic and radar
would be the most valuable for the Cheltons.
>
> What does the WI-FI connect to? Couldnt find it on their website. I use ForeFlight
on the iPad.
>
> grumpy
>
>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> It should work well for you. It's not too hard to install but will require
some minor pin adjustments on the Chelton depending on what you have wired right
now. If you have WSI weather, there is more to think about but if not it's
pretty straight forward. You should find it plenty reliable, as long as you're
in a coverage area. I've been using one since 2008 and bought another for
my RV14.
>> Right now I'd skip the certified GPS for the time being. It's modular and snap
in so won't take long to add later and the price will go down on the module
later.
>>
>> Keep in mind that there are more weather products available with FIS-B than
what the aging Cheltons can display, but you'll still get the basics and can also
use a wifi adapter they sell, with your iPad, to get the other data if you
wish.
>> I'm going to fly mine as-is for another year or two and then add the certified
GPS module. If you just want to spend the money and forget about it, but the
certified one now.
>>
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob and Rene,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the replies. Im interested in your opinions on the following:
>>>
>>> 1. Reliability of the system.
>>>
>>> 2. Ease of installation. Immuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.
Ive got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work
with the system.
>>>
>>> 3. Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS? Ive been trying to decide
which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.
>>>
>>> 4. Any other thoughts you have on their system.
>>>
>>> Thanks - Grumpy
>>>
>>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed. I do.......
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?
>>>>>
>>>>> Id appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
>>>>>
>>>>> Grumpy
>>>>> gengrumpy@aol.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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In the past couple weeks it's been discussed that homebuilts were kind of left
out in some of the rules...not that they shouldn't apply but that they simply
are written poorly and don't seem to incorporate amateur built airplanes in the
same ways other avionics do. I personally believe that the GPS should perform
to certified standards but that some of the standards set for ADS-B as a whole
may be overkill. Nobody is really sure what the end result will be, but clearly
some clarification will have to happen at some point. And many people and
manufacturers are hoping for some more reasonable specs. So actually, that's
one of the reasons that I think NavWorX has for still offering the cheaper
non-certified GPS at this time. It allows you to get a system running at lower
cost before 2020, yet is upgrade able later. And, they have plans to offer
the certified GPS at lower cost later. So for us with Amateur built planes, they
actually still encourage us to go with the regular ADS600B yet.
I am just glad to see people adopting it, and Amateur built is leading the way.
I think it gives us all some capabilities that every airplane should have.
Tim
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>
>
> [quote="gengrumpy"]Bob and Rene,
>
> Thanks for the replies. Im interested in your opinions on the following:
>
> 1
>
> 3. Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS? Ive been trying to decide
which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.
>
> 4. Any other thoughts you have on their system.
>
> Thanks - Grumpy
>
> [quote]
>
> If you intend to use or need the ADSB-out after 2020 you need to have a "certified"
(e.g. meets FAR specs) gps position source.
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436131#436131
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS-B |
To the credit of our experimental EFIS suppliers they don't often engage
in advertising vaporware.
I have heard whispers of Dynon having a certified WAAS GPS available for
their ADS-B in the next 3-6 months (probably Sun n Fun if they can).
Don't know whether it would also make any of the glass panel IFR as well
or not. Given that their 1090ES transponder is around $2200 and their
UAT receiver is around $1000.
I wouldn't be surprised to see GRT and AFS to find a solution as well.
I was rather disappointed in Mac McClellan's blog to see him spinning a
bunch of misconceptions about experimental and LSA aircraft (considering
he worked for EAA for awhile) based on his reading of an advisory
circular that ignores experimental. I see nothing in the regs that
prevents us from having a fully certified ADS-B Out installed in our
aircraft, as long as you have a transponder that meets the TSO and a GPS
that meets the TSO and install by following the manufacturer's
instructions as closely as possible. We most certainly don't need STCs
or field approvals, and quite frankly I think the FAA is really
stretching their own regs to make ADS-B vendors get STCs and AML
approval for each make an model certified aircraft, when neither are
required to do a simple install of a certified WAAS GPS and an install
of a mode 3A/C or Mode S transponder.
On 12/24/2014 9:06 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> In the past couple weeks it's been discussed that homebuilts were kind of left
out in some of the rules...not that they shouldn't apply but that they simply
are written poorly and don't seem to incorporate amateur built airplanes in
the same ways other avionics do. I personally believe that the GPS should perform
to certified standards but that some of the standards set for ADS-B as a
whole may be overkill. Nobody is really sure what the end result will be, but
clearly some clarification will have to happen at some point. And many people
and manufacturers are hoping for some more reasonable specs. So actually, that's
one of the reasons that I think NavWorX has for still offering the cheaper
non-certified GPS at this time. It allows you to get a system running at lower
cost before 2020, yet is upgrade able later. And, they have plans to offer
the certified GPS at lower cost later. So for us with Amateur built planes,
they actually still encourage us to go with the regul!
> ar ADS600B yet.
> I am just glad to see people adopting it, and Amateur built is leading the way.
I think it gives us all some capabilities that every airplane should have.
> Tim
>
>
>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>> [quote="gengrumpy"]Bob and Rene,
>>
>> Thanks for the replies. Im interested in your opinions on the following:
>>
>> 1
>>
>> 3. Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS? Ive been trying to decide
which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.
>>
>> 4. Any other thoughts you have on their system.
>>
>> Thanks - Grumpy
>>
>> [quote]
>>
>> If you intend to use or need the ADSB-out after 2020 you need to have a "certified"
(e.g. meets FAR specs) gps position source.
>>
>> --------
>> Bob Turner
>> RV-10 QB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436131#436131
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS-B |
GRT has a solution: $2.2K Trig transponder controlled by HX or HXr, plus almost
any ADSB-in box. You still need a position source. If you have a 4xxW or 650/750
you're all set.
Tim, I agree the gps specs are overkill. But I cannot see the FAA relaxing them.
The manufacturers that already have gps boxes that meet them would cry foul,
there'd be legal trouble.
The STC is a non issue, hopefully, for EAB. For normally certified aircraft, it's
the latest battleground. The FAA has practically banned field approvals, no
alteration is now minor.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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