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Fri 05/15/15


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     1. 07:23 AM - Re: Re: Odyssey optimal charge voltage (Carl Froehlich)
     2. 08:12 AM - Re: Re: Odyssey optimal charge voltage (David Clifford)
     3. 01:13 PM - Re: Odyssey optimal charge voltage (bill.peyton)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:23:22 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Odyssey optimal charge voltage
    I can tell you a stock Plane Power alternator works just fine with Odyssey batteries. At full charge the buss voltage is 14.2 vdc. I=99ve used this set up for over a decade (two Odyssey PC-625 battery system) without any issues. As these batteries maintain 90% of their charge over six months I find no need to ever put a charger on the batteries unless I=99m doing extended panel powered up stuff. Even then I put a charger on with a volt meter and monitor to remove the charger once terminal voltage gets to 14.2 or so. Leaving a standard battery charger on a Odyssey battery is a good way to trash it as battery terminal voltage will rapidly rise above 15vdc once you get pass 14.2vdc. At that point you are generating heat and hydrogen. If you really must put a charger on it then get the Odyssey charger =93 then consider not using it unless you have good reason. I change out one battery every two years as a routine maintenance item (so neither battery is more than four years old). The pulled batteries provide another four years or so of service in various tractors here at the airpark. The only battery issue I had was when I left one of the master switches on. While you might be able to beat a flat battery back to life assume the damage will significantly degrade battery amp/hr capacity and replace it. Carl From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:20 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Odyssey optimal charge voltage It is that charge phase that had me thinking that the alternator regulator might need to be set above 14.2. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:27 PM, dmaib@me.com <dmaib@me.com> wrote: I have an Odyssey brand charger for my 925. According to the documentation, it initially charges at 14.3-14.7 volts (give or take) until the battery is charged. Then it goes to the trickle charge mode at 13.6-13.8 volts (give or take). It can be left in the trickle charge mode indefinitely, according to the manual. -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 New Smyrna Beach, FL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442122#442122 -List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List FORUMS - _blank">http://forums.matronics.com b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 08:12:01 AM PST US
    From: David Clifford <davidsoutpost@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Odyssey optimal charge voltage
    I concur with Carl here about placing the Odyssey batteries on a charger. I have a PC625 I placed in my wave runner about 15 years ago and its still g oing strong. I don't even bother charging it up at the beginning of the sea son. Its always ready to go. I also have them in lawn equipment. Same thing with no issues. My buddy uses PC625's in his Cozy MKIV. He used to keep th e Odyssey charger plugged in when the plane was parked. Batteries were toas ted in 2 years. I have dual 680's in my -10 and only place a charger on it when doing avionics work in the hanger. As soon as the green "charged" ligh t comes on, it gets disconnected. David Clifford N646RV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 9:17:11 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Odyssey optimal charge voltage I can tell you a stock Plane Power alternator works just fine with Odyssey batteries. At full charge the buss voltage is 14.2 vdc. I=99ve used this set up for over a decade (two Odyssey PC-625 battery system) without any issues. As these batteries maintain 90% of their charg e over six months I find no need to ever put a charger on the batteries unl ess I=99m doing extended panel powered up stuff. Even then I put a ch arger on with a volt meter and monitor to remove the charger once terminal voltage gets to 14.2 or so. Leaving a standard battery charger on a Odyssey battery is a good way to trash it as battery terminal voltage will rapidly rise above 15vdc once you get pass 14.2vdc. At that point you are generati ng heat and hydrogen. If you really must put a charger on it then get the O dyssey charger =93 then consider not using it unless you have good re ason. I change out one battery every two years as a routine maintenance item (so neither battery is more than four years old). The pulled batteries provide another four years or so of service in various tractors here at the airpark . The only battery issue I had was when I left one of the master switches o n. While you might be able to beat a flat battery back to life assume the d amage will significantly degrade battery amp/hr capacity and replace it. Carl From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:20 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Odyssey optimal charge voltage It is that charge phase that had me thinking that the alternator regulator might need to be set above 14.2. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:27 PM, dmaib@me.com < dmaib@me.com > wrote: I have an Odyssey brand charger for my 925. According to the documentation, it initially charges at 14.3-14.7 volts (give or take) until the battery i s charged. Then it goes to the trickle charge mode at 13.6-13.8 volts (give or take). It can be left in the trickle charge mode indefinitely, accordin g to the manual. -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 New Smyrna Beach, FL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442122#442122 =========== -List" target="_blank"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List =========== FORUMS - _blank"> http://forums.matronics.com =========== b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. target="_blank"> http://www.matronics.com/contribution =========== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ===


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    Time: 01:13:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Odyssey optimal charge voltage
    From: "bill.peyton" <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net>
    When I spoke with technical support at odyssey, they recommended charging both the 680 and 925 batteries at a nominal voltage of 14.4-14.5 volts. Unfortunately, if you have the plane power alternator, with th internal VR the only way to increase the charging voltage is to add resistance in the field line going to the alternator. The PP alternator uses the field line to sense the charge voltage. What I did was to use a #20 gauge wire to feed the field voltage. More than sufficient to carry the 5 amp load, but small enough diameter to create a slight voltage drop. I charge at 14.5 volts. Almost 3 years and 380 hours, and still going strong. Will 14.2 volts work? Probably -------- Bill WA0SYV Aviation Partners, LLC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442146#442146




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