---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/20/15: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:28 AM - Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 (Rob Kochman) 2. 10:07 AM - Re: Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 (David Clifford) 3. 10:17 AM - Re: Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 (Tim Olson) 4. 10:21 AM - Re: Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 (Pascal) 5. 11:24 AM - Re: Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 (Ed Kranz) 6. 11:55 AM - Re: Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 (Rene) 7. 02:13 PM - Re: Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 (Bob Condrey) 8. 02:22 PM - Re: Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 (Kelly McMullen) 9. 06:28 PM - Re: Travel Canopy Covers (kearney) 10. 07:54 PM - Re: Re: Travel Canopy Covers (Linn Walters) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:28:39 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 From: Rob Kochman Last time I bought a headset, I compared the Bose A20 ad Lightspeed Zulu 2, and the Zulu 2 had substantially worse Bose A20 noise reduction. I need a new headset again, so I bought the Zulu PFX and flew with it the other night. The PFX also has substantially worse noise reduction than the A20. My A20 isn't quite comfortable on long flights, which I why I keep trying alternatives. Has anyone else compared the A20 to the Lightspeed headsets head-to-head in the RV-10 and have a similar result? People generally seem to prefer one over the other slightly, but the difference is huge in my experience, which makes me think something else is going on (or I'm just weird). -Rob -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying since March 2011 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:07:46 AM PST US From: David Clifford Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 If you are looking for comfort and quiet, you can't beat a set of Quiet Technologies Halo's with properly inserted ear tips. I also use a pair of Zulu and Zulu 2 and like both very much. No experience with Bose though. David Clifford N959RV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Kochman" Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 12:24:44 PM Subject: RV10-List: Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 Last time I bought a headset, I compared the Bose A20 ad Lightspeed Zulu 2, and the Zulu 2 had substantially worse Bose A20 noise reduction. I need a new headset again, so I bought the Zulu PFX and flew with it the other night. The PFX also has substantially worse noise reduction than the A20. My A20 isn't quite comfortable on long flights, which I why I keep trying alternatives. Has anyone else compared the A20 to the Lightspeed headsets head-to-head in the RV-10 and have a similar result? People generally seem to prefer one over the other slightly, but the difference is huge in my experience, which makes me think something else is going on (or I'm just weird). -Rob -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying since March 2011 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:17:37 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 I did when I compared the A20 and the Bose X and the regular Zulu. Same conclusion. Tim > On Mar 20, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Rob Kochman wrote: > > Last time I bought a headset, I compared the Bose A20 ad Lightspeed Zulu 2 , and the Zulu 2 had substantially worse Bose A20 noise reduction. I need a new headset again, so I bought the Zulu PFX and flew with it the other nigh t. The PFX also has substantially worse noise reduction than the A20. My A 20 isn't quite comfortable on long flights, which I why I keep trying altern atives. > > Has anyone else compared the A20 to the Lightspeed headsets head-to-head i n the RV-10 and have a similar result? People generally seem to prefer one o ver the other slightly, but the difference is huge in my experience, which m akes me think something else is going on (or I'm just weird). > > -Rob > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 Flying since March 2011 > Woodinville, WA > http://kochman.net/N819K > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:07 AM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 I can tell you that I have a mid level headset and it is awful compared to the Bose and Lightspeed. I can also tell you that we love our LS Zulu 2 over the Bose. This is not at the level of the PFX to A20, I agree but the fit of the Bose makes it the last headset to be used on our =9310. So 4 out of 4 people in my plane prefer the fit of the Lightspeed over the Bose, but one tolerates it each time (if awesome headsets makes the situation =9Ctolerable=9D). Your questions was NR between the two, my response is that fit overrides any further NR that either gives us as we believe the Noise reduction of the Lightspeed is good enough to listen to movies without a need for higher volumes. We have not heard a significant difference between the two, so you may have a loose earpad or something else going on. That happened to us on the Lightspeed and a replacement earpad (wider for smaller head significantly fixed the noise issue) When riding motorcycles there are two excellent headsets (ARAI and SHOEI) one fits perfect; one just doesn=99t fit right at all, I think your situation may be the same, the Bose just fits your head better than the Lightspeed may, ad that is why you hear the significant difference. From: Rob Kochman Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 9:24 AM Subject: RV10-List: Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 Last time I bought a headset, I compared the Bose A20 ad Lightspeed Zulu 2, and the Zulu 2 had substantially worse Bose A20 noise reduction. I need a new headset again, so I bought the Zulu PFX and flew with it the other night. The PFX also has substantially worse noise reduction than the A20. My A20 isn't quite comfortable on long flights, which I why I keep trying alternatives. Has anyone else compared the A20 to the Lightspeed headsets head-to-head in the RV-10 and have a similar result? People generally seem to prefer one over the other slightly, but the difference is huge in my experience, which makes me think something else is going on (or I'm just weird). -Rob -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying since March 2011 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:24:22 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 From: Ed Kranz I know you're specifically asking about the Zulu vs the Bose, but I did a direct comparison between the QT Halos (passive noise canceling) and the Bose A20s. I had the bose over one ear, and the halos in the other. The halos were noticeably quieter. However, the are more effort to put on, and I wouldn't want to use them for guests in the plane. On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Rob Kochman wrote: > Last time I bought a headset, I compared the Bose A20 ad Lightspeed Zulu > 2, and the Zulu 2 had substantially worse Bose A20 noise reduction. I need > a new headset again, so I bought the Zulu PFX and flew with it the other > night. The PFX also has substantially worse noise reduction than the A20. > My A20 isn't quite comfortable on long flights, which I why I keep trying > alternatives. > > Has anyone else compared the A20 to the Lightspeed headsets head-to-head > in the RV-10 and have a similar result? People generally seem to prefer > one over the other slightly, but the difference is huge in my experience, > which makes me think something else is going on (or I'm just weird). > > -Rob > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 Flying since March 2011 > Woodinville, WA > http://kochman.net/N819K > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:55:56 AM PST US From: "Rene" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 I have used Halos, Dave Clark, Bose, and light speed. I fly everything except the Halo (I sold mine because they were harder to get on and off). I think the Bose is the best, with the light speed being just about the same. My wife prefers her Halo. She got custom ear molds. I think it is a personal preference thing..try them all and pick the ones that work best for you. Rene' 801-721-6080 From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Kranz Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 12:21 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 I know you're specifically asking about the Zulu vs the Bose, but I did a direct comparison between the QT Halos (passive noise canceling) and the Bose A20s. I had the bose over one ear, and the halos in the other. The halos were noticeably quieter. However, the are more effort to put on, and I wouldn't want to use them for guests in the plane. On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Rob Kochman wrote: Last time I bought a headset, I compared the Bose A20 ad Lightspeed Zulu 2, and the Zulu 2 had substantially worse Bose A20 noise reduction. I need a new headset again, so I bought the Zulu PFX and flew with it the other night. The PFX also has substantially worse noise reduction than the A20. My A20 isn't quite comfortable on long flights, which I why I keep trying alternatives. Has anyone else compared the A20 to the Lightspeed headsets head-to-head in the RV-10 and have a similar result? People generally seem to prefer one over the other slightly, but the difference is huge in my experience, which makes me think something else is going on (or I'm just weird). -Rob -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying since March 2011 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:13:52 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 From: Bob Condrey For me personally, either the Zulu or Bose worked well. For my wife however, the Bose was substantially better. Turns out that the Zulu didn't seal as well as the Bose along the rear part of her jaw and that caused the ANR not to work as well. That being said, the only way you're going to know is to try them in person. Sorry, just my experience. Bob On Friday, March 20, 2015, Rob Kochman wrote: > Last time I bought a headset, I compared the Bose A20 ad Lightspeed Zulu > 2, and the Zulu 2 had substantially worse Bose A20 noise reduction. I need > a new headset again, so I bought the Zulu PFX and flew with it the other > night. The PFX also has substantially worse noise reduction than the A20. > My A20 isn't quite comfortable on long flights, which I why I keep trying > alternatives. > > Has anyone else compared the A20 to the Lightspeed headsets head-to-head > in the RV-10 and have a similar result? People generally seem to prefer > one over the other slightly, but the difference is huge in my experience, > which makes me think something else is going on (or I'm just weird). > > -Rob > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 Flying since March 2011 > Woodinville, WA > http://kochman.net/N819K > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:22:01 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lightspeed Zulu 2 and PFX in the RV-10 Agreed. Back when the original Zulu and Bose X were the top of the line, we spent several hours at Sportys going back and forth between them. Better comfort and slightly lighter weight became deciding choice for the Bose. One of these days I will compare current models. While Bose support has been okay, Lightspeed has much better reputation. On 3/20/2015 2:10 PM, Bob Condrey wrote: > For me personally, either the Zulu or Bose worked well. For my wife > however, the Bose was substantially better. Turns out that the Zulu > didn't seal as well as the Bose along the rear part of her jaw and > that caused the ANR not to work as well. That being said, the only way > you're going to know is to try them in person. Sorry, just my experience. > > Bob > > On Friday, March 20, 2015, Rob Kochman > wrote: > > Last time I bought a headset, I compared the Bose A20 ad > Lightspeed Zulu 2, and the Zulu 2 had substantially worse Bose A20 > noise reduction. I need a new headset again, so I bought the Zulu > PFX and flew with it the other night. The PFX also has > substantially worse noise reduction than the A20. My A20 isn't > quite comfortable on long flights, which I why I keep trying > alternatives. > > Has anyone else compared the A20 to the Lightspeed headsets > head-to-head in the RV-10 and have a similar result? People > generally seem to prefer one over the other slightly, but the > difference is huge in my experience, which makes me think > something else is going on (or I'm just weird). > > -Rob > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 Flying since March 2011 > Woodinville, WA > http://kochman.net/N819K > > * > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:28:06 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Travel Canopy Covers From: "kearney" Hi So, I picked up a travel cover from Flightline. First off, I was pretty amazed at how light it was. I used to have a Bruce's cover for my PA28 and it was very substantial and heavy. Abbey's cover is marvelously light. It seems to be very well made. I like the velcro straps that go around the steps. Thank you to everyone who weighed in with advice. Cheers Les Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439694#439694 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:54:06 PM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Travel Canopy Covers Post a picture when you get one!!! Linn On 3/20/2015 9:24 PM, kearney wrote: > > Hi > > So, I picked up a travel cover from Flightline. First off, I was pretty amazed at how light it was. I used to have a Bruce's cover for my PA28 and it was very substantial and heavy. Abbey's cover is marvelously light. It seems to be very well made. I like the velcro straps that go around the steps. > > Thank you to everyone who weighed in with advice. > > Cheers > > Les > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439694#439694 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.