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1. 07:25 AM - Re: Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (Craig Rufi)
2. 07:43 AM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (woxofswa)
3. 08:00 AM - Re: Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (David Saylor)
4. 08:03 AM - Re: Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (David Saylor)
5. 08:28 AM - Re: Has Low cost ADS-B arrived? (AirMike)
6. 08:45 AM - Re: Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (Tim Olson)
7. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: Has Low cost ADS-B arrived? (Kelly McMullen)
8. 09:40 AM - Re: Re: Has Low cost ADS-B arrived? (Dj Merrill)
9. 11:13 AM - Re: Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (Craig Rufi)
10. 11:24 AM - Re: Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (David Saylor)
11. 11:33 AM - Re: Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (Craig Rufi)
12. 12:05 PM - Re: Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (Kelly McMullen)
13. 12:33 PM - Re: Has Low cost ADS-B arrived? (Bob Turner)
14. 12:39 PM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (Bob Turner)
15. 04:26 PM - Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist (woxofswa)
16. 05:22 PM - Re: Blue Sky visors? (woxofswa)
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| Subject: | Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist |
Hi All'
I plan on reducing the load on the tie down by adding about 80 lbs in the
baggage compartment. I also was thinking of 40 lbs on either side of the
vertical stabilizer.
Thoughts?
I'm getting closer to the finish line!
Craig Rufi
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>
> I'd say you're both right, in some circumstances.(!)
> If you're talking about the structure (tailcone, spars, etc) then the
> ideal physics analysis is very good. At 45 degrees, 71% (actually one over
> the square root of two) of the force is vertical, and an equal amount is
> horizontal.
> But if you're talking about pulling out the threads, it is more
> complicated. The horizontal force will cause the bolt to pivot slightly,
> "locking" the bottom and top of the bolt deeper into the threads, where
> they are thicker, and thus have a lot more strength in tension. To
> visualize this, imagine that the tail had been tapped oversize, so the
> threads of the bolt just barely grabbed.
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439382#439382
>
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| Subject: | Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist |
>>Hi All'I plan on reducing the load on the tie down by adding about 80 lbs in
the baggage compartment. I also was thinking of 40 lbs on either side of the vertical
stabilizer.
--------
Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Flew May 10 2014
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| Subject: | Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist |
I use bags of water softener salt to weight the tail and other things. The
plastic 40# bags are tough, and convenient. Find the brand with built in
handles. Use some care to make sure they don't slide off when the angle
changes, and of course make sure they pick up the structure of the stab.
You'll be fine.
They belt in to the seats pretty well too when you do gross weight
testing. We would duct tape several together to make them body-size.
Then, make REALLY sure it's well secured so that Sal doesn't slump forward
on the controls...
--Dave
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Craig Rufi <craigr60@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All'
> I plan on reducing the load on the tie down by adding about 80 lbs in the
> baggage compartment. I also was thinking of 40 lbs on either side of the
> vertical stabilizer.
> Thoughts?
> I'm getting closer to the finish line!
>
> Craig Rufi
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'd say you're both right, in some circumstances.(!)
>> If you're talking about the structure (tailcone, spars, etc) then the
>> ideal physics analysis is very good. At 45 degrees, 71% (actually one over
>> the square root of two) of the force is vertical, and an equal amount is
>> horizontal.
>> But if you're talking about pulling out the threads, it is more
>> complicated. The horizontal force will cause the bolt to pivot slightly,
>> "locking" the bottom and top of the bolt deeper into the threads, where
>> they are thicker, and thus have a lot more strength in tension. To
>> visualize this, imagine that the tail had been tapped oversize, so the
>> threads of the bolt just barely grabbed.
>>
>> --------
>> Bob Turner
>> RV-10 QB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439382#439382
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist |
I use bags of water softener salt to weight the tail and other things. The
plastic 40# bags are tough, and convenient. Find the brand with built in
handles. Use some care to make sure they don't slide off when the angle
changes, and of course make sure they pick up the structure of the stab.
You'll be fine.
They belt in to the seats pretty well too when you do gross weight
testing. We would duct tape several together to make them body-size.
Then, make REALLY sure it's well secured so that Sal doesn't slump forward
on the controls...
--Dave
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Craig Rufi <craigr60@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All'
> I plan on reducing the load on the tie down by adding about 80 lbs in the
> baggage compartment. I also was thinking of 40 lbs on either side of the
> vertical stabilizer.
> Thoughts?
> I'm getting closer to the finish line!
>
> Craig Rufi
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'd say you're both right, in some circumstances.(!)
>> If you're talking about the structure (tailcone, spars, etc) then the
>> ideal physics analysis is very good. At 45 degrees, 71% (actually one over
>> the square root of two) of the force is vertical, and an equal amount is
>> horizontal.
>> But if you're talking about pulling out the threads, it is more
>> complicated. The horizontal force will cause the bolt to pivot slightly,
>> "locking" the bottom and top of the bolt deeper into the threads, where
>> they are thicker, and thus have a lot more strength in tension. To
>> visualize this, imagine that the tail had been tapped oversize, so the
>> threads of the bolt just barely grabbed.
>>
>> --------
>> Bob Turner
>> RV-10 QB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439382#439382
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ==========
>> -List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> ==========
>> FORUMS -
>> _blank">http://forums.matronics.com
>> ==========
>> b Site -
>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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>>
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| Subject: | Re: Has Low cost ADS-B arrived? |
My intuition tells me that this unit resides in the same squishy area as IFR navigation
equipment for EAB aircraft, and my guess is that if you put one of these
in your EAB aircraft, that there will be no squealing from the powers that
be. After all we are not exactly (for the most part) flying high performance
turbine equipment. Modern GPS - even in my I-Pad updates way faster than the FAA's
antiquated mode C - transponder system. Kudos to these guys for getting this
on the shelf for us to meet the 2020 deadline. :D
--------
See you OSH '15
Q/B - flying 5 yrs.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439410#439410
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| Subject: | Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist |
I would skip it on the stabilizer. Too much chance of bending thin skins an
d it would be easier for it to fall off and lose that weight. Just throw it
in the baggage area and you'll be fine.
Tim
> On Mar 15, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Craig Rufi <craigr60@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All'
> I plan on reducing the load on the tie down by adding about 80 lbs in the b
aggage compartment. I also was thinking of 40 lbs on either side of the vert
ical stabilizer.
> Thoughts?
> I'm getting closer to the finish line!
>
> Craig Rufi
>
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wro
te:
>>
>> I'd say you're both right, in some circumstances.(!)
>> If you're talking about the structure (tailcone, spars, etc) then the ide
al physics analysis is very good. At 45 degrees, 71% (actually one over the s
quare root of two) of the force is vertical, and an equal amount is horizont
al.
>> But if you're talking about pulling out the threads, it is more complicat
ed. The horizontal force will cause the bolt to pivot slightly, "locking" th
e bottom and top of the bolt deeper into the threads, where they are thicker
, and thus have a lot more strength in tension. To visualize this, imagine t
hat the tail had been tapped oversize, so the threads of the bolt just barel
y grabbed.
>>
>> --------
>> Bob Turner
>> RV-10 QB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439382#439382
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ==========
>> -List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> ==========
>> FORUMS -
>> _blank">http://forums.matronics.com
>> ==========
>> b Site -
>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> ==========
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Has Low cost ADS-B arrived? |
There are GPS performance specs as to accuracy as to location, heading
and ground speed, frequency of update, etc. Your Ipad is very unlikely
to meet those specs. Most decent WAAS GPS modules today receive at least
12 satellites simultaneously, apply WAAS correction, and output updates
5 times per second. No relationship to radar and transponders which
update once per 6 seconds at best.
The guts of a GPS that does the above cost under $50 in quantity. Apple
chose a different route, using cell phone towers and a cheap non-WAAS
GPS to derive position. I don't know if they improved the GPS as newer
models came out. They still use cell phone tower locations to massage
the location, something the FAA would not accept.
On 3/15/2015 8:26 AM, AirMike wrote:
>
> My intuition tells me that this unit resides in the same squishy area as IFR
navigation equipment for EAB aircraft, and my guess is that if you put one of
these in your EAB aircraft, that there will be no squealing from the powers that
be. After all we are not exactly (for the most part) flying high performance
turbine equipment. Modern GPS - even in my I-Pad updates way faster than the
FAA's antiquated mode C - transponder system. Kudos to these guys for getting
this on the shelf for us to meet the 2020 deadline. :D
>
> --------
> See you OSH '15
> Q/B - flying 5 yrs.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439410#439410
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Has Low cost ADS-B arrived? |
On 3/15/2015 12:24 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> The guts of a GPS that does the above cost under $50 in quantity.
> Apple chose a different route, using cell phone towers and a cheap
> non-WAAS GPS to derive position. I don't know if they improved the
> GPS as newer models came out.
They did. The newer models (I believe iPad 2 was the first) all use
WAAS GPS chipsets and do not require cell towers for assistance.
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill - N1JOV - EAA Chapter 87
Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/
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| Subject: | Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist |
Thanks Dave,
When you say,"pick up the structure of the stabilizer" I'm taking that to
mean close to the vertical stabilizer, and balanced on both sides. There
the ribs are closer together and a stronger surface for the bags to rest on.
My pool also needs a little more salt too:-))
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 7:57 AM, David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com> wrote:
> I use bags of water softener salt to weight the tail and other things.
> The plastic 40# bags are tough, and convenient. Find the brand with built
> in handles. Use some care to make sure they don't slide off when the angle
> changes, and of course make sure they pick up the structure of the stab.
> You'll be fine.
>
> They belt in to the seats pretty well too when you do gross weight
> testing. We would duct tape several together to make them body-size.
> Then, make REALLY sure it's well secured so that Sal doesn't slump forward
> on the controls...
>
> --Dave
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Craig Rufi <craigr60@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All'
>> I plan on reducing the load on the tie down by adding about 80 lbs in the
>> baggage compartment. I also was thinking of 40 lbs on either side of the
>> vertical stabilizer.
>> Thoughts?
>> I'm getting closer to the finish line!
>>
>> Craig Rufi
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'd say you're both right, in some circumstances.(!)
>>> If you're talking about the structure (tailcone, spars, etc) then the
>>> ideal physics analysis is very good. At 45 degrees, 71% (actually one over
>>> the square root of two) of the force is vertical, and an equal amount is
>>> horizontal.
>>> But if you're talking about pulling out the threads, it is more
>>> complicated. The horizontal force will cause the bolt to pivot slightly,
>>> "locking" the bottom and top of the bolt deeper into the threads, where
>>> they are thicker, and thus have a lot more strength in tension. To
>>> visualize this, imagine that the tail had been tapped oversize, so the
>>> threads of the bolt just barely grabbed.
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Bob Turner
>>> RV-10 QB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439382#439382
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ==========
>>> -List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>>> ==========
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>>> _blank">http://forums.matronics.com
>>> ==========
>>> b Site -
>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>> ==========
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist |
Kind of. I mean make sure you have contact with the spars and as many ribs
as possible. And yes, as close to the root as you can. --D
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Craig Rufi <craigr60@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Dave,
> When you say,"pick up the structure of the stabilizer" I'm taking that to
> mean close to the vertical stabilizer, and balanced on both sides. There
> the ribs are closer together and a stronger surface for the bags to rest on.
>
> My pool also needs a little more salt too:-))
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 7:57 AM, David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I use bags of water softener salt to weight the tail and other things.
>> The plastic 40# bags are tough, and convenient. Find the brand with built
>> in handles. Use some care to make sure they don't slide off when the angle
>> changes, and of course make sure they pick up the structure of the stab.
>> You'll be fine.
>>
>> They belt in to the seats pretty well too when you do gross weight
>> testing. We would duct tape several together to make them body-size.
>> Then, make REALLY sure it's well secured so that Sal doesn't slump forward
>> on the controls...
>>
>> --Dave
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Craig Rufi <craigr60@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All'
>>> I plan on reducing the load on the tie down by adding about 80 lbs in
>>> the baggage compartment. I also was thinking of 40 lbs on either side of
>>> the vertical stabilizer.
>>> Thoughts?
>>> I'm getting closer to the finish line!
>>>
>>> Craig Rufi
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd say you're both right, in some circumstances.(!)
>>>> If you're talking about the structure (tailcone, spars, etc) then the
>>>> ideal physics analysis is very good. At 45 degrees, 71% (actually one over
>>>> the square root of two) of the force is vertical, and an equal amount is
>>>> horizontal.
>>>> But if you're talking about pulling out the threads, it is more
>>>> complicated. The horizontal force will cause the bolt to pivot slightly,
>>>> "locking" the bottom and top of the bolt deeper into the threads, where
>>>> they are thicker, and thus have a lot more strength in tension. To
>>>> visualize this, imagine that the tail had been tapped oversize, so the
>>>> threads of the bolt just barely grabbed.
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>> Bob Turner
>>>> RV-10 QB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439382#439382
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> -List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>>>> ==========
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>>>> _blank">http://forums.matronics.com
>>>> ==========
>>>> b Site -
>>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>>>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>> ==========
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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| Subject: | Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist |
We are on the same page!
Thanks,
Craig Rufi
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:21 AM, David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Kind of. I mean make sure you have contact with the spars and as many
> ribs as possible. And yes, as close to the root as you can. --D
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Craig Rufi <craigr60@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Dave,
>> When you say,"pick up the structure of the stabilizer" I'm taking that to
>> mean close to the vertical stabilizer, and balanced on both sides. There
>> the ribs are closer together and a stronger surface for the bags to rest on.
>>
>> My pool also needs a little more salt too:-))
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 7:57 AM, David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I use bags of water softener salt to weight the tail and other things.
>>> The plastic 40# bags are tough, and convenient. Find the brand with built
>>> in handles. Use some care to make sure they don't slide off when the angle
>>> changes, and of course make sure they pick up the structure of the stab.
>>> You'll be fine.
>>>
>>> They belt in to the seats pretty well too when you do gross weight
>>> testing. We would duct tape several together to make them body-size.
>>> Then, make REALLY sure it's well secured so that Sal doesn't slump forward
>>> on the controls...
>>>
>>> --Dave
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Craig Rufi <craigr60@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All'
>>>> I plan on reducing the load on the tie down by adding about 80 lbs in
>>>> the baggage compartment. I also was thinking of 40 lbs on either side of
>>>> the vertical stabilizer.
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> I'm getting closer to the finish line!
>>>>
>>>> Craig Rufi
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd say you're both right, in some circumstances.(!)
>>>>> If you're talking about the structure (tailcone, spars, etc) then the
>>>>> ideal physics analysis is very good. At 45 degrees, 71% (actually one over
>>>>> the square root of two) of the force is vertical, and an equal amount is
>>>>> horizontal.
>>>>> But if you're talking about pulling out the threads, it is more
>>>>> complicated. The horizontal force will cause the bolt to pivot slightly,
>>>>> "locking" the bottom and top of the bolt deeper into the threads, where
>>>>> they are thicker, and thus have a lot more strength in tension. To
>>>>> visualize this, imagine that the tail had been tapped oversize, so the
>>>>> threads of the bolt just barely grabbed.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------
>>>>> Bob Turner
>>>>> RV-10 QB
>>>>>
>>>>>
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| Subject: | Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist |
Be very careful with bags of salt. They are typically abused in their
delivery to retail store shelves, and frequently have small tears that
let salt out. Extremely corrosive to your aircraft. It doesn't take but
a bit of powder out of one of those bags. And they are heavy enough it
doesn't take much abrasion to put a small, barely noticeable hole in a
bag. I've seen corrosion in car trunks and pickup beds from that.
I agree with Tim, either put it all in baggage compartment, or put some
plywood or similar on stabilizer to spread load and prevent damage there.
Sand bags or collapsible water jugs are preferable.
On 3/15/2015 11:30 AM, Craig Rufi wrote:
> We are on the same page!
> Thanks,
> Craig Rufi
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:21 AM, David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com
> <mailto:saylor.dave@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Kind of. I mean make sure you have contact with the spars and as
> many ribs as possible. And yes, as close to the root as you can. --D
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Craig Rufi <craigr60@gmail.com
> <mailto:craigr60@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Thanks Dave,
> When you say,"pick up the structure of the stabilizer" I'm
> taking that to mean close to the vertical stabilizer, and
> balanced on both sides. There the ribs are closer together and
> a stronger surface for the bags to rest on.
>
> My pool also needs a little more salt too:-))
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 7:57 AM, David Saylor
> <saylor.dave@gmail.com <mailto:saylor.dave@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I use bags of water softener salt to weight the tail and
> other things. The plastic 40# bags are tough, and
> convenient. Find the brand with built in handles. Use
> some care to make sure they don't slide off when the angle
> changes, and of course make sure they pick up the
> structure of the stab. You'll be fine.
>
> They belt in to the seats pretty well too when you do
> gross weight testing. We would duct tape several together
> to make them body-size. Then, make REALLY sure it's well
> secured so that Sal doesn't slump forward on the controls...
>
> --Dave
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Craig Rufi
> <craigr60@gmail.com <mailto:craigr60@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi All'
> I plan on reducing the load on the tie down by adding
> about 80 lbs in the baggage compartment. I also was
> thinking of 40 lbs on either side of the vertical
> stabilizer.
> Thoughts?
> I'm getting closer to the finish line!
>
> Craig Rufi
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Bob Turner
> <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu
> <mailto:bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>> wrote:
>
> <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu
> <mailto:bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>>
>
> I'd say you're both right, in some circumstances.(!)
> If you're talking about the structure (tailcone,
> spars, etc) then the ideal physics analysis is
> very good. At 45 degrees, 71% (actually one over
> the square root of two) of the force is vertical,
> and an equal amount is horizontal.
> But if you're talking about pulling out the
> threads, it is more complicated. The horizontal
> force will cause the bolt to pivot slightly,
> "locking" the bottom and top of the bolt deeper
> into the threads, where they are thicker, and thus
> have a lot more strength in tension. To visualize
> this, imagine that the tail had been tapped
> oversize, so the threads of the bolt just barely
> grabbed.
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
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| Subject: | Re: Has Low cost ADS-B arrived? |
AirMike wrote:
> My intuition tells me that this unit resides in the same squishy area as IFR
navigation equipment for EAB aircraft, and my guess is that if you put one of
these in your EAB aircraft, that there will be no squealing from the powers that
be. After all we are not exactly (for the most part) flying high performance
turbine equipment. Modern GPS - even in my I-Pad updates way faster than the
FAA's antiquated mode C - transponder system. Kudos to these guys for getting
this on the shelf for us to meet the 2020 deadline. :D
You'll get no argument from me that the specs are way too stringent. But remember
the FAA doesn't care about us - they do care about an airliner hitting us.
So IMHO there will be no relaxation on the specs.(IF they did relax them, now,
the companies that already are in the market with TSO'd boxes would cry foul
- and they'd have a point). And btw, there's nothing "squishy" about IFR navigation
equipment. Your operating limitations require you to follow the same 91.205
rules as the normally certified aircraft. I applaud Navworks for trying to
bring the cost down, and in fact this is a very competitive price even without
a position source. But I won't believe "ready for 2020" until I see someone
say in writing that the built in gps meets 91.227.
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RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist |
woxofswa wrote:
> >>
> Unless your donuts have compressed EXACTLY the same amount as the thickness of
the doubler you are going to have to make minute adjustments to get the bolt
to slide in easily. In my case I had to ease the wheel back down to the floor
to get just a few pounds of pressure and viola, the bolt slid right in. I was
able to have one hand on the jack release and the other inserting the bolt.
You can't do that from the back.
My thinking is that the donuts will compress some with time, so I want a substantial
pre-load on them now, not just a few pounds.
I un-jacked the plane, then put my shoulder under the tail and picked it up (maybe
80 lbs there?) and slid a stand under the tail, then added one more (2 total)
washer and I could just get the bolt in.
Was this overkill? Or too much pre-load?
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RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: How to lift the nose wheel without an engine hoist |
That is a good question and I don't know the answer. I know that the goal is "no
slop" and that you are limited to a maximum of three washers. It seems possible
that the more pre-load, the more the donuts compress over time, but I'm
not sure. I would bet that compression memory is a combination of both time and
pressure with a little pressure over a long time having the same effect as
high pressure for short bursts. It also seems to me that the act of compression
itself is what absorbs energy and therefore a higher pre-compression could
mean less potential energy absorption capability in the system.
I have heard that they are expensive to replace.
Bob Turner wrote:
>
> woxofswa wrote:
> > >>
> > Unless your donuts have compressed EXACTLY the same amount as the thickness
of the doubler you are going to have to make minute adjustments to get the bolt
to slide in easily. In my case I had to ease the wheel back down to the floor
to get just a few pounds of pressure and viola, the bolt slid right in. I
was able to have one hand on the jack release and the other inserting the bolt.
You can't do that from the back.
>
> My thinking is that the donuts will compress some with time, so I want a substantial
pre-load on them now, not just a few pounds.
> I un-jacked the plane, then put my shoulder under the tail and picked it up (maybe
80 lbs there?) and slid a stand under the tail, then added one more (2 total)
washer and I could just get the bolt in.
> Was this overkill? Or too much pre-load?
--------
Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Flew May 10 2014
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| Subject: | Re: Blue Sky visors? |
I just installed a set this week. So far I am happy. They aren't Rosen's but
they aren't Rosen's price either.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Flew May 10 2014
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