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1. 11:27 AM - control cables (David)
2. 11:48 AM - Gauging interest in a fly-in in UPer land (Jesse Saint)
3. 12:04 PM - Re: Gauging interest in a fly-in in UPer land (William Greenley)
4. 12:14 PM - Re: control cables (Carl Froehlich)
5. 02:30 PM - Re: Re: Missing step? 18-5 Fuel Tanks (Jim Beyer)
6. 03:58 PM - Re: Wheel balancer (kearney)
7. 05:30 PM - Re: control cables (Kelly McMullen)
8. 06:23 PM - Tech in the front office - Part Deux (kearney)
9. 07:30 PM - Re: Re: Wheel balancer (Tim Olson)
10. 07:54 PM - Re: Wheel balancer (kearney)
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After discussions with Vans and other Cablecraft assemblers, I have found
the following. The standard cables as supplied by the kit manufacturer are
rated for 200-300F and the contents of the cables then soften and melt with
summer temperatures after shutdown. These are industrial grade cables. They
are about $70-$80 and last several years, and then the controls begin to
move with difficulty and must at some point be replaced. Cablecraft also
makes aircraft grade cables that are rated to about 350F and cost 2-3 times
the industrial. I am going to order them which are supposed to be airworthy
for life of the airframe. This seems preferable to changing cables at 500
hour intervals. In the meantime I am ordering a throttle cable from
California Push Pull to install until the stainless cables are ready. YMMV
but when the T, P,M controls start to become difficult to move or jerky it
is time. I have already replaced the original cables several years ago.
David McNeill
2008 N46007 900+ TT
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| Subject: | Gauging interest in a fly-in in UPer land |
I am gauging interest in having a fly-in in Watersmeet, in the UP of Michiga
n. We are staying up here with some friends and I can't help thinking that t
his would be a perfect place for a fly-in. I keep thinking about Triple Tree
and think this would be a great place to have a similar type of event for t
hose in the north, probably in mid to late September.
The place we are staying is the Northwoods Conference Center, 72MI. It has a
mile-long paved runway and a lodge right next to the runway that can sleep a
s many as 230 people. Camping would also be an option. They have a full comm
ercial kitchen, so 3 meals a day would be available. There is a big private l
ake behind the lodge for fishing, canoeing, kayaking and swimming. There is a
3.7 mile road around the lake for on-road biking or hiking, and there are m
iles and miles of bike and hiking trails. The setting is amazingly beautiful
.
The lodge also has a gym with a volleyball net, a big auditorium, a big lobb
y with couches and chairs, a 2-lane bowling alley (out of order right now, b
ut hopefully fixed by Sept) and a game room.
The cost per room is $50/night and each normal room has 2 twin beds and a pr
ivate bathroom, so it would cost $25/night/person for the room. There are su
ites available for families, but I don't know the costs right now. Meals are
all buffet meals (whoever organizes it can pick the menu), and are $7/perso
n for breakfast and lunch and $9/person for dinner. So, for $50/day/person y
ou could enjoy a relaxing time with a bunch of other airplane people. I am s
ure whoever organizes the event may opt to have some kind of registration fe
e to cover organization costs, but the above mentioned fees cover all of the
costs of the conference center. Those choosing to camp next to their planes
would just pay for meals and registration costs, if any.
The conference center is waned and operated by a Christian ministry, so they
don't allow any alcoholic beverages on the grounds.
I may or may not be a part of it, but just thought I would gauge interest th
at others may have for what I think would be a perfect setting for a long we
ekend fly-in.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
352-427-0285
jesse@saintaviation.com
Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Gauging interest in a fly-in in UPer land |
Sounds good to me, could we allow builders to fly in their non RV aircraft.
I could bring pictures of he build and tape them to the Cessna. :)
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote:
> I am gauging interest in having a fly-in in Watersmeet, in the UP of
> Michigan. We are staying up here with some friends and I can't help
> thinking that this would be a perfect place for a fly-in. I keep thinking
> about Triple Tree and think this would be a great place to have a similar
> type of event for those in the north, probably in mid to late September.
>
> The place we are staying is the Northwoods Conference Center, 72MI. It has
> a mile-long paved runway and a lodge right next to the runway that can
> sleep as many as 230 people. Camping would also be an option. They have a
> full commercial kitchen, so 3 meals a day would be available. There is a
> big private lake behind the lodge for fishing, canoeing, kayaking and
> swimming. There is a 3.7 mile road around the lake for on-road biking or
> hiking, and there are miles and miles of bike and hiking trails. The
> setting is amazingly beautiful.
>
> The lodge also has a gym with a volleyball net, a big auditorium, a big
> lobby with couches and chairs, a 2-lane bowling alley (out of order right
> now, but hopefully fixed by Sept) and a game room.
>
> The cost per room is $50/night and each normal room has 2 twin beds and a
> private bathroom, so it would cost $25/night/person for the room. There are
> suites available for families, but I don't know the costs right now. Meals
> are all buffet meals (whoever organizes it can pick the menu), and are
> $7/person for breakfast and lunch and $9/person for dinner. So, for
> $50/day/person you could enjoy a relaxing time with a bunch of other
> airplane people. I am sure whoever organizes the event may opt to have some
> kind of registration fee to cover organization costs, but the above
> mentioned fees cover all of the costs of the conference center. Those
> choosing to camp next to their planes would just pay for meals and
> registration costs, if any.
>
> The conference center is waned and operated by a Christian ministry, so
> they don't allow any alcoholic beverages on the grounds.
>
> I may or may not be a part of it, but just thought I would gauge interest
> that others may have for what I think would be a perfect setting for a long
> weekend fly-in.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> 352-427-0285
> jesse@saintaviation.com
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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Two additional points of interest:
- If using push/pull controls the throttle cable Van's recommends
is too short (47.5"). Get the one Van's sells for the RV-7 IO-360 (50.5").
- Agree on the heat issue with any of the cable options. Where the
cable runs near the engine I put it through a small diameter piece of fire
sleeve, like Aeroquip AE102-8.
Carl
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 2:21 PM
Subject: RV10-List: control cables
After discussions with Vans and other Cablecraft assemblers, I have found
the following. The standard cables as supplied by the kit manufacturer are
rated for 200-300F and the contents of the cables then soften and melt with
summer temperatures after shutdown. These are industrial grade cables. They
are about $70-$80 and last several years, and then the controls begin to
move with difficulty and must at some point be replaced. Cablecraft also
makes aircraft grade cables that are rated to about 350F and cost 2-3 times
the industrial. I am going to order them which are supposed to be airworthy
for life of the airframe. This seems preferable to changing cables at 500
hour intervals. In the meantime I am ordering a throttle cable from
California Push Pull to install until the stainless cables are ready. YMMV
but when the T, P,M controls start to become difficult to move or jerky it
is time. I have already replaced the original cables several years ago.
David McNeill
2008 N46007 900+ TT
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| Subject: | Re: Missing step? 18-5 Fuel Tanks |
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| Subject: | Re: Wheel balancer |
Hi Tim
Which model of wheel balancer did you get. I am interested in getting one but am
unsure as to which model is appropriate for the standard Van's wheels.
Cheers
Les
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| Subject: | Re: control cables |
Did you look at McFarlane for cables? They offer RV-10 specific cables in
aircraft grade. They have PMA for some Cessna and Piper, and now are OEM
supplier for Mooney. I don't recall exact pricing, probably between $250
and $300 per cable. Teflon lined, first rate construction.
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:21 AM, David <dlm34077@cox.net> wrote:
> After discussions with Vans and other Cablecraft assemblers, I have
> found the following. The standard cables as supplied by the kit
> manufacturer are rated for 200-300F and the contents of the cables then
> soften and melt with summer temperatures after shutdown. These are
> industrial grade cables. They are about $70-$80 and last several years, and
> then the controls begin to move with difficulty and must at some point be
> replaced. Cablecraft also makes aircraft grade cables that are rated to
> about 350F and cost 2-3 times the industrial. I am going to order them
> which are supposed to be airworthy for life of the airframe. This seems
> preferable to changing cables at 500 hour intervals. In the meantime I am
> ordering a throttle cable from California Push Pull to install until the
> stainless cables are ready. YMMV but when the T, P,M controls start to
> become difficult to move or jerky it is time. I have already replaced the
> original cables several years ago.
>
>
> David McNeill
>
> 2008 N46007 900+ TT
>
>
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| Subject: | Tech in the front office - Part Deux |
Hi
So over the past 8 days I have out 3500 nm on my -10 and have been very pleased
with performance. It is a great X-try machine and uber comfortable.
The only fly in the ointment has been that my EFIS screens don't support Canadian
XM Weather. While ADSB weather is a possibility in the US, ADSB is not available
in Canada. When I was flying back to Canada from the US, I found that the
lack of wx info meant I had to overnight in KGFK as I didn't want to thread
my way through the wx.
So as to reduce ongoing subscription costs I am thought I would repurpose my XM
weather receiver to work with an IPAD and the Fltplan GO app. While I don't
believe that the approach plates are georef'd, I can live with that as my EFIS
screens show the approach tracks.
Has anyone used XM wx with the Fltplan GO app. I would be very interested in first
hand opinions.
Cheers
Les
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| Subject: | Re: Wheel balancer |
Here's my writeup from 2008 when I bought it.
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20080503/index.html
Tim
On 6/4/2015 5:54 PM, kearney wrote:
>
> Hi Tim
>
> Which model of wheel balancer did you get. I am interested in getting one but
am unsure as to which model is appropriate for the standard Van's wheels.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wheel balancer |
Hi Tim
As always, many thanks for the veritable fount of information on your site.
Cheers
Les
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