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1. 12:17 AM - Re: Re: Comm antenna on top (Phillip Perry)
2. 06:11 AM - Re: Comm antenna on top (bill.peyton)
3. 06:28 AM - Re: Re: Comm antenna on top (John Trollinger)
4. 08:41 AM - Re: Re: Comm antenna on top (Carl Froehlich)
5. 08:52 AM - Re: Re: Comm antenna on top (Rene)
6. 09:06 AM - Re: Re: Comm antenna on top (Bob Condrey)
7. 11:21 AM - Re: Re: baggage area and CG (Ed Kranz)
8. 06:19 PM - Re: Tech in the front office - Part quattro (Berck E. Nash)
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| Subject: | Re: Comm antenna on top |
As Kelly said, they can be offset to miss the stringer and still installed parallel
with the airflow for minimal drag.
I built mine that way using a doubler on the inside of the skin and picking up
the rivets on the stringer to strengthen the doubler.
I had to put a joggle in the doubler to do it, but there are other ways to pickup
those rivets too. Just have to get a bit creative.
Phil
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| Subject: | Re: Comm antenna on top |
At my airport the tower is far enough away that a bottom mounted antenna just would
not cut it. I have a top mount and bottom mount.
Here is a photo of the doubler I constructed spanning the two stringers. What
is missing in this photo is the tapered wedge that goes between the skin and the
doubler. The antenna mounting bolts go through the skin, the tapered wedge,
and the doubler.
The skin is not flat at this point and if you attach a doubler directly to the
skin it will flatten the curved area of the skin.
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Bill
WA0SYV
Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Comm antenna on top |
I have both my antennas on the belly of my 10 and have never had a problem
reaching anyone on the ground. They do stick out a little on each side as
I have them back behind the steps.
John
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:08 AM, bill.peyton <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> At my airport the tower is far enough away that a bottom mounted antenna
> just would not cut it. I have a top mount and bottom mount.
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> Here is a photo of the doubler I constructed spanning the two stringers.
> What is missing in this photo is the tapered wedge that goes between the
> skin and the doubler. The antenna mounting bolts go through the skin, the
> tapered wedge, and the doubler.
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> The skin is not flat at this point and if you attach a doubler directly to
> the skin it will flatten the curved area of the skin.
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> WA0SYV
> Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Comm antenna on top |
Not to argue the point as one can build as they wish. For the others
reading this thread and perhaps now worry about bottom mounted antenna
performance, my experience is the same as John=99s. I=99ve
never had an issue with the bottom mounted bent whip communication
antennas. A specific data point was picking up my IFR clearance on the
ground at KSET from St. Louis Approach located well off field.
Carl
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Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Comm antenna on top
I have both my antennas on the belly of my 10 and have never had a
problem reaching anyone on the ground. They do stick out a little on
each side as I have them back behind the steps.
John
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:08 AM, bill.peyton <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
At my airport the tower is far enough away that a bottom mounted antenna
just would not cut it. I have a top mount and bottom mount.
Here is a photo of the doubler I constructed spanning the two stringers.
What is missing in this photo is the tapered wedge that goes between
the skin and the doubler. The antenna mounting bolts go through the
skin, the tapered wedge, and the doubler.
The skin is not flat at this point and if you attach a doubler directly
to the skin it will flatten the curved area of the skin.
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Bill
WA0SYV
Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Comm antenna on top |
I had problems at KSLC on 118.3. I ended up moving one of my comm
antennas to the top.
Rene'
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Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Comm antenna on top
Not to argue the point as one can build as they wish. For the others
reading this thread and perhaps now worry about bottom mounted antenna
performance, my experience is the same as John=99s. I=99ve
never had an issue with the bottom mounted bent whip communication
antennas. A specific data point was picking up my IFR clearance on the
ground at KSET from St. Louis Approach located well off field.
Carl
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Trollinger
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Comm antenna on top
I have both my antennas on the belly of my 10 and have never had a
problem reaching anyone on the ground. They do stick out a little on
each side as I have them back behind the steps.
John
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:08 AM, bill.peyton <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
At my airport the tower is far enough away that a bottom mounted antenna
just would not cut it. I have a top mount and bottom mount.
Here is a photo of the doubler I constructed spanning the two stringers.
What is missing in this photo is the tapered wedge that goes between
the skin and the doubler. The antenna mounting bolts go through the
skin, the tapered wedge, and the doubler.
The skin is not flat at this point and if you attach a doubler directly
to the skin it will flatten the curved area of the skin.
--------
Bill
WA0SYV
Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Comm antenna on top |
This is a recurring theme that pops its head up every few months. Most
have no issues at all with a pair of bent whips on the bottom, however most
is not all. It is usually also pointed in somewhere in the recurring
thread that in those rare instances where there's an issue you can just use
a cell phone. That said, I have personally experienced the issue and one
of the things I'm doing different on this plane (2nd RV-10) is putting one
on top and one on bottom. To each their own.
Bob
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich@verizon.ne
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> Not to argue the point as one can build as they wish. For the others
> reading this thread and perhaps now worry about bottom mounted antenna
> performance, my experience is the same as John=99s. I=99ve n
ever had an issue
> with the bottom mounted bent whip communication antennas. A specific dat
a
> point was picking up my IFR clearance on the ground at KSET from St. Loui
s
> Approach located well off field.
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> Carl
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> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John Trollinger
> *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2015 9:25 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Re: Comm antenna on top
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> I have both my antennas on the belly of my 10 and have never had a proble
m
> reaching anyone on the ground. They do stick out a little on each side a
s
> I have them back behind the steps.
>
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> John
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> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:08 AM, bill.peyton <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
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> At my airport the tower is far enough away that a bottom mounted antenna
> just would not cut it. I have a top mount and bottom mount.
>
> Here is a photo of the doubler I constructed spanning the two stringers.
> What is missing in this photo is the tapered wedge that goes between the
> skin and the doubler. The antenna mounting bolts go through the skin, the
> tapered wedge, and the doubler.
>
> The skin is not flat at this point and if you attach a doubler directly t
o
> the skin it will flatten the curved area of the skin.
>
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> Bill
> WA0SYV
> Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: baggage area and CG |
I agree with Lenny. I was planning on putting a battery on the FW, and
after Lenny collected the temp data for me, I ended up mounting an EarthX
battery in the stock location.
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Lenny Iszak <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
wrote:
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> Temperatures on the firewall are not very friendly to the battery. I
> measured them using thermocouple probes and don't remember the exact
> numbers but it was in the 170-180s just before takeoff. Much less in
> flight. After shutdown it gets really toasty in there for a few minutes. I
> would check on that battery occasionally to make sure it still holds its
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| Subject: | Re: Tech in the front office - Part quattro |
An additional note on the android side of things: With the exception of
the brief month where FlightPro was under legal dispute, I've been very
happy with my Nexus 9, Flight Pro, and an XGPS-170 ADS-B receiver. The
combination is probably half the price an iPad + ForeFlight + Stratus.
I've used the foreflight/stratus combination and was perfectly happy
with it, but I don't want to buy hardware/software that's exclusive to
each other. I'd rate android/flightpro/xgps170 as about 90% as good as
the foreflight solution. Foreflight is better at some things, but there
are perfectly good android alternatives. I think Avare is usable, but
nowhere near as polished as the other $$ Android apps. I'm glad it
exists for free, and I keep it around as a backup.
For what it's worth, I'm using it in a Cessna 182 with 1966 avionics
while I build the RV-10, so I can't comment on how well it integrates
with a modern EFIS.
On 06/14/2015 06:36 AM, Linn Walters wrote:
> For those of us with android devices there is Avare ..... and the cost
> is reasonable. How does 'free' sound? It does everything my
> AnyWhereMap does with the exception of GLS approaches. It's my backup
> since I have lifetime IFR/VFR subscriptions with AWM.
> It's written by volunteers and will always be free ..... no 30 day trial
> periods!!!
> Linn
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