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1. 09:44 AM - Re: Seat tilt (rvdave)
2. 11:41 AM - Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation (Patrick Pulis)
3. 11:46 AM - Re: Re: Seat tilt (Robert Brunkenhoefer)
4. 12:55 PM - Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation (Bob Leffler)
5. 12:58 PM - Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation (woxofswa)
6. 01:10 PM - Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation (Sean Stephens)
7. 01:27 PM - Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation (Tim Olson)
8. 01:42 PM - Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation (Jesse Saint)
9. 02:05 PM - Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation (dmaib@me.com)
10. 05:00 PM - Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation (Phillip Perry)
11. 05:24 PM - Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation (Linn Walters)
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Not really a big deal, I swapped seat levers and inverted them which works better,
but maybe there's a plastic or rubber tip to finish the look and provide a
small extension?
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Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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| Subject: | Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation |
I have the original Vans supplied gas struts for the doors. Should I just install
these and wait for them to fail, thereafter installing the heavy duty gas
struts, or replace with the heavy duty versions from the outset?
Could someone please provide the Vans part number for the heavy duty gas struts
please, or is there an alternative supplier?
Warm regards from downunder
Patrick
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Great idea! Wish I had thought of it before!
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation |
Just search the "list" for struts and it will be obvious. There are other sources
that are less expensive, but I can't comment on shipping down under.
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On Jan 12, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Patrick Pulis <rv10free2fly@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
I have the original Vans supplied gas struts for the doors. Should I just install
these and wait for them to fail, thereafter installing the heavy duty gas
struts, or replace with the heavy duty versions from the outset?
Could someone please provide the Vans part number for the heavy duty gas struts
please, or is there an alternative supplier?
Warm regards from downunder
Patrick
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation |
I have the standard issue Van's struts that have been installed for about three
years. I have been flying since May for about 125 hours. My doors are heavier
than most as I have the cavities insulated, an armrest, and Sean's door system,
and even in breezes, I have yet to have a door come down unexpectedly. If/when
they do fail, I will probably upgrade to the higher compression system,
but in the meantime I have no complaints about the originals.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Flew May 10 2014
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation |
I would try the supplied struts first. I haven't had any issue with the
supplied struts, but I think it depends on how much extra "stuff" is
applied to the door interior.
-Sean #40303 (waiting for my paint slot to open up)
> Patrick Pulis <mailto:rv10free2fly@yahoo.com.au>
> January 12, 2015 at 1:39 PM
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> I have the original Vans supplied gas struts for the doors. Should I
> just install these and wait for them to fail, thereafter installing
> the heavy duty gas struts, or replace with the heavy duty versions
> from the outset?
>
> Could someone please provide the Vans part number for the heavy duty
> gas struts please, or is there an alternative supplier?
>
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> Warm regards from downunder
>
> Patrick
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation |
I agree. If you own them, you may as well use them for now. I've got
the same ones on that Van's sent me in what, 2005?? And they're still
working out. I think in the last year they are weakening a little,
but 9 years of flying for almost 1100 hours will do that I guess.
I have fabric applied to the door, so heavier materials may make
it worse and lighter materials or no materials may make it better.
I did paint the doors before applying fabric.
So, you may as well try them.
Tim
On 1/12/2015 3:06 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
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> I would try the supplied struts first. I haven't had any issue with the
> supplied struts, but I think it depends on how much extra "stuff" is
> applied to the door interior.
>
> -Sean #40303 (waiting for my paint slot to open up)
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation |
As time mentioned, the stock struts will work fine for you for a while if your
door isn't built extra heavy. I have seen some doors that were so heavy the new
standard struts wouldn't hold them open. On the other hand, I have seen strut
brackets broken because the heavy duty strut was installed on a light-weight
door and constantly slamming open eventually broke the bracket. The heavy duty
struts on a standard door will open the door from all the way closed if it is
unlatched. I don't like that. I want the door to open all the way when I lift
it by hand, but I like to be able to lower it and have it stay down even if
I don't latch it.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
> On Jan 12, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
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> I agree. If you own them, you may as well use them for now. I've got
> the same ones on that Van's sent me in what, 2005?? And they're still
> working out. I think in the last year they are weakening a little,
> but 9 years of flying for almost 1100 hours will do that I guess.
> I have fabric applied to the door, so heavier materials may make
> it worse and lighter materials or no materials may make it better.
> I did paint the doors before applying fabric.
>
> So, you may as well try them.
>
> Tim
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> On 1/12/2015 3:06 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
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>> I would try the supplied struts first. I haven't had any issue with the
>> supplied struts, but I think it depends on how much extra "stuff" is
>> applied to the door interior.
>>
>> -Sean #40303 (waiting for my paint slot to open up)
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation |
I agree with using the stock struts and see how they work for you. I have had stock
struts since the beginning. My doors have the Iflyrv10.com flush door handles
that probably add a little bit of weight, but not much. The originals lasted
about 5 years and 600 hours and then started getting just a bit weak in cold
conditions. They were OK in warm conditions. I ordered new stock struts from
Van's a couple of years ago and replaced them at the next condition inspection.
They are doing fine. I agree with Jesse in that I don't want to have a door
that will not stay down when not latched nor one that springs up aggressively
when unlatched.
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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation |
Tim said what I was thinking. If you've already bought them, then get the
useful life out of them. You've paid for it already. Then order some HD's
when you need them later on.
My standard ones lasted about 2.5 years and I'm replacing them this week.
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
wrote:
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> As time mentioned, the stock struts will work fine for you for a while if
> your door isn't built extra heavy. I have seen some doors that were so
> heavy the new standard struts wouldn't hold them open. On the other hand, I
> have seen strut brackets broken because the heavy duty strut was installed
> on a light-weight door and constantly slamming open eventually broke the
> bracket. The heavy duty struts on a standard door will open the door from
> all the way closed if it is unlatched. I don't like that. I want the door
> to open all the way when I lift it by hand, but I like to be able to lower
> it and have it stay down even if I don't latch it.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> > On Jan 12, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I agree. If you own them, you may as well use them for now. I've got
> > the same ones on that Van's sent me in what, 2005?? And they're still
> > working out. I think in the last year they are weakening a little,
> > but 9 years of flying for almost 1100 hours will do that I guess.
> > I have fabric applied to the door, so heavier materials may make
> > it worse and lighter materials or no materials may make it better.
> > I did paint the doors before applying fabric.
> >
> > So, you may as well try them.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/12/2015 3:06 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
> >>
> >> I would try the supplied struts first. I haven't had any issue with the
> >> supplied struts, but I think it depends on how much extra "stuff" is
> >> applied to the door interior.
> >>
> >> -Sean #40303 (waiting for my paint slot to open up)
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation |
Mine didn't even last till first flight. Bought 600N struts from
Bansbach. E2A1F50-100-290/600N.
Linn
On 1/12/2015 7:58 PM, Phillip Perry wrote:
> Tim said what I was thinking. If you've already bought them, then get
> the useful life out of them. You've paid for it already. Then order
> some HD's when you need them later on.
>
> My standard ones lasted about 2.5 years and I'm replacing them this week.
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com
> <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>> wrote:
>
> <jesse@saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>>
>
> As time mentioned, the stock struts will work fine for you for a
> while if your door isn't built extra heavy. I have seen some doors
> that were so heavy the new standard struts wouldn't hold them
> open. On the other hand, I have seen strut brackets broken because
> the heavy duty strut was installed on a light-weight door and
> constantly slamming open eventually broke the bracket. The heavy
> duty struts on a standard door will open the door from all the way
> closed if it is unlatched. I don't like that. I want the door to
> open all the way when I lift it by hand, but I like to be able to
> lower it and have it stay down even if I don't latch it.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>
> C: 352-427-0285 <tel:352-427-0285>
> F: 815-377-3694 <tel:815-377-3694>
>
> > On Jan 12, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
> >
> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>>
> >
> > I agree. If you own them, you may as well use them for now.
> I've got
> > the same ones on that Van's sent me in what, 2005?? And they're
> still
> > working out. I think in the last year they are weakening a little,
> > but 9 years of flying for almost 1100 hours will do that I guess.
> > I have fabric applied to the door, so heavier materials may make
> > it worse and lighter materials or no materials may make it better.
> > I did paint the doors before applying fabric.
> >
> > So, you may as well try them.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/12/2015 3:06 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
> <sean@stephensville.com <mailto:sean@stephensville.com>>
> >>
> >> I would try the supplied struts first. I haven't had any issue
> with the
> >> supplied struts, but I think it depends on how much extra
> "stuff" is
> >> applied to the door interior.
> >>
> >> -Sean #40303 (waiting for my paint slot to open up)
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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