---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/12/15: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:02 AM - How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (John Trollinger) 2. 06:10 AM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (Kelly McMullen) 3. 06:21 AM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist () 4. 06:22 AM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (Jesse Saint) 5. 06:33 AM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (Sean Stephens) 6. 06:40 AM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (Marcus Cooper) 7. 06:59 AM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (Tim Olson) 8. 07:10 AM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (g.combs) 9. 07:13 AM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (Carl Froehlich) 10. 07:17 AM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (Marcus Cooper) 11. 07:29 AM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (Tim Olson) 12. 07:39 AM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (Rob Kochman) 13. 07:42 AM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (Marcus Cooper) 14. 07:53 AM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (Linn Walters) 15. 08:22 AM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (rleffler) 16. 07:49 PM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (Kelly McMullen) 17. 07:56 PM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (woxofswa) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:42 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist From: John Trollinger I am getting ready to do the nose wheel SB and am trying to figure out a good way to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist. I do have wing jacks I could use somewhere or try and pull the tail down with weights. Just trying to see what others might have done. thanks, John ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:29 AM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist Check around your airport. A large number of aircraft owners have hoists. New ones are usually available at auto parts stores for less than $150, and somewhat less from Harbor Freight. Money well spent rather than trying to do something risky with your valuable airframe. Not to mention risk of injury. On 3/12/2015 6:00 AM, John Trollinger wrote: > I am getting ready to do the nose wheel SB and am trying to figure out > a good way to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist. I do have > wing jacks I could use somewhere or try and pull the tail down with > weights. Just trying to see what others might have done. > > thanks, > > John > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:45 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist Hey John, Good timing, we just did this yesterday. We pulled the tail down with the tie down. Enough to get the bolt out of the top of shock unit, then took the bottom bolt out so that the doughnuts came out as a unit. Put the plate in, put the unit back in, put bottom bolt in, then released the tail, then jacked the tail up enough to compress the doughnuts with SB plate (acts as slight new washer), put top bolt in ... done. Later, =93 Lew From: John Trollinger Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:00 AM Subject: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist I am getting ready to do the nose wheel SB and am trying to figure out a good way to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist. I do have wing jacks I could use somewhere or try and pull the tail down with weights. Just trying to see what others might have done. thanks, John ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:05 AM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist Pulling the tail down works great. If you have a good solid tie-down in the f loor, then holding the tail down while someone ties it down works fine. You n eed the tail close to the floor to clear up front. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. 352-427-0285 jesse@saintaviation.com Sent from my iPad > On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:00 AM, John Trollinger wrote: > > I am getting ready to do the nose wheel SB and am trying to figure out a g ood way to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist. I do have wing jack s I could use somewhere or try and pull the tail down with weights. 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Works really well. -Sean #40303 (waiting for painter slot) Kelly McMullen wrote: > Check around your airport. A large number of aircraft owners have > hoists. New ones are usually available at auto parts stores for less > than $150, and somewhat less from Harbor Freight. Money well spent > rather than trying to do something risky with your valuable airframe. > Not to mention risk of injury. > > On 3/12/2015 6:00 AM, John Trollinger wrote: >> I am getting ready to do the nose wheel SB and am trying to figure >> out a good way to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist. I do >> have wing jacks I could use somewhere or try and pull the tail down >> with weights. Just trying to see what others might have done. >> >> thanks, >> >> John >> * ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:15 AM PST US From: Marcus Cooper Subject: Re: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist Getting ready to do this as well, thanks for the suggestions. Just curious what, if anything, folks are putting on the plate? I=99ve ready before preseal or red silicone. Wondering if there are any further thoughts? Marcus On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:19 AM, wrote: Hey John, Good timing, we just did this yesterday. We pulled the tail down with the tie down. Enough to get the bolt out of the top of shock unit, then took the bottom bolt out so that the doughnuts came out as a unit. Put the plate in, put the unit back in, put bottom bolt in, then released the tail, then jacked the tail up enough to compress the doughnuts with SB plate (acts as slight new washer), put top bolt in ... done. Later, =93 Lew From: John Trollinger Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:00 AM Subject: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist I am getting ready to do the nose wheel SB and am trying to figure out a good way to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist. I do have wing jacks I could use somewhere or try and pull the tail down with weights. Just trying to see what others might have done. thanks, John href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:49 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist I do the same exact thing. I cut a 1'x1' square out of my hangar floor and embedded a large turnbuckle in concrete flush with the floor. So i thread in the eyelet and crank it down with a come along jack. Much easier than a hoist, and less easy to damage the plane. My hoist is stored behind the plane and just rolling that out and folding out the legs is a bigger hazard. Tim > On Mar 12, 2015, at 8:31 AM, Sean Stephens wrote: > > > I have an eye-bolt in the hangar floor that I attach to with the tail tie-down using a come along (http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?q=come+along). Works really well. > > -Sean #40303 (waiting for painter slot) > > Kelly McMullen wrote: >> Check around your airport. A large number of aircraft owners have hoists. New ones are usually available at auto parts stores for less than $150, and somewhat less from Harbor Freight. Money well spent rather than trying to do something risky with your valuable airframe. Not to mention risk of injury. >> >>> On 3/12/2015 6:00 AM, John Trollinger wrote: >>> I am getting ready to do the nose wheel SB and am trying to figure out a good way to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist. I do have wing jacks I could use somewhere or try and pull the tail down with weights. Just trying to see what others might have done. >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> John >>> * > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:34 AM PST US From: "g.combs" Subject: Re: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist I bought a furniture dolly at harbor freight added center board with nice eye bolt and then added solid concrete blocks and left room to get an 1.5 inch rachet strap down to the eye bolt. this way I can pull the tail down were ever it is. Works great. I can roll it around very easy And store it in the corner. Takes up More room than the eye bolt in the Concrete but more adjustable. Just another idea that works Geoff Sent from my iPhone Geoff Combs Aerosport Modeling & Design > On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:06 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > > Check around your airport. A large number of aircraft owners have hoists. New ones are usually available at auto parts stores for less than $150, and somewhat less from Harbor Freight. Money well spent rather than trying to do something risky with your valuable airframe. Not to mention risk of injury. > >> On 3/12/2015 6:00 AM, John Trollinger wrote: >> I am getting ready to do the nose wheel SB and am trying to figure out a good way to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist. I do have wing jacks I could use somewhere or try and pull the tail down with weights. Just trying to see what others might have done. >> >> thanks, >> >> John >> * >> >> >> * > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:23 AM PST US From: "Carl Froehlich" Subject: RE: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist I used proseal =93 works fine. I do not consider it safe to use the tail tie down bolt to pull down the tail. Remember this tie down is a light piece of threaded aluminum =93 that you cut the threads for. The risk is the eye bolt pulling out and you dropping the prop and engine onto the hangar floor. A Harbor Freight engine hoist is exceptionally cheap compared to recovering from a nose crash even if you are not hurt. The hoist will be used at least for every annual as well when you pull the nose wheel to grease the bearings. Carl From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:37 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist Getting ready to do this as well, thanks for the suggestions. Just curious what, if anything, folks are putting on the plate? I=99ve ready before preseal or red silicone. Wondering if there are any further thoughts? Marcus On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:19 AM, wrote: Hey John, Good timing, we just did this yesterday. We pulled the tail down with the tie down. Enough to get the bolt out of the top of shock unit, then took the bottom bolt out so that the doughnuts came out as a unit. Put the plate in, put the unit back in, put bottom bolt in, then released the tail, then jacked the tail up enough to compress the doughnuts with SB plate (acts as slight new washer), put top bolt in ... done. Later, =93 Lew From: John Trollinger Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:00 AM Subject: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist I am getting ready to do the nose wheel SB and am trying to figure out a good way to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist. I do have wing jacks I could use somewhere or try and pull the tail down with weights. Just trying to see what others might have done. thanks, John href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c class="">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List class="">http://forums.matronics.com class="">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:17:48 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist From: Marcus Cooper I havent tried it yet, but in the past some folks recommended filing a plastic tote with concrete and imbedding a hook in it. Sounds like a nice alternative to those of us without a eyelet in our hangar floor or the option to add one but can still pull the tail down. Marcus On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Tim Olson wrote: I do the same exact thing. I cut a 1'x1' square out of my hangar floor and embedded a large turnbuckle in concrete flush with the floor. So i thread in the eyelet and crank it down with a come along jack. Much easier than a hoist, and less easy to damage the plane. My hoist is stored behind the plane and just rolling that out and folding out the legs is a bigger hazard. Tim > On Mar 12, 2015, at 8:31 AM, Sean Stephens wrote: > > > I have an eye-bolt in the hangar floor that I attach to with the tail tie-down using a come along (http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?q=come+along). Works really well. > > -Sean #40303 (waiting for painter slot) > > Kelly McMullen wrote: >> Check around your airport. A large number of aircraft owners have hoists. New ones are usually available at auto parts stores for less than $150, and somewhat less from Harbor Freight. Money well spent rather than trying to do something risky with your valuable airframe. Not to mention risk of injury. >> >>> On 3/12/2015 6:00 AM, John Trollinger wrote: >>> I am getting ready to do the nose wheel SB and am trying to figure out a good way to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist. I do have wing jacks I could use somewhere or try and pull the tail down with weights. Just trying to see what others might have done. >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> John >>> * > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:29:03 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist Yeah, Geoff's idea is great, and a tote would work too. Regarding Carl's not trusting the threads, I think the threads are plenty tough for the job. It takes less than 250 lbs for sure to raise the nose. Depending on the way the aircraft is loaded (you could add weight to the baggage area), I'm guessing you can raise the nose by pulling that bolt with anywhere from 75 to 200 lbs of force max. If the tiedown can't hold that, then we shouldn't be tying down with it, and if the tail can't hold that, I'm not sure I'd trust the airframe. Tim On 3/12/2015 9:14 AM, Marcus Cooper wrote: > > I havent tried it yet, but in the past some folks recommended filing a plastic tote with concrete and imbedding a hook in it. Sounds like a nice alternative to those of us without a eyelet in our hangar floor or the option to add one but can still pull the tail down. > > Marcus > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:39:45 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist From: Rob Kochman When I did mine, I put enough heavy stuff in the baggage area that I think I needed only about 50lbs of force on the tiedown to get the wheel off the floor. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > Yeah, Geoff's idea is great, and a tote would work too. > Regarding Carl's not trusting the threads, I think the threads > are plenty tough for the job. It takes less than 250 lbs > for sure to raise the nose. Depending on the way the aircraft > is loaded (you could add weight to the baggage area), I'm guessing > you can raise the nose by pulling that bolt with anywhere from > 75 to 200 lbs of force max. If the tiedown can't hold that, > then we shouldn't be tying down with it, and if the tail can't > hold that, I'm not sure I'd trust the airframe. > > Tim > > > On 3/12/2015 9:14 AM, Marcus Cooper wrote: > >> >> I haven=99t tried it yet, but in the past some folks recommended f iling a >> plastic tote with concrete and imbedding a hook in it. Sounds like a ni ce >> alternative to those of us without a eyelet in our hangar floor or the >> option to add one but can still pull the tail down. >> >> Marcus >> >> > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying since March 2011 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:34 AM PST US From: Marcus Cooper Subject: Re: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist One question on using proseal or any other bonding agent, what is the purpose for it? Once the plate is in place I can=99t imagine it=99s going to move around any given the pressures involved. Is there another benefit? The SB does not mention using anything. FWIW the SB also recommends the use of a =9Cballasted tail stand=9D so the company does not seem to find an issue with that method of pulling the tail down. As always, thanks for all the great insight on this forum, Marcus On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Carl Froehlich wrote: I used proseal =93 works fine. I do not consider it safe to use the tail tie down bolt to pull down the tail. Remember this tie down is a light piece of threaded aluminum =93 that you cut the threads for. The risk is the eye bolt pulling out and you dropping the prop and engine onto the hangar floor. A Harbor Freight engine hoist is exceptionally cheap compared to recovering from a nose crash even if you are not hurt. The hoist will be used at least for every annual as well when you pull the nose wheel to grease the bearings. Carl From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:37 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist Getting ready to do this as well, thanks for the suggestions. Just curious what, if anything, folks are putting on the plate? I=99ve ready before preseal or red silicone. Wondering if there are any further thoughts? Marcus On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:19 AM, > > wrote: Hey John, Good timing, we just did this yesterday. We pulled the tail down with the tie down. Enough to get the bolt out of the top of shock unit, then took the bottom bolt out so that the doughnuts came out as a unit. Put the plate in, put the unit back in, put bottom bolt in, then released the tail, then jacked the tail up enough to compress the doughnuts with SB plate (acts as slight new washer), put top bolt in ... done. Later, =93 Lew From: John Trollinger Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:00 AM Subject: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist I am getting ready to do the nose wheel SB and am trying to figure out a good way to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist. I do have wing jacks I could use somewhere or try and pull the tail down with weights. Just trying to see what others might have done. thanks, John href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ">http://www.matronics.com/N avigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com ">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution ">http://www.matronics.com/c class="">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List class="">http://forums.matronics.com class="">http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:53:31 AM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist The tiedown attachment in the tail is pretty robust but if you have concerns about the amount of threads captured by the tiedown ring's shaft, use a longer bolt and make a temporary tiedown attachment so you can pull the tail down. The 'receiver' for the tiedown ring goes way there! The other method is to place sandbags on the horizontal stab and/or the fuselage fwd of the vertical stab. Lay the bags (I use bags of salt for my water softener because I have them) along the spar to spread the load. Linn On 3/12/2015 10:10 AM, Carl Froehlich wrote: > > I used proseal works fine. > > I do not consider it safe to use the tail tie down bolt to pull down > the tail. Remember this tie down is a light piece of threaded > aluminum that you cut the threads for. The risk is the eye bolt > pulling out and you dropping the prop and engine onto the hangar > floor. A Harbor Freight engine hoist is exceptionally cheap compared > to recovering from a nose crash even if you are not hurt. The hoist > will be used at least for every annual as well when you pull the nose > wheel to grease the bearings. > > Carl > > *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcus Cooper > *Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:37 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine > hoist > > Getting ready to do this as well, thanks for the suggestions. Just > curious what, if anything, folks are putting on the plate? Ive ready > before preseal or red silicone. Wondering if there are any further > thoughts? > > Marcus > > On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:19 AM, > > wrote: > > Hey John, > > Good timing, we just did this yesterday. We pulled the tail down with > the tie down. Enough to get the bolt out of the top of shock unit, > then took the bottom bolt out so that the doughnuts came out as a > unit. Put the plate in, put the unit back in, put bottom bolt in, > then released the tail, then jacked the tail up enough to compress the > doughnuts with SB plate (acts as slight new washer), put top bolt in > ... done. > > Later, Lew > > *From:*John Trollinger > > *Sent:*Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:00 AM > > *To:*rv10-list@matronics.com > > *Subject:*RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist > > I am getting ready to do the nose wheel SB and am trying to figure out > a good way to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist. I do have > wing jacks I could use somewhere or try and pull the tail down with > weights. Just trying to see what others might have done. > > thanks, > > John > > * * > * * > *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List* > *href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com* > *href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > * * > * * > *class="">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List* > *class="">http://forums.matronics.com* > *class="">http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > * * > > * * > * * > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List* > ** > ** > *http://forums.matronics.com* > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > ** > * * > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:22:40 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist From: "rleffler" I copied Geoff's approach a couple years ago. It works great. I just did the SB this past weekend. Getting the nose off the ground was the easy part. Here's a photo: -------- Bob Leffler N410BL - Phase I http://mykitlog.com/rleffler Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439296#439296 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fp25032012a00055_152.jpg ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:49:41 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist From: Kelly McMullen I know it is popular for homebuilders to invent their own solutions. However, most certified manufacturers do not approve of winching on the tail tiedown and discourage using it as an anchor to lever the nose up. They are designed to secure the tail at a 45 degree pull angle for forces the horizontal stab can generate, not a direct pull vertically or horizontally. Yes, it probably is strong enough if Murphy doesn't visit. You have a $150,000 and up aircraft. Virtually everyone had access to a hoist to install the engine. You can generally find hoists for not much over $100 to buy, new. In other words about the cost of an hour's flight or a tungsten bucking bar. Do you really want to risk damage to something you worked so hard to build? On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Linn Walters wrote : > The tiedown attachment in the tail is pretty robust but if you have > concerns about the amount of threads captured by the tiedown ring's shaft , > use a longer bolt and make a temporary tiedown attachment so you can pull > the tail down. The 'receiver' for the tiedown ring goes way there! > > The other method is to place sandbags on the horizontal stab and/or the > fuselage fwd of the vertical stab. Lay the bags (I use bags of salt for my > water softener because I have them) along the spar to spread the load. > Linn > > > On 3/12/2015 10:10 AM, Carl Froehlich wrote: > > I used proseal =93 works fine. > > > I do not consider it safe to use the tail tie down bolt to pull down the > tail. Remember this tie down is a light piece of threaded aluminum =93 that > you cut the threads for. The risk is the eye bolt pulling out and you > dropping the prop and engine onto the hangar floor. A Harbor Freight > engine hoist is exceptionally cheap compared to recovering from a nose > crash even if you are not hurt. The hoist will be used at least for ever y > annual as well when you pull the nose wheel to grease the bearings. > > > Carl > > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [ > mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > ] *On Behalf Of *Marcus Cooper > *Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:37 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine > hoist > > > Getting ready to do this as well, thanks for the suggestions. Just > curious what, if anything, folks are putting on the plate? I=99ve ready > before preseal or red silicone. Wondering if there are any further > thoughts? > > > Marcus > > > On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:19 AM, > wrote: > > > Hey John, > > > Good timing, we just did this yesterday. We pulled the tail down with th e > tie down. Enough to get the bolt out of the top of shock unit, then took > the bottom bolt out so that the doughnuts came out as a unit. Put the > plate in, put the unit back in, put bottom bolt in, then released the tai l, > then jacked the tail up enough to compress the doughnuts with SB plate > (acts as slight new washer), put top bolt in ... done. > > > Later, =93 Lew > > > *From:* John Trollinger > > *Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:00 AM > > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > > *Subject:* RV10-List: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist > > > I am getting ready to do the nose wheel SB and am trying to figure out a > good way to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist. I do have wing > jacks I could use somewhere or try and pull the tail down with weights. > Just trying to see what others might have done. > > > thanks, > > > John > > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List < http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List>* > > *href="http://forums.matronics.com ">http: //forums.matronics.com * > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution ">http://www.matronics.com/c * > > > *class="">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List * > > *class="">http://forums.matronics.com * > > *class="">http://www.matronics.com/contribution * > > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List * > > *http://forums.matronics.com * > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution * > > > * > =========== onics.com/Navigator?RV10-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:56:35 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist From: "woxofswa" I did mine yesterday using a 2x6 between two wing jacks right behind the firewall. Worked great, but in hindsight would have been just as easy with a single jack. You don't have to lift high at all. Be sure to chock the mains. One advantage of lifting from the front is that it was super simple to make tiny adjustments to get the bolts back lined up again. -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Flew May 10 2014 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439306#439306 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.