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1. 02:23 PM - Insurance mystery (woxofswa)
2. 03:07 PM - Re: Insurance mystery (Tim Olson)
3. 03:37 PM - Re: Insurance mystery (woxofswa)
4. 04:02 PM - Re: Insurance mystery (Carl Froehlich)
5. 04:16 PM - Re: Insurance mystery (Rob Kermanj)
6. 04:21 PM - Re: Insurance mystery (Dj Merrill)
7. 04:24 PM - Gust Locks (kearney)
8. 04:31 PM - Re: Insurance mystery (John Cox)
9. 04:32 PM - Re: Insurance mystery (Bob Leffler)
10. 04:32 PM - Re: Insurance mystery (Tim Olson)
11. 04:37 PM - Re: Gust Locks (Rene)
12. 05:02 PM - Re: Gust Locks (Alan Mekler MD)
13. 05:09 PM - Re: Gust Locks (Bob Leffler)
14. 05:12 PM - Re: Insurance mystery (Rob Kermanj)
15. 05:12 PM - Re: Gust Locks (kearney)
16. 05:27 PM - Re: Insurance mystery (Bob Turner)
17. 05:35 PM - Re: Gust Locks (Bob Turner)
18. 05:36 PM - Re: Re: Gust Locks (Alan Mekler MD)
19. 05:42 PM - Re: Re: Gust Locks (Alan Mekler MD)
20. 05:50 PM - Re: Insurance mystery (Tim Olson)
21. 05:53 PM - Re: Re: Insurance mystery (Tim Olson)
22. 06:01 PM - Re: Re: Gust Locks (Pascal)
23. 06:44 PM - Re: Insurance mystery (Jenny Estes)
24. 10:28 PM - Re: Insurance mystery (Bob Turner)
25. 10:46 PM - Lord adhesive window installation question (Dan Charrois)
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| Subject: | Insurance mystery |
I don't get it. There is an insurance company that baffles my mind. They specialize
in direct sales (which you would think would be efficient), and advertise
heavily to the experimental community in direct mail, magazine ads, a huge
presence at OSH, etc.
I get mailers all the time from this company and twice I have allowed them to offer
me a quote, and both times that have been nearly twice as much as what I
eventually ended up with.
This last time I asked the embarrassed rep of this company why their quotes are
so out of line and the answer I received was that the company truly isn't interested
in making competitive quotes to experimental aircraft. So why, I asked,
do they spend so much in marketing to a market segment they don't want? "I
don't know" was the answer. "We deal with this every day."
I told them they could reduce their mailing costs by removing me from their list
and that they should probably reconsider their expensive ads claiming to love
experimental business. Obviously they must underwrite enough paper to stay
in business, but it sure seems like a strange way to operate to me.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Flew May 10 2014
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance mystery |
Sounds like Avemco to me. Worthless.
When I get their envelopes in the mail, I open them, stuff the contents in the
prepaid return mailer and write on them with a marker saying "too expensive".
Then it at least costs them more to try to peddle their BS at twice the price.
Tim
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> On Apr 7, 2015, at 4:19 PM, woxofswa <woxof@aol.com> wrote:
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> I don't get it. There is an insurance company that baffles my mind. They specialize
in direct sales (which you would think would be efficient), and advertise
heavily to the experimental community in direct mail, magazine ads, a huge
presence at OSH, etc.
> I get mailers all the time from this company and twice I have allowed them to
offer me a quote, and both times that have been nearly twice as much as what
I eventually ended up with.
> This last time I asked the embarrassed rep of this company why their quotes are
so out of line and the answer I received was that the company truly isn't interested
in making competitive quotes to experimental aircraft. So why, I asked,
do they spend so much in marketing to a market segment they don't want?
"I don't know" was the answer. "We deal with this every day."
> I told them they could reduce their mailing costs by removing me from their list
and that they should probably reconsider their expensive ads claiming to love
experimental business. Obviously they must underwrite enough paper to stay
in business, but it sure seems like a strange way to operate to me.
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> Myron Nelson
> Mesa, AZ
> Flew May 10 2014
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance mystery |
I can't confirm that you are right ... But I would correct you if you were wrong.
:D
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Flew May 10 2014
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| Subject: | Insurance mystery |
I just renewed my policy with Nation Air and got a nice surprise - $700+
lower premium than last year with the same coverage.
Carl
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Insurance mystery
Sounds like Avemco to me. Worthless.
When I get their envelopes in the mail, I open them, stuff the contents in
the prepaid return mailer and write on them with a marker saying "too
expensive".
Then it at least costs them more to try to peddle their BS at twice the
price.
Tim
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> On Apr 7, 2015, at 4:19 PM, woxofswa <woxof@aol.com> wrote:
>
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> I don't get it. There is an insurance company that baffles my mind. They
specialize in direct sales (which you would think would be efficient), and
advertise heavily to the experimental community in direct mail, magazine
ads, a huge presence at OSH, etc.
> I get mailers all the time from this company and twice I have allowed them
to offer me a quote, and both times that have been nearly twice as much as
what I eventually ended up with.
> This last time I asked the embarrassed rep of this company why their
quotes are so out of line and the answer I received was that the company
truly isn't interested in making competitive quotes to experimental
aircraft. So why, I asked, do they spend so much in marketing to a market
segment they don't want? "I don't know" was the answer. "We deal with this
every day."
> I told them they could reduce their mailing costs by removing me from
their list and that they should probably reconsider their expensive ads
claiming to love experimental business. Obviously they must underwrite
enough paper to stay in business, but it sure seems like a strange way to
operate to me.
>
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> Myron Nelson
> Mesa, AZ
> Flew May 10 2014
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance mystery |
Just got mine renewed at $577 less than last year from Falcon. What a pleasent
surprise! It is somewhat affordable now.
Do not archive.
Rob Kermanj
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> On Apr 7, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
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> Sounds like Avemco to me. Worthless.
> When I get their envelopes in the mail, I open them, stuff the contents in the
prepaid return mailer and write on them with a marker saying "too expensive".
> Then it at least costs them more to try to peddle their BS at twice the price.
> Tim
> Do not archive
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>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 4:19 PM, woxofswa <woxof@aol.com> wrote:
>>
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>> I don't get it. There is an insurance company that baffles my mind. They specialize
in direct sales (which you would think would be efficient), and advertise
heavily to the experimental community in direct mail, magazine ads, a huge
presence at OSH, etc.
>> I get mailers all the time from this company and twice I have allowed them to
offer me a quote, and both times that have been nearly twice as much as what
I eventually ended up with.
>> This last time I asked the embarrassed rep of this company why their quotes
are so out of line and the answer I received was that the company truly isn't
interested in making competitive quotes to experimental aircraft. So why, I asked,
do they spend so much in marketing to a market segment they don't want?
"I don't know" was the answer. "We deal with this every day."
>> I told them they could reduce their mailing costs by removing me from their
list and that they should probably reconsider their expensive ads claiming to
love experimental business. Obviously they must underwrite enough paper to stay
in business, but it sure seems like a strange way to operate to me.
>>
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>> Myron Nelson
>> Mesa, AZ
>> Flew May 10 2014
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440391#440391
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance mystery |
Myron, I had the exact same experience, two quotes over two years, both
more than twice the amount of the others, and finally telling them to
stop mailing me.
I have to admit I like Tim's "mail back" program better! :-)
-Dj
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Dj Merrill - N1JOV - EAA Chapter 87
Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/
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Hi
I am interested in a gust lock and am wondering if there are any current opinions
regarding same.
I am thinking that something that pins the surfaces is not what I want - I think
I would prefer something that has a little give (ie uses elastics / bungee cords).
I do have an email into Wild Blue Innovations but haven't heard back from them.
I do have a couple of limitations -I have Control Approach rudder pedals and my
control sticks have covers.
Cheers
Les
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440398#440398
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance mystery |
Great recommendation!
On Apr 7, 2015 3:09 PM, "Tim Olson" <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
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> Sounds like Avemco to me. Worthless.
> When I get their envelopes in the mail, I open them, stuff the contents in
> the prepaid return mailer and write on them with a marker saying "too
> expensive".
> Then it at least costs them more to try to peddle their BS at twice the
> price.
> Tim
> Do not archive
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> > On Apr 7, 2015, at 4:19 PM, woxofswa <woxof@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I don't get it. There is an insurance company that baffles my mind.
> They specialize in direct sales (which you would think would be efficient),
> and advertise heavily to the experimental community in direct mail,
> magazine ads, a huge presence at OSH, etc.
> > I get mailers all the time from this company and twice I have allowed
> them to offer me a quote, and both times that have been nearly twice as
> much as what I eventually ended up with.
> > This last time I asked the embarrassed rep of this company why their
> quotes are so out of line and the answer I received was that the company
> truly isn't interested in making competitive quotes to experimental
> aircraft. So why, I asked, do they spend so much in marketing to a market
> segment they don't want? "I don't know" was the answer. "We deal with
> this every day."
> > I told them they could reduce their mailing costs by removing me from
> their list and that they should probably reconsider their expensive ads
> claiming to love experimental business. Obviously they must underwrite
> enough paper to stay in business, but it sure seems like a strange way to
> operate to me.
> >
> > --------
> > Myron Nelson
> > Mesa, AZ
> > Flew May 10 2014
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> > Read this topic online here:
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> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440391#440391
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance mystery |
As you are aware, Falcon and Nationair are just agents. Who are the underwriters?
I'd be interested in understanding what underwriters are giving the best
deal.
Bob
Sent from my iPad
> On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:10 PM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Just got mine renewed at $577 less than last year from Falcon. What a pleasent
surprise! It is somewhat affordable now.
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> Do not archive.
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> Rob Kermanj
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Sounds like Avemco to me. Worthless.
>> When I get their envelopes in the mail, I open them, stuff the contents in the
prepaid return mailer and write on them with a marker saying "too expensive".
>> Then it at least costs them more to try to peddle their BS at twice the price.
>> Tim
>> Do not archive
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>>
>>
>>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 4:19 PM, woxofswa <woxof@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't get it. There is an insurance company that baffles my mind. They
specialize in direct sales (which you would think would be efficient), and advertise
heavily to the experimental community in direct mail, magazine ads, a huge
presence at OSH, etc.
>>> I get mailers all the time from this company and twice I have allowed them
to offer me a quote, and both times that have been nearly twice as much as what
I eventually ended up with.
>>> This last time I asked the embarrassed rep of this company why their quotes
are so out of line and the answer I received was that the company truly isn't
interested in making competitive quotes to experimental aircraft. So why, I
asked, do they spend so much in marketing to a market segment they don't want?
"I don't know" was the answer. "We deal with this every day."
>>> I told them they could reduce their mailing costs by removing me from their
list and that they should probably reconsider their expensive ads claiming to
love experimental business. Obviously they must underwrite enough paper to stay
in business, but it sure seems like a strange way to operate to me.
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Myron Nelson
>>> Mesa, AZ
>>> Flew May 10 2014
>>>
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>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440391#440391
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance mystery |
I'm with Nationair too and mine also dropped this year....good stuff.
Tim
> On Apr 7, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
> I just renewed my policy with Nation Air and got a nice surprise - $700+
> lower premium than last year with the same coverage.
>
> Carl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 6:02 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Insurance mystery
>
>
> Sounds like Avemco to me. Worthless.
> When I get their envelopes in the mail, I open them, stuff the contents in
> the prepaid return mailer and write on them with a marker saying "too
> expensive".
> Then it at least costs them more to try to peddle their BS at twice the
> price.
> Tim
> Do not archive
>
>
>
>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 4:19 PM, woxofswa <woxof@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don't get it. There is an insurance company that baffles my mind. They
> specialize in direct sales (which you would think would be efficient), and
> advertise heavily to the experimental community in direct mail, magazine
> ads, a huge presence at OSH, etc.
>> I get mailers all the time from this company and twice I have allowed them
> to offer me a quote, and both times that have been nearly twice as much as
> what I eventually ended up with.
>> This last time I asked the embarrassed rep of this company why their
> quotes are so out of line and the answer I received was that the company
> truly isn't interested in making competitive quotes to experimental
> aircraft. So why, I asked, do they spend so much in marketing to a market
> segment they don't want? "I don't know" was the answer. "We deal with this
> every day."
>> I told them they could reduce their mailing costs by removing me from
> their list and that they should probably reconsider their expensive ads
> claiming to love experimental business. Obviously they must underwrite
> enough paper to stay in business, but it sure seems like a strange way to
> operate to me.
>>
>> --------
>> Myron Nelson
>> Mesa, AZ
>> Flew May 10 2014
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440391#440391
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I have tried a couple, but I am back to H-Man. PVC pipe with rubber chair
legs on one end and PVC cut on the other end to match the pedals. Use seat
belt for stick. Hard to take off with them in......always placed on pilot
side.
I know it now exactly an H....looks something like this. All parts came
from the aviation department of Home Depot.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kearney
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 5:19 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Gust Locks
Hi
I am interested in a gust lock and am wondering if there are any current
opinions regarding same.
I am thinking that something that pins the surfaces is not what I want - I
think I would prefer something that has a little give (ie uses elastics /
bungee cords).
I do have an email into Wild Blue Innovations but haven't heard back from
them.
I do have a couple of limitations -I have Control Approach rudder pedals and
my control sticks have covers.
Cheers
Les
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440398#440398
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i have been happy with the GUST BUSTER
Alan
N6668G
> On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:19 PM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
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> Hi
>
> I am interested in a gust lock and am wondering if there are any current opinions
regarding same.
>
> I am thinking that something that pins the surfaces is not what I want - I think
I would prefer something that has a little give (ie uses elastics / bungee
cords).
>
> I do have an email into Wild Blue Innovations but haven't heard back from them.
>
> I do have a couple of limitations -I have Control Approach rudder pedals and
my control sticks have covers.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
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>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440398#440398
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I have the same pedals. I made something out of pvc. I took t joints and cut
them so they slip over the the top of the bottom pedal. I did something similar
to fit the top of the seat box. I use Velcro that is fastened to the
pvc to hold the stick in place. It works pretty good.
Sent from my iPad
> On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:19 PM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
> Hi
>
> I am interested in a gust lock and am wondering if there are any current opinions
regarding same.
>
> I am thinking that something that pins the surfaces is not what I want - I think
I would prefer something that has a little give (ie uses elastics / bungee
cords).
>
> I do have an email into Wild Blue Innovations but haven't heard back from them.
>
> I do have a couple of limitations -I have Control Approach rudder pedals and
my control sticks have covers.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440398#440398
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance mystery |
I think mine is Global. I sent the renewal so I cannot check now. I can tell you
when I get the confirmation. Let me know if you want it.
Do not archive.
Rob Kermanj
Sent from my iPad
> On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:27 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>
>
> As you are aware, Falcon and Nationair are just agents. Who are the underwriters?
I'd be interested in understanding what underwriters are giving the
best deal.
>
> Bob
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:10 PM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Just got mine renewed at $577 less than last year from Falcon. What a pleasent
surprise! It is somewhat affordable now.
>>
>> Do not archive.
>>
>> Rob Kermanj
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like Avemco to me. Worthless.
>>> When I get their envelopes in the mail, I open them, stuff the contents in
the prepaid return mailer and write on them with a marker saying "too expensive".
>>> Then it at least costs them more to try to peddle their BS at twice the price.
>>> Tim
>>> Do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 4:19 PM, woxofswa <woxof@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't get it. There is an insurance company that baffles my mind. They
specialize in direct sales (which you would think would be efficient), and advertise
heavily to the experimental community in direct mail, magazine ads, a
huge presence at OSH, etc.
>>>> I get mailers all the time from this company and twice I have allowed them
to offer me a quote, and both times that have been nearly twice as much as what
I eventually ended up with.
>>>> This last time I asked the embarrassed rep of this company why their quotes
are so out of line and the answer I received was that the company truly isn't
interested in making competitive quotes to experimental aircraft. So why, I
asked, do they spend so much in marketing to a market segment they don't want?
"I don't know" was the answer. "We deal with this every day."
>>>> I told them they could reduce their mailing costs by removing me from their
list and that they should probably reconsider their expensive ads claiming to
love experimental business. Obviously they must underwrite enough paper to
stay in business, but it sure seems like a strange way to operate to me.
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>> Myron Nelson
>>>> Mesa, AZ
>>>> Flew May 10 2014
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440391#440391
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Alan
Will the gust buster accommodate a cover on the control stick?
Cheers
Les
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance mystery |
What a coincidence! Although I didn't bother last year, just last month I asked
AVEMCO for a quote. Just to see if anything had changed. The answer is no change.
Coverage limits are still "per person", not "per passenger" like everyone
else. And, almost twice as expensive as my current policy (up for renewal soon).
BUT, when I asked for a quote 2 years ago, they did send me a nice baseball
cap with their name on it. My hangar-neighbor remarked that that was the most
expensive cap he had ever seen.
For Bob: I'm with USAIG thru Nationair. We had them many years ago when a partner
had a prop strike, and we had nothing but the best experience with their claims
guy. I also like their plain language policy. It even tells me what they'll
pay for my labor, if I choose to repair a covered claim myself!
BTW: Two years ago I asked Jenny (Nationair) why they didn't quote company X, which
some others were reporting as offering very attractive rates. She told me
that they wouldn't quote a company if they had doubts about their actual ability
to stick around and pay for losses. A year later company X was no longer in
the business. That's the kind of advice you pay a good broker for.
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RV-10 QB
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I have the Bogart (sp?) tow bar, with the slight mod of two tabs attached to the
ends to go over the rudder bars, under the brakes. Not sure if that works with
your pedals. Handle goes against the seat back, held down by seat belt. stick
goes thru the triangular hole. Not sure if your cover will fit, but the hole
is pretty big. Use the other seat belt to hold the stick firmly in the 'V'.
Hunt around the forum, I'm sure there are pictures somewhere. Works great, cost
nothing, adds no extra weight, since I carry the tow bar anyway.
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RV-10 QB
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do you have a picture of your cover?
alan
> On Apr 7, 2015, at 8:08 PM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> Alan
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> Will the gust buster accommodate a cover on the control stick?
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> Cheers
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les,
the gust buster attaches about half way down the control.
alan
> On Apr 7, 2015, at 8:08 PM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> Alan
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> Will the gust buster accommodate a cover on the control stick?
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> Cheers
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> Les
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance mystery |
Mine is Global too.
Lowest price ever this year.
Tim
> On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> I think mine is Global. I sent the renewal so I cannot check now. I can tell
you when I get the confirmation. Let me know if you want it.
>
> Do not archive.
>
> Rob Kermanj
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:27 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> As you are aware, Falcon and Nationair are just agents. Who are the underwriters?
I'd be interested in understanding what underwriters are giving the
best deal.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:10 PM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Just got mine renewed at $577 less than last year from Falcon. What a pleasent
surprise! It is somewhat affordable now.
>>>
>>> Do not archive.
>>>
>>> Rob Kermanj
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like Avemco to me. Worthless.
>>>> When I get their envelopes in the mail, I open them, stuff the contents in
the prepaid return mailer and write on them with a marker saying "too expensive".
>>>> Then it at least costs them more to try to peddle their BS at twice the price.
>>>> Tim
>>>> Do not archive
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 4:19 PM, woxofswa <woxof@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't get it. There is an insurance company that baffles my mind. They
specialize in direct sales (which you would think would be efficient), and advertise
heavily to the experimental community in direct mail, magazine ads, a
huge presence at OSH, etc.
>>>>> I get mailers all the time from this company and twice I have allowed them
to offer me a quote, and both times that have been nearly twice as much as what
I eventually ended up with.
>>>>> This last time I asked the embarrassed rep of this company why their quotes
are so out of line and the answer I received was that the company truly isn't
interested in making competitive quotes to experimental aircraft. So why,
I asked, do they spend so much in marketing to a market segment they don't want?
"I don't know" was the answer. "We deal with this every day."
>>>>> I told them they could reduce their mailing costs by removing me from their
list and that they should probably reconsider their expensive ads claiming
to love experimental business. Obviously they must underwrite enough paper to
stay in business, but it sure seems like a strange way to operate to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------
>>>>> Myron Nelson
>>>>> Mesa, AZ
>>>>> Flew May 10 2014
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440391#440391
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance mystery |
Isn't Avemco promoted by EAA? Or are they just a big advertiser? I would think
that EAA wouldn't want to be associated with a company that does such a poor
job with homebuilders.
Tim
> On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
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> What a coincidence! Although I didn't bother last year, just last month I asked
AVEMCO for a quote. Just to see if anything had changed. The answer is no change.
Coverage limits are still "per person", not "per passenger" like everyone
else. And, almost twice as expensive as my current policy (up for renewal soon).
BUT, when I asked for a quote 2 years ago, they did send me a nice baseball
cap with their name on it. My hangar-neighbor remarked that that was the most
expensive cap he had ever seen.
>
> For Bob: I'm with USAIG thru Nationair. We had them many years ago when a partner
had a prop strike, and we had nothing but the best experience with their
claims guy. I also like their plain language policy. It even tells me what they'll
pay for my labor, if I choose to repair a covered claim myself!
>
> BTW: Two years ago I asked Jenny (Nationair) why they didn't quote company X,
which some others were reporting as offering very attractive rates. She told
me that they wouldn't quote a company if they had doubts about their actual ability
to stick around and pay for losses. A year later company X was no longer
in the business. That's the kind of advice you pay a good broker for.
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440409#440409
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Les;
I miss some e-mails for some reason so I am only seeing your response and
not who Alan is, however I have a antisplat gust lock that does require me
to unzip the control stick cover and also requires the wires be routed on
the inside of the stick, as the retainer is bolted to control stick.
If you dont mind unzipping the cover and your wires are on the inside, I
highly recommend it. http://antisplataero.com/RV-10_Ultimate_Gust_Lock.html
another option, a home brew is-
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=120730&highlight=gust+lock
-----Original Message-----
From: kearney
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 5:08 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Gust Locks
Alan
Will the gust buster accommodate a cover on the control stick?
Cheers
Les
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance mystery |
Yes it is most likely Global. There rates have been very competitive this year.
Jenny Estes NationAir
jestes@nationair.com
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
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> Mine is Global too.
> Lowest price ever this year.
> Tim
>
>
>
>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I think mine is Global. I sent the renewal so I cannot check now. I can tell
you when I get the confirmation. Let me know if you want it.
>>
>> Do not archive.
>>
>> Rob Kermanj
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:27 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> As you are aware, Falcon and Nationair are just agents. Who are the underwriters?
I'd be interested in understanding what underwriters are giving the
best deal.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:10 PM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just got mine renewed at $577 less than last year from Falcon. What a pleasent
surprise! It is somewhat affordable now.
>>>>
>>>> Do not archive.
>>>>
>>>> Rob Kermanj
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like Avemco to me. Worthless.
>>>>> When I get their envelopes in the mail, I open them, stuff the contents in
the prepaid return mailer and write on them with a marker saying "too expensive".
>>>>> Then it at least costs them more to try to peddle their BS at twice the price.
>>>>> Tim
>>>>> Do not archive
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 4:19 PM, woxofswa <woxof@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't get it. There is an insurance company that baffles my mind. They
specialize in direct sales (which you would think would be efficient), and
advertise heavily to the experimental community in direct mail, magazine ads,
a huge presence at OSH, etc.
>>>>>> I get mailers all the time from this company and twice I have allowed them
to offer me a quote, and both times that have been nearly twice as much as
what I eventually ended up with.
>>>>>> This last time I asked the embarrassed rep of this company why their quotes
are so out of line and the answer I received was that the company truly isn't
interested in making competitive quotes to experimental aircraft. So why,
I asked, do they spend so much in marketing to a market segment they don't want?
"I don't know" was the answer. "We deal with this every day."
>>>>>> I told them they could reduce their mailing costs by removing me from their
list and that they should probably reconsider their expensive ads claiming
to love experimental business. Obviously they must underwrite enough paper to
stay in business, but it sure seems like a strange way to operate to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------
>>>>>> Myron Nelson
>>>>>> Mesa, AZ
>>>>>> Flew May 10 2014
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440391#440391
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance mystery |
Tim Olson wrote:
> Isn't Avemco promoted by EAA? Or are they just a big advertiser? I would think
that EAA wouldn't want to be associated with a company that does such a poor
job with homebuilders.
> Tim
>
EAA and AVEMCO used to have some sort of official relationship, but had a friendly
divorce some years ago.
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RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Lord adhesive window installation question |
Hi everyone. I'm ready to attach the windows in my RV-10 and am looking for advice
on those who have used the Lord 7545 A/E adhesive sold by Geoff at Aerosport
Products. After reading lots of positive comments from here about it, I obtained
a few tubes from him.
The plans call for installing the windows onto the doors when the doors are off
and laying flat, presumably to allow gravity to help hold them in place while
they are being cured. Of course, the rear windows can't be installed with that
luxury, but they're smaller and lighter. And the windscreen rests largely
on the nose while curing, so that should be less of an issue too.
But my question is, considering that Lord Adhesive is different than Vans' would
have us use anyway, is it sticky enough that I could install the windows on
the doors while the doors are closed and on the plane - in essentially the same
orientation as the rear windows? The reason I ask isn't due to laziness :-)
But instead, I'm one of the lucky ones whose doors ended up fitting quite well
without a lot of work. And I figure that if the windows are attached to the
doors while the doors are in their proper latched position, they can only help
(slightly) to further stiffen the door in the proper position. The last thing
I want to do is to fit the windows to the doors when the doors are on the
floor, and then find that gravity warped things slightly while they were curing,
and the doors no longer fit properly. It would seem to me that adhering the
windows to the doors when the doors are in their closed position will help keep
everything aligned properly, so long as the Lord adhesive is sticky enough
before fully cured that it will hold the window tightly to the door and in place
while it is curing.
Thanks!
Dan
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President, Syzygy Research & Technology
Phone: 780-961-2213
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