---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/31/15: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:26 AM - Re: Project For Sale RV-10 #14220 -- photos ?? (Phil) 2. 09:58 AM - Hartzell prop lubrication (Bob Leffler) 3. 10:07 AM - Re: Hartzell prop lubrication (John Cox) 4. 10:28 AM - Re: Hartzell prop lubrication (Pascal) 5. 10:31 AM - Re: Hartzell prop lubrication (David Leikam) 6. 10:45 AM - Re: Hartzell prop lubrication (Jesse Saint) 7. 11:28 AM - Re: Project For Sale RV-10 #14220 -- photos ?? () 8. 01:43 PM - Re: Re: Rear Heat SCAT Tube Routing (Larry Rosen) 9. 01:45 PM - Re: Hartzell prop lubrication (Kelly McMullen) 10. 01:48 PM - Re: Hartzell prop lubrication (Linn Walters) 11. 02:03 PM - Re: Hartzell prop lubrication (Kelly McMullen) 12. 02:09 PM - Re: Hartzell prop lubrication (Bob Leffler) 13. 02:31 PM - Re: Hartzell prop lubrication (Rob Kochman) 14. 03:24 PM - Re: Hartzell prop lubrication (Marcus Cooper) 15. 03:28 PM - Re: Hartzell prop lubrication (Pascal) 16. 03:33 PM - Re: Hartzell prop lubrication (David Clifford) 17. 04:05 PM - Re: Hartzell prop lubrication (David Leikam) 18. 08:25 PM - Re: Wing root fairings (dmaib@me.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:16 AM PST US From: Phil Subject: Re: RV10-List: Project For Sale RV-10 #14220 -- photos ?? I see my brief ad to sell my RV-10 shows up in today's posting and digest, BUT the 4 photos do not. They were attached to the original email, AND sent to the photo list with request that they be posted with the email ad. Did I misread your directions, or not follow them correctly? Any help would be appreciated. Phil White ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:58:21 AM PST US From: Bob Leffler Subject: RV10-List: Hartzell prop lubrication I've just started my conditional and was reading the maintenance procedures for the Hartzell prop. It cautions you not to over lubricate. My naive question, is how can you tell when you have the proper amount of lubricant? Is it when it starts oozing out the other fitting? Thanks, Bob Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:07:37 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell prop lubrication From: John Cox Max number of pumps and excess coming out the opposing threads of adjacent removed zerk. Per Hartzell S.L. On Mar 31, 2015 10:01 AM, "Bob Leffler" wrote: > > I've just started my conditional and was reading the maintenance > procedures for the Hartzell prop. It cautions you not to over lubricate. > > My naive question, is how can you tell when you have the proper amount of > lubricant? Is it when it starts oozing out the other fitting? > > Thanks, > > Bob > > Sent from my iPhone > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:28:13 AM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell prop lubrication Yes, put I usually pump out some old the dirty grease while I'm at it. I think over lubricate would apply if you did not remove the bottom zerk and pumped up the prop. I cant see over lubricating a prop that has room to ooze out. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Leffler Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:54 AM Subject: RV10-List: Hartzell prop lubrication I've just started my conditional and was reading the maintenance procedures for the Hartzell prop. It cautions you not to over lubricate. My naive question, is how can you tell when you have the proper amount of lubricant? Is it when it starts oozing out the other fitting? Thanks, Bob Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:31:38 AM PST US From: David Leikam Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell prop lubrication Max number of pumps (I believe 6) OR excess coming out opposite zerk which ever happens first. Dave Leikam > On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:04 PM, John Cox wrote: > > Max number of pumps and excess coming out the opposing threads of adjacent removed zerk. Per Hartzell S.L. > > On Mar 31, 2015 10:01 AM, "Bob Leffler" > wrote: > > > I've just started my conditional and was reading the maintenance procedures for the Hartzell prop. It cautions you not to over lubricate. > > My naive question, is how can you tell when you have the proper amount of lubricant? Is it when it starts oozing out the other fitting? > > Thanks, > > Bob > > Sent from my iPhone > > ========== > -List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > FORUMS - > _blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:38 AM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell prop lubrication Bob, I always remove the fitting on the leading edge and pump from the trailing edge until i see movement of grease at the open hole. I then put the plug back in and do the other blade. Some say just 2 pumps per fitting, but I don't know if that is without removing the fittings or with them out. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org www.mavericklsa.com C: 352-427-0285 O: 352-465-4545 F: 815-377-3694 Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Bob Leffler wrote: > > > I've just started my conditional and was reading the maintenance procedures for the Hartzell prop. It cautions you not to over lubricate. > > My naive question, is how can you tell when you have the proper amount of lubricant? Is it when it starts oozing out the other fitting? > > Thanks, > > Bob > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:28:31 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV10-List: Project For Sale RV-10 #14220 -- photos ?? Hey Phil, Your pictures came through on my email for the RV10 list ... not quite big enough files to blow up for detail, but enough to see what you've got. It's always sad to hear that a builder is selling for unfortunate circumstances. I wish you well on your journey, - Lew ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:43:20 PM PST US From: Larry Rosen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Rear Heat SCAT Tube Routing Attached is a photo of my SCAT tube solution. I made a fiberglass tube to go around the Andair fuel valve stem. The tube is held in place by 2 pipe clamps that are riveted to the tunnel. Larry ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:45:26 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell prop lubrication Award for most accurate response. Believe it or not you can over lubricate even with a zerk removed. If any of the old grease has thickened/hardened, it will restrict grease coming out the zerk hole. I generally limit to 4 strokes on hand grease gun or start of grease coming out removed zerk hole. Also, use precisely whatever grease the label on the prop calls for, whether that is Aeroshell 6, 22 or some other flavor. Unlike oils, greases do use different thickening agents, and they are not all compatible. Do not worry about not having enough grease...there is plenty in the hub, unless you see it slinging out the seals at the blade roots. Kelly A&P/IA On 3/31/2015 10:28 AM, David Leikam wrote: > Max number of pumps (I believe 6) OR excess coming out opposite zerk > which ever happens first. > > Dave Leikam > >> On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:04 PM, John Cox > > wrote: >> >> Max number of pumps and excess coming out the opposing threads of >> adjacent removed zerk. Per Hartzell S.L. >> >> On Mar 31, 2015 10:01 AM, "Bob Leffler" > > wrote: >> >> > >> >> I've just started my conditional and was reading the maintenance >> procedures for the Hartzell prop. It cautions you not to over >> lubricate. >> >> My naive question, is how can you tell when you have the proper >> amount of lubricant? Is it when it starts oozing out the other >> fitting? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bob >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ========== >> -List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> _blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> * >> >> >> * > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:48:02 PM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell prop lubrication I fail to understand why you would stop at 6? pumps when there's no excess ..... and pumps aren't created equal. Anybody know why you'd quit pumping before the cavity is full??? Linn ..... working on a Sam James plenum On 3/31/2015 1:28 PM, David Leikam wrote: > Max number of pumps (I believe 6) OR excess coming out opposite zerk > which ever happens first. > > Dave Leikam > >> On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:04 PM, John Cox > > wrote: >> >> Max number of pumps and excess coming out the opposing threads of >> adjacent removed zerk. Per Hartzell S.L. >> >> On Mar 31, 2015 10:01 AM, "Bob Leffler" > > wrote: >> >> > >> >> I've just started my conditional and was reading the maintenance >> procedures for the Hartzell prop. It cautions you not to over >> lubricate. >> >> My naive question, is how can you tell when you have the proper >> amount of lubricant? Is it when it starts oozing out the other >> fitting? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bob >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ========== >> -List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> _blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> * >> >> >> * > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:03:31 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell prop lubrication You don't know that you haven't delivered an excess. You do NOT need the cavity full. The prop really only needs 1-2 pumps of grease per blade. The extra pumps are for those that may have substandard grease gun, to give you a safe range without excess. Excess will cause grease to get past the blade seals and may cause them to fail. Based on both Hartzell rep and pubs, and prop overhaul shop. On 3/31/2015 1:43 PM, Linn Walters wrote: > I fail to understand why you would stop at 6? pumps when there's no > excess ..... and pumps aren't created equal. Anybody know why you'd > quit pumping before the cavity is full??? > Linn ..... working on a Sam James plenum > > On 3/31/2015 1:28 PM, David Leikam wrote: >> Max number of pumps (I believe 6) OR excess coming out opposite zerk >> which ever happens first. >> >> Dave Leikam >> >>> On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:04 PM, John Cox >> > wrote: >>> >>> Max number of pumps and excess coming out the opposing threads of >>> adjacent removed zerk. Per Hartzell S.L. >>> >>> On Mar 31, 2015 10:01 AM, "Bob Leffler" >> > wrote: >>> >>> > >>> >>> I've just started my conditional and was reading the maintenance >>> procedures for the Hartzell prop. It cautions you not to over >>> lubricate. >>> >>> My naive question, is how can you tell when you have the proper >>> amount of lubricant? Is it when it starts oozing out the >>> other fitting? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> ========== >>> -List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> ========== >>> FORUMS - >>> _blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> ========== >>> >>> >>> >>> * >>> >>> >>> * >> >> * >> >> >> * > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:09:29 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell prop lubrication From: Bob Leffler I think that's the question I was getting at. Until it oozes out the othe r side, you really have no idea the true quantity of grease in the hub. It does make sense that you can't over fill with the other fitting off, but t hen the warning seems a little silly. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 31, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Linn Walters wrote: > > I fail to understand why you would stop at 6? pumps when there's no excess ..... and pumps aren't created equal. Anybody know why you'd quit pumping b efore the cavity is full??? > Linn ..... working on a Sam James plenum > >> On 3/31/2015 1:28 PM, David Leikam wrote: >> Max number of pumps (I believe 6) OR excess coming out opposite zerk whic h ever happens first. >> >> Dave Leikam >> >>> On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:04 PM, John Cox wrote: >>> >>> Max number of pumps and excess coming out the opposing threads of adjace nt removed zerk. Per Hartzell S.L. >>> >>>> On Mar 31, 2015 10:01 AM, "Bob Leffler" wrote: >>>> >>>> I've just started my conditional and was reading the maintenance proced ures for the Hartzell prop. It cautions you not to over lubricate. >>>> >>>> My naive question, is how can you tell when you have the proper amount o f lubricant? Is it when it starts oozing out the other fitting? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> ========== >>>> -List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>>> ========== >>>> FORUMS - >>>> _blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>>> ========== >>>> b Site - >>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>> ========== > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:31:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell prop lubrication From: Rob Kochman When are people seeing grease coming out the other side? I've done 3 annuals now, doing 6 pumps per blade each time, and I haven't seen any come out the other side yet. On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Bob Leffler wrote: > I think that's the question I was getting at. Until it oozes out the > other side, you really have no idea the true quantity of grease in the hub. > > > It does make sense that you can't over fill with the other fitting off, > but then the warning seems a little silly. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 31, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Linn Walters wrote: > > I fail to understand why you would stop at 6? pumps when there's no excess > ..... and pumps aren't created equal. Anybody know why you'd quit pumping > before the cavity is full??? > Linn ..... working on a Sam James plenum > > On 3/31/2015 1:28 PM, David Leikam wrote: > > Max number of pumps (I believe 6) OR excess coming out opposite zerk which > ever happens first. > > Dave Leikam > > On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:04 PM, John Cox wrote: > > Max number of pumps and excess coming out the opposing threads of > adjacent removed zerk. Per Hartzell S.L. > On Mar 31, 2015 10:01 AM, "Bob Leffler" wrote: > >> >> I've just started my conditional and was reading the maintenance >> procedures for the Hartzell prop. It cautions you not to over lubricate. >> >> My naive question, is how can you tell when you have the proper amount of >> lubricant? Is it when it starts oozing out the other fitting? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bob >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ========== >> -List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> _blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> > > > * > > > * > > -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying since March 2011 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:24:19 PM PST US From: Marcus Cooper Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell prop lubrication One important tip is to make sure you clean out the exit hole per Hartzell=99s instructions, piece of safety wire works well. I didn=99t do this at first but after pumping some grease in I cleaned it out better and once the dried bit got out of the way some came out under pressure. As long as you limit the number of pumps it=99s probably not a huge deal, but if you are looking to see some exit then it=99s critical otherwise you=99ll pump too much in and it will find a way out in places you don=99t want it to. Marcus On Mar 31, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Rob Kochman wrote: When are people seeing grease coming out the other side? I've done 3 annuals now, doing 6 pumps per blade each time, and I haven't seen any come out the other side yet. On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Bob Leffler > wrote: I think that's the question I was getting at. Until it oozes out the other side, you really have no idea the true quantity of grease in the hub. It does make sense that you can't over fill with the other fitting off, but then the warning seems a little silly. Sent from my iPad On Mar 31, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Linn Walters > wrote: > I fail to understand why you would stop at 6? pumps when there's no excess ..... and pumps aren't created equal. Anybody know why you'd quit pumping before the cavity is full??? > Linn ..... working on a Sam James plenum > > On 3/31/2015 1:28 PM, David Leikam wrote: >> Max number of pumps (I believe 6) OR excess coming out opposite zerk which ever happens first. >> >> Dave Leikam >> >>> On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:04 PM, John Cox > wrote: >>> >>> Max number of pumps and excess coming out the opposing threads of adjacent removed zerk. Per Hartzell S.L. >>> >>> On Mar 31, 2015 10:01 AM, "Bob Leffler" > wrote: > >>> >>> I've just started my conditional and was reading the maintenance procedures for the Hartzell prop. It cautions you not to over lubricate. >>> >>> My naive question, is how can you tell when you have the proper amount of lubricant? Is it when it starts oozing out the other fitting? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> ========== >>> -List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> ========== >>> FORUMS - >>> _blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> ========== >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D lass=""> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying since March 2011 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:28:18 PM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell prop lubrication I with Linn- unless I can see grease, I would have no idea how much grease is actually in the hub. I get it, after this thread, that 6 pumps may be enough grease for the what Hartzell requires, but I prefer to know there is grease coming out and that I am not short on grease (aka- I thought I pumped it 6 times but the amount of grease that came out was minimal for those pumps) to answer your question Rob- every annual. What I find interesting is that although I fill the hub, every year I seem to need 6 or more pumps to get the grease to show, which tells me I use more grease each year than I re-pump, hence my going until I see grease come out and sometimes, as mentioned before, when its really dirty, until I see cleaner grease. 3 years with no leaks, so I am happy knowing I have grease in the hub and that it cleaner each year, than just 6 pumps. From: Rob Kochman Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 2:28 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell prop lubrication When are people seeing grease coming out the other side? I've done 3 annuals now, doing 6 pumps per blade each time, and I haven't seen any come out the other side yet. On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Bob Leffler wrote: I think that's the question I was getting at. Until it oozes out the other side, you really have no idea the true quantity of grease in the hub. It does make sense that you can't over fill with the other fitting off, but then the warning seems a little silly. Sent from my iPad On Mar 31, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Linn Walters wrote: I fail to understand why you would stop at 6? pumps when there's no excess ..... and pumps aren't created equal. Anybody know why you'd quit pumping before the cavity is full??? Linn ..... working on a Sam James plenum On 3/31/2015 1:28 PM, David Leikam wrote: Max number of pumps (I believe 6) OR excess coming out opposite zerk which ever happens first. Dave Leikam On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:04 PM, John Cox wrote: Max number of pumps and excess coming out the opposing threads of adjacent removed zerk. Per Hartzell S.L. On Mar 31, 2015 10:01 AM, "Bob Leffler" wrote: I've just started my conditional and was reading the maintenance procedures for the Hartzell prop. It cautions you not to over lubricate. My naive question, is how can you tell when you have the proper amount of lubricant? Is it when it starts oozing out the other fitting? Thanks, Bob Sent from my iPhone ========== -List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ========== FORUMS - _blank">http://forums.matronics.com ========== b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D lass=""> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying since March 2011 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:33:41 PM PST US From: David Clifford Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell prop lubrication The manual for greasing the hub does not make a whole lot of sense IMHO. If the hub is not leaking grease, as it should not do, it will eventually fill with grease and after a few times servicing the hub will fill up and ooze out the the removed zerk fitting hole. I pumped until I could observe movement of grease inside the open zerk hole. Maybe I am wrong but I THINK the hub will eventually fill up eventually? David Clifford N959RV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Kochman" Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 5:28:09 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell prop lubrication When are people seeing grease coming out the other side? I've done 3 annuals now, doing 6 pumps per blade each time, and I haven't seen any come out the other side yet. On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Bob Leffler < rv@thelefflers.com > wrote: I think that's the question I was getting at. Until it oozes out the other side, you really have no idea the true quantity of grease in the hub. It does make sense that you can't over fill with the other fitting off, but then the warning seems a little silly. Sent from my iPad On Mar 31, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Linn Walters < flying-nut@cfl.rr.com > wrote:
I fail to understand why you would stop at 6? pumps when there's no excess ..... and pumps aren't created equal. Anybody know why you'd quit pumping before the cavity is full??? Linn ..... working on a Sam James plenum On 3/31/2015 1:28 PM, David Leikam wrote:
Max number of pumps (I believe 6) OR excess coming out opposite zerk which ever happens first. Dave Leikam
On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:04 PM, John Cox < rv10pro@gmail.com > wrote: Max number of pumps and excess coming out the opposing threads of adjacent removed zerk. Per Hartzell S.L. On Mar 31, 2015 10:01 AM, "Bob Leffler" < rv@thelefflers.com > wrote:
I've just started my conditional and was reading the maintenance procedures for the Hartzell prop. It cautions you not to over lubricate. My naive question, is how can you tell when you have the proper amount of lubricant? Is it when it starts oozing out the other fitting? Thanks, Bob Sent from my iPhone =========== -List" target="_blank"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List =========== FORUMS - _blank"> http://forums.matronics.com =========== b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. target="_blank"> http://www.matronics.com/contribution ===========
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-- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying since March 2011 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:05:18 PM PST US From: David Leikam Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell prop lubrication I just finished my annual and the prop hub took exactly 4 pumps Aeroshell 6 each zerk until grease started to poke out the opposite zerk. Just doing what the manual says. No problems in 375 hours. Dave Leikam > On Mar 31, 2015, at 5:30 PM, David Clifford wrote: > > The manual for greasing the hub does not make a whole lot of sense IMHO. If the hub is not leaking grease, as it should not do, it will eventually fill with grease and after a few times servicing the hub will fill up and ooze out the the removed zerk fitting hole. I pumped until I could observe movement of grease inside the open zerk hole. Maybe I am wrong but I THINK the hub will eventually fill up eventually? > > David Clifford > N959RV > > From: "Rob Kochman" > To: "rv10-list" > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 5:28:09 PM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell prop lubrication > > When are people seeing grease coming out the other side? I've done 3 annuals now, doing 6 pumps per blade each time, and I haven't seen any come out the other side yet. > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Bob Leffler > wrote: > I think that's the question I was getting at. Until it oozes out the other side, you really have no idea the true quantity of grease in the hub. > > It does make sense that you can't over fill with the other fitting off, but then the warning seems a little silly. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 31, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Linn Walters > wrote: > > I fail to understand why you would stop at 6? pumps when there's no excess ..... and pumps aren't created equal. Anybody know why you'd quit pumping before the cavity is full??? > Linn ..... working on a Sam James plenum > > On 3/31/2015 1:28 PM, David Leikam wrote: > Max number of pumps (I believe 6) OR excess coming out opposite zerk which ever happens first. > > Dave Leikam > > On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:04 PM, John Cox > wrote: > > Max number of pumps and excess coming out the opposing threads of adjacent removed zerk. Per Hartzell S.L. > > On Mar 31, 2015 10:01 AM, "Bob Leffler" > wrote: > > > I've just started my conditional and was reading the maintenance procedures for the Hartzell prop. It cautions you not to over lubricate. > > My naive question, is how can you tell when you have the proper amount of lubricant? Is it when it starts oozing out the other fitting? > > Thanks, > > Bob > > Sent from my iPhone > > ========== > -List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > FORUMS - > _blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > lass=""> > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > > > > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 Flying since March 2011 > Woodinville, WA > http://kochman.net/N819K > > > get="_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www. matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ta-mce-href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > _blank" data-mce-href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matroni cs.com/contribution > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:25:15 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Wing root fairings From: "dmaib@me.com" I finally got a photo of my wing root edge guard product. As I mentioned earlier, no trimming of the wing root material was required. It is still looking fine at nearly seven years. No comments about the dirty airplane! 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