---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/02/15: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:18 AM - KOSH Parking (kearney) 2. 08:43 AM - Re: KOSH Parking (rsipp@earthlink.net) 3. 08:54 AM - Re: KOSH Parking (David Leikam) 4. 08:54 AM - Re: KOSH Parking (Albert) 5. 09:01 AM - Re: KOSH Parking (Bob Condrey) 6. 10:45 AM - Re: KOSH Parking (Les Kearney) 7. 11:01 AM - Re: KOSH Parking (Bob Leffler) 8. 11:53 AM - Re: KOSH Parking (Les Kearney) 9. 12:20 PM - Re: KOSH Parking (Bob Leffler) 10. 12:45 PM - KOSH Parking - Another Question (kearney) 11. 01:29 PM - Re: More on the red cube... (Lenny Iszak) 12. 02:28 PM - Re: KOSH Parking - Another Question (Bob Leffler) 13. 03:03 PM - Re: KOSH Parking - Another Question (kearney) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:22 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: KOSH Parking From: "kearney" Hi I have a couple of questions for those who have parked at KOSH with -10s. There doesn't seem to be a lost of ground clearance on my wheel pants and am wondering is there is a risk of damage taxing on the uneven grass. When I flew my PA28 in, there wasn't a problem as the bottom of the pants were higher from the ground. As well, I am wondering if there is a problem, for similar reasons, with wheels sinking into the ground, especially after rain. I seem to recall a stuck -10 that had a problem getting out for this reason. Is it worthwhile bringing something for the wheels to sit on and if so are there any recommendations? Inquiring minds need to know.... Cheers Les Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444298#444298 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:43:03 AM PST US From: "rsipp@earthlink.net" Subject: Re: RV10-List: KOSH Parking Use caution transitioning from grass to pavement some lips are high Dick Sipp Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2015, at 11:15 AM, kearney wrote: > > > Hi > > I have a couple of questions for those who have parked at KOSH with -10s. There doesn't seem to be a lost of ground clearance on my wheel pants and am wondering is there is a risk of damage taxing on the uneven grass. > > When I flew my PA28 in, there wasn't a problem as the bottom of the pants were higher from the ground. > > As well, I am wondering if there is a problem, for similar reasons, with wheels sinking into the ground, especially after rain. I seem to recall a stuck -10 that had a problem getting out for this reason. Is it worthwhile bringing something for the wheels to sit on and if so are there any recommendations? > > Inquiring minds need to know.... > > Cheers > > Les > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444298#444298 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:11 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: KOSH Parking From: David Leikam Les, Grass has not been a problem for me regarding clearance but, one year I landed RWY 9 and they made me exit left onto the grass. Had to taxi a LONG way around the field on grass over small inclines up and over each paved taxi-way intersection to get to show plane parking with the other 10s. Burned up a brake seal and formed a leak due to unavoidably riding the brakes to steer on the grass which was less than smooth. Also scratched the bottom of a wheel pant on the edge of a taxi way while climbing over the edge of it. (Replaced seals with viton.) I live 20 minutes by air from KOSH so if they are landing runway 9 I now drive. Dave Leikam > On Jul 2, 2015, at 10:15 AM, kearney wrote: > > > Hi > > I have a couple of questions for those who have parked at KOSH with -10s. There doesn't seem to be a lost of ground clearance on my wheel pants and am wondering is there is a risk of damage taxing on the uneven grass. > > When I flew my PA28 in, there wasn't a problem as the bottom of the pants were higher from the ground. > > As well, I am wondering if there is a problem, for similar reasons, with wheels sinking into the ground, especially after rain. I seem to recall a stuck -10 that had a problem getting out for this reason. Is it worthwhile bringing something for the wheels to sit on and if so are there any recommendations? > > Inquiring minds need to know.... > > Cheers > > Les > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444298#444298 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:13 AM PST US From: "Albert" Subject: RE: RV10-List: KOSH Parking I've had my '10 there several times with no problems with ground clearance. As far as rain and soft ground that could be a problem if you try to move the plane very soon after a heavy rain. One year with my 5th wheel parked in camp Scholler on the highest hump I could see hoping to avoid being in a lake, after the rain I was an island in the middle of a lake and couldn't go anywhere anyway till things dried up a bit. Even though drainage seems good over at HBC you want to avoid any low, damp areas when you taxi. One year a vendor was displaying some tank-type tracks that could be attached to pickups and ATV's. Maybe he now has some for aircraft. Albert Gardner RV-10 N991RV Yuma, AZ -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kearney Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 8:15 AM Subject: RV10-List: KOSH Parking Hi I have a couple of questions for those who have parked at KOSH with -10s. There doesn't seem to be a lost of ground clearance on my wheel pants and am wondering is there is a risk of damage taxing on the uneven grass. When I flew my PA28 in, there wasn't a problem as the bottom of the pants were higher from the ground. As well, I am wondering if there is a problem, for similar reasons, with wheels sinking into the ground, especially after rain. I seem to recall a stuck -10 that had a problem getting out for this reason. Is it worthwhile bringing something for the wheels to sit on and if so are there any recommendations? Inquiring minds need to know.... Cheers Les Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444298#444298 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:28 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: KOSH Parking From: Bob Condrey Not really a problem for wheel pants in the RV-10 area while taxiing but watch the transition from grass to the taxiway. If really concerned about sinking into the ground while parked for an extended time, just bring along some pieces of plywood to put under the tires. Make sure you pick them up when leaving though. Even during Sloshkosh (2010) no issues, but I did have plywood under the tires. Just 3 1x1' pieces of 1/2" would be fine. Bob On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:15 AM, kearney wrote: > > Hi > > I have a couple of questions for those who have parked at KOSH with -10s. > There doesn't seem to be a lost of ground clearance on my wheel pants and > am wondering is there is a risk of damage taxing on the uneven grass. > > When I flew my PA28 in, there wasn't a problem as the bottom of the pants > were higher from the ground. > > As well, I am wondering if there is a problem, for similar reasons, with > wheels sinking into the ground, especially after rain. I seem to recall a > stuck -10 that had a problem getting out for this reason. Is it worthwhile > bringing something for the wheels to sit on and if so are there any > recommendations? > > Inquiring minds need to know.... > > Cheers > > Les > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444298#444298 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:47 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: KOSH Parking From: Les Kearney Hmmmm A long taxi is a bit of a concern. Years ago I have a huge taxi going the other way to GAP. In a PA28 it was a bumpy long taxi. I also had a marshalled almost direct me into a concrete manhole. Anyway, is there anyway to avoid a long taxi? I was thinking of having both HBP and GAP signs and using whichever was appropriate. Cheers Les Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2015, at 09:50, David Leikam wrote: > > > Les, > > Grass has not been a problem for me regarding clearance but, one year I landed RWY 9 and they made me exit left onto the grass. > Had to taxi a LONG way around the field on grass over small inclines up and over each paved taxi-way intersection to get to show plane parking with the other 10s. > Burned up a brake seal and formed a leak due to unavoidably riding the brakes to steer on the grass which was less than smooth. > Also scratched the bottom of a wheel pant on the edge of a taxi way while climbing over the edge of it. > (Replaced seals with viton.) > I live 20 minutes by air from KOSH so if they are landing runway 9 I now drive. > > Dave Leikam > >> On Jul 2, 2015, at 10:15 AM, kearney wrote: >> >> >> Hi >> >> I have a couple of questions for those who have parked at KOSH with -10s. There doesn't seem to be a lost of ground clearance on my wheel pants and am wondering is there is a risk of damage taxing on the uneven grass. >> >> When I flew my PA28 in, there wasn't a problem as the bottom of the pants were higher from the ground. >> >> As well, I am wondering if there is a problem, for similar reasons, with wheels sinking into the ground, especially after rain. I seem to recall a stuck -10 that had a problem getting out for this reason. Is it worthwhile bringing something for the wheels to sit on and if so are there any recommendations? >> >> Inquiring minds need to know.... >> >> Cheers >> >> Les >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444298#444298 > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:01:38 AM PST US From: Bob Leffler Subject: Re: RV10-List: KOSH Parking Land on 18/36 and you will have pavement all the way to HBC Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Les Kearney wrote: Hmmmm A long taxi is a bit of a concern. Years ago I have a huge taxi going the other way to GAP. In a PA28 it was a bumpy long taxi. I also had a marshalled almost direct me into a concrete manhole. Anyway, is there anyway to avoid a long taxi? I was thinking of having both HBP and GAP signs and using whichever was appropriate. Cheers Les Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2015, at 09:50, David Leikam wrote: > > > Les, > > Grass has not been a problem for me regarding clearance but, one year I landed RWY 9 and they made me exit left onto the grass. > Had to taxi a LONG way around the field on grass over small inclines up and over each paved taxi-way intersection to get to show plane parking with the other 10s. > Burned up a brake seal and formed a leak due to unavoidably riding the brakes to steer on the grass which was less than smooth. > Also scratched the bottom of a wheel pant on the edge of a taxi way while climbing over the edge of it. > (Replaced seals with viton.) > I live 20 minutes by air from KOSH so if they are landing runway 9 I now drive. > > Dave Leikam > >> On Jul 2, 2015, at 10:15 AM, kearney wrote: >> >> >> Hi >> >> I have a couple of questions for those who have parked at KOSH with -10s. There doesn't seem to be a lost of ground clearance on my wheel pants and am wondering is there is a risk of damage taxing on the uneven grass. >> >> When I flew my PA28 in, there wasn't a problem as the bottom of the pants were higher from the ground. >> >> As well, I am wondering if there is a problem, for similar reasons, with wheels sinking into the ground, especially after rain. I seem to recall a stuck -10 that had a problem getting out for this reason. Is it worthwhile bringing something for the wheels to sit on and if so are there any recommendations? >> >> Inquiring minds need to know.... >> >> Cheers >> >> Les >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444298#444298 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:53:49 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: KOSH Parking From: Les Kearney Hi Bob I have flown in to kOSH many times and have never been given a choice. Is there a way to get 18/36 for sure? Cheers Les Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2015, at 11:58, Bob Leffler wrote: > > > Land on 18/36 and you will have pavement all the way to HBC > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Les Kearney wrote: > > > Hmmmm > > A long taxi is a bit of a concern. Years ago I have a huge taxi going the other way to GAP. In a PA28 it was a bumpy long taxi. I also had a marshalled almost direct me into a concrete manhole. > > Anyway, is there anyway to avoid a long taxi? I was thinking of having both HBP and GAP signs and using whichever was appropriate. > > Cheers > > Les > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 2, 2015, at 09:50, David Leikam wrote: >> >> >> Les, >> >> Grass has not been a problem for me regarding clearance but, one year I landed RWY 9 and they made me exit left onto the grass. >> Had to taxi a LONG way around the field on grass over small inclines up and over each paved taxi-way intersection to get to show plane parking with the other 10s. >> Burned up a brake seal and formed a leak due to unavoidably riding the brakes to steer on the grass which was less than smooth. >> Also scratched the bottom of a wheel pant on the edge of a taxi way while climbing over the edge of it. >> (Replaced seals with viton.) >> I live 20 minutes by air from KOSH so if they are landing runway 9 I now drive. >> >> Dave Leikam >> >>> On Jul 2, 2015, at 10:15 AM, kearney wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> I have a couple of questions for those who have parked at KOSH with -10s. There doesn't seem to be a lost of ground clearance on my wheel pants and am wondering is there is a risk of damage taxing on the uneven grass. >>> >>> When I flew my PA28 in, there wasn't a problem as the bottom of the pants were higher from the ground. >>> >>> As well, I am wondering if there is a problem, for similar reasons, with wheels sinking into the ground, especially after rain. I seem to recall a stuck -10 that had a problem getting out for this reason. Is it worthwhile bringing something for the wheels to sit on and if so are there any recommendations? >>> >>> Inquiring minds need to know.... >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Les >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444298#444298 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:20:42 PM PST US From: Bob Leffler Subject: Re: RV10-List: KOSH Parking I fly in early on Saturday. I've been asked the last two times which runway I preferred. You may not have that opportunity when they're busy. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Les Kearney wrote: Hi Bob I have flown in to kOSH many times and have never been given a choice. Is there a way to get 18/36 for sure? Cheers Les Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2015, at 11:58, Bob Leffler wrote: > > > Land on 18/36 and you will have pavement all the way to HBC > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Les Kearney wrote: > > > Hmmmm > > A long taxi is a bit of a concern. Years ago I have a huge taxi going the other way to GAP. In a PA28 it was a bumpy long taxi. I also had a marshalled almost direct me into a concrete manhole. > > Anyway, is there anyway to avoid a long taxi? I was thinking of having both HBP and GAP signs and using whichever was appropriate. > > Cheers > > Les > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 2, 2015, at 09:50, David Leikam wrote: >> >> >> Les, >> >> Grass has not been a problem for me regarding clearance but, one year I landed RWY 9 and they made me exit left onto the grass. >> Had to taxi a LONG way around the field on grass over small inclines up and over each paved taxi-way intersection to get to show plane parking with the other 10s. >> Burned up a brake seal and formed a leak due to unavoidably riding the brakes to steer on the grass which was less than smooth. >> Also scratched the bottom of a wheel pant on the edge of a taxi way while climbing over the edge of it. >> (Replaced seals with viton.) >> I live 20 minutes by air from KOSH so if they are landing runway 9 I now drive. >> >> Dave Leikam >> >>> On Jul 2, 2015, at 10:15 AM, kearney wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> I have a couple of questions for those who have parked at KOSH with -10s. There doesn't seem to be a lost of ground clearance on my wheel pants and am wondering is there is a risk of damage taxing on the uneven grass. >>> >>> When I flew my PA28 in, there wasn't a problem as the bottom of the pants were higher from the ground. >>> >>> As well, I am wondering if there is a problem, for similar reasons, with wheels sinking into the ground, especially after rain. I seem to recall a stuck -10 that had a problem getting out for this reason. Is it worthwhile bringing something for the wheels to sit on and if so are there any recommendations? >>> >>> Inquiring minds need to know.... >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Les >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444298#444298 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:45:19 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: KOSH Parking - Another Question From: "kearney" Hi Again Another question - I expect to arrived Tuesday or Wednesday (more likely). In the past has there been any problems with mid week parking in the homebuilt area? Cheers Les PS: Thanks for all the responses to my earlier post. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444316#444316 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:29:04 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: More on the red cube... From: "Lenny Iszak" Thanks for the lengths. Saves me from pulling my fancy plenum to take measurements... I have the floscan in the tunnel and it's pretty accurate for calculating the fuel used, but it's bouncing around a lot for precise LOP adjustments. Lenny -------- Lenny N311LZ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444317#444317 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:28:09 PM PST US From: Bob Leffler Subject: Re: RV10-List: KOSH Parking - Another Question People start leaving Wednesday, so there shouldn't be any issue with your RV-10. Arrive in a 172 and all bets are off. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 2, 2015, at 3:42 PM, kearney wrote: > > > Hi Again > > Another question - I expect to arrived Tuesday or Wednesday (more likely). In the past has there been any problems with mid week parking in the homebuilt area? > > Cheers > > Les > > PS: Thanks for all the responses to my earlier post. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444316#444316 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:03:44 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: KOSH Parking - Another Question From: "kearney" To paraphase Aunt Violet , what's a "172". Cheers Les (who has watched too much Downton Abbey) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444319#444319 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.