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1. 06:16 AM - Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation (Vernon Franklin)
2. 06:58 AM - Re: Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation (Don McDonald)
3. 07:09 AM - Re: Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation (Tim Olson)
4. 07:17 AM - Re: Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation (g.combs)
5. 07:30 AM - Re: Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation (Alan Mekler MD)
6. 11:49 AM - Re: Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation (Patrick Pulis)
7. 02:23 PM - Re: Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation (Bob Leffler)
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation |
I had the same problem as Linn. The second I put the windows in the doors,
the struts were no longer strong enough to hold the doors open. Both of my
struts failed in this way. Van's just shrugged it off, and tried to sell
me the heavy duty struts for $130 each.
I went with Bansbach. Very quick turn around time.
easylift.com
Item #: AF051-077
Part Description: A1A1F50-100-287/600N
$48 each.
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> Mine didn't even last till first flight. Bought 600N struts from
> Bansbach. E2A1F50-100-290/600N.
> Linn
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> On 1/12/2015 7:58 PM, Phillip Perry wrote:
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> Tim said what I was thinking. If you've already bought them, then get the
> useful life out of them. You've paid for it already. Then order some HD's
> when you need them later on.
>
> My standard ones lasted about 2.5 years and I'm replacing them this week.
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
> wrote:
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>> As time mentioned, the stock struts will work fine for you for a while if
>> your door isn't built extra heavy. I have seen some doors that were so
>> heavy the new standard struts wouldn't hold them open. On the other hand, I
>> have seen strut brackets broken because the heavy duty strut was installed
>> on a light-weight door and constantly slamming open eventually broke the
>> bracket. The heavy duty struts on a standard door will open the door from
>> all the way closed if it is unlatched. I don't like that. I want the door
>> to open all the way when I lift it by hand, but I like to be able to lower
>> it and have it stay down even if I don't latch it.
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>> C: 352-427-0285
>> F: 815-377-3694
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>> > On Jan 12, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>> <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
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>> >
>> > I agree. If you own them, you may as well use them for now. I've got
>> > the same ones on that Van's sent me in what, 2005?? And they're still
>> > working out. I think in the last year they are weakening a little,
>> > but 9 years of flying for almost 1100 hours will do that I guess.
>> > I have fabric applied to the door, so heavier materials may make
>> > it worse and lighter materials or no materials may make it better.
>> > I did paint the doors before applying fabric.
>> >
>> > So, you may as well try them.
>> >
>> > Tim
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 1/12/2015 3:06 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I would try the supplied struts first. I haven't had any issue with
>> the
>> >> supplied struts, but I think it depends on how much extra "stuff" is
>> >> applied to the door interior.
>> >>
>> >> -Sean #40303 (waiting for my paint slot to open up)
>> >>
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation |
Tim, since yours have lasted so long.... do you leave the doors in the open
position when the plane is hangared?=C2- I try to do this as I think it
helps the seals.Don McDonald
From: "dmaib@me.com" <dmaib@me.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 4:03 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation
I agree with using the stock struts and see how they work for you. I have h
ad stock struts since the beginning. My doors have the Iflyrv10.com flush d
oor handles that probably add a little bit of weight, but not much. The ori
ginals lasted about 5 years and 600 hours and then started getting just a b
it weak in cold conditions. They were OK in warm conditions. I ordered new
stock struts from Van's a couple of years ago and replaced them at the next
condition inspection. They are doing fine. I agree with Jesse in that I do
n't want to have a door that will not stay down when not latched nor one th
at springs up aggressively when unlatched.
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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation |
Hi Don,
Yeah, generally I do. My hangar is sealed up pretty well and I don't
get birds or even much dust in it. So I leave the doors open.
I have closed them for extended periods a bunch of times, mind you,
but in general I leave them open.
I'm not sure why mine have lasted so long, but they have. I'm
sure I've got more hours left in them.
Tim
On 1/13/2015 8:56 AM, Don McDonald wrote:
> Tim, since yours have lasted so long.... do you leave the doors in the
> open position when the plane is hangared? I try to do this as I think
> it helps the seals.
> Don McDonald
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation |
Don that's a good thought about leaving them open. Mine lasted about 2 yrs. a
nd then they would barely hold the doors open. My doors had no fabric or ad
ditional
Locks at that time also. Heavy duty
Were much better.
As Tim said use the stock ones till they drop
Geoff
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Geoff Combs
Aerosport Modeling & Design
> On Jan 13, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com> wro
te:
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> Tim, since yours have lasted so long.... do you leave the doors in the ope
n position when the plane is hangared? I try to do this as I think it helps
the seals.
> Don McDonald
>
> From: "dmaib@me.com" <dmaib@me.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 4:03 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation
>
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> I agree with using the stock struts and see how they work for you. I have h
ad stock struts since the beginning. My doors have the Iflyrv10.com flush do
or handles that probably add a little bit of weight, but not much. The origi
nals lasted about 5 years and 600 hours and then started getting just a bit w
eak in cold conditions. They were OK in warm conditions. I ordered new stock
struts from Van's a couple of years ago and replaced them at the next condi
tion inspection. They are doing fine. I agree with Jesse in that I don't wan
t to have a door that will not stay down when not latched nor one that sprin
gs up aggressively when unlatched.
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> David Maib
> RV-10 #40559
> New Smyrna Beach, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation |
my standard struts lasted 4 years and still were ok unless i put the stratus 2
on them. so i replaced them with the heavy-duty ones.
alan
n668g
> On Jan 12, 2015, at 5:03 PM, dmaib@me.com wrote:
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>
> I agree with using the stock struts and see how they work for you. I have had
stock struts since the beginning. My doors have the Iflyrv10.com flush door handles
that probably add a little bit of weight, but not much. The originals lasted
about 5 years and 600 hours and then started getting just a bit weak in
cold conditions. They were OK in warm conditions. I ordered new stock struts from
Van's a couple of years ago and replaced them at the next condition inspection.
They are doing fine. I agree with Jesse in that I don't want to have a door
that will not stay down when not latched nor one that springs up aggressively
when unlatched.
>
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> David Maib
> RV-10 #40559
> New Smyrna Beach, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation |
Thanks for the great advice and shared experience once again guys.
I'm seeing a progressive end to this project (finally) and hope to meet most of
you during my travels to Oshkosh this coming July.
Thanks for all your help over the years.
Warm regards
Patrick
> On 14 Jan 2015, at 01:58, Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net> wrote:
>
>
> my standard struts lasted 4 years and still were ok unless i put the stratus
2 on them. so i replaced them with the heavy-duty ones.
> alan
> n668g
>> On Jan 12, 2015, at 5:03 PM, dmaib@me.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> I agree with using the stock struts and see how they work for you. I have had
stock struts since the beginning. My doors have the Iflyrv10.com flush door
handles that probably add a little bit of weight, but not much. The originals
lasted about 5 years and 600 hours and then started getting just a bit weak in
cold conditions. They were OK in warm conditions. I ordered new stock struts
from Van's a couple of years ago and replaced them at the next condition inspection.
They are doing fine. I agree with Jesse in that I don't want to have a
door that will not stay down when not latched nor one that springs up aggressively
when unlatched.
>>
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>> David Maib
>> RV-10 #40559
>> New Smyrna Beach, FL
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436922#436922
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation |
I actually had to start closing the doors. I kept finding dead flying crit
ters in the cabin. I still have a problem with flies in the hangar. It's
kind of funny to watch flies that barely have enough energy to fly a foot o
r two. I'm hoping the single digits we had last week did them all in.
Sent from my iPad
> On Jan 13, 2015, at 10:15 AM, g.combs <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> wrot
e:
>
> Don that's a good thought about leaving them open. Mine lasted about 2 yrs
. and then they would barely hold the doors open. My doors had no fabric or
additional
> Locks at that time also. Heavy duty
> Were much better.
> As Tim said use the stock ones till they drop
>
> Geoff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Geoff Combs
> Aerosport Modeling & Design
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>> On Jan 13, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com> wr
ote:
>>
>> Tim, since yours have lasted so long.... do you leave the doors in the op
en position when the plane is hangared? I try to do this as I think it help
s the seals.
>> Don McDonald
>>
>> From: "dmaib@me.com" <dmaib@me.com>
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 4:03 PM
>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Heavy Duty Gas Strut Installation
>>
>>
>> I agree with using the stock struts and see how they work for you. I have
had stock struts since the beginning. My doors have the Iflyrv10.com flush d
oor handles that probably add a little bit of weight, but not much. The orig
inals lasted about 5 years and 600 hours and then started getting just a bit
weak in cold conditions. They were OK in warm conditions. I ordered new sto
ck struts from Van's a couple of years ago and replaced them at the next con
dition inspection. They are doing fine. I agree with Jesse in that I don't w
ant to have a door that will not stay down when not latched nor one that spr
ings up aggressively when unlatched.
>>
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>> David Maib
>> RV-10 #40559
>> New Smyrna Beach, FL
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