---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/17/15: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:54 AM - Re: Door gap size? (Rick Lark) 2. 05:11 AM - Re: Door gap size? (John Trollinger) 3. 05:42 AM - RV-10 Dinner (Bob Leffler) 4. 03:41 PM - Re: Re: KOSH Request (Chris) 5. 04:05 PM - Re: Re: KOSH Request (Bob Leffler) 6. 04:08 PM - Re: Re: KOSH Request (Ben) 7. 04:36 PM - Re: Re: KOSH Request (Tim Olson) 8. 08:26 PM - Re: Door gap size? (rv10flyer) 9. 08:42 PM - Re: Dual battery isolation (rv10flyer) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:46 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door gap size? From: Rick Lark Guys, I just had this conversation with my painter yesterday. The gap was discussed at length. As Deems noted, the sharp edges don't hold paint well. I made my gap quite tight and sharp, mostly 40 to 60 thou wide. The paint guys will be adjusting and breaking the edge as necessary to make the Jet Glo adhere properly. Rick #40956 Southampton, Ont On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:48 AM, Deems Davis wrote: > Geoff makes an excellent point that shouldn't be overlooked. There are > several techniques that you can use to get an almost 'invisible' gap > between doors and cabin. However...... > 1. The original issue arose because the radius on the cabin cover and the > radius on the door shells is a BIG mismatch and just looks odd. > 2. The smaller you go with the gap, the sharper the edges become > 3. Sharp edges don't take paint well, and certainly don't ' wear' well ( > the paint will chip easily. > 4. The !0 doors are " Flopy" and will flex and bend considerably once > mounted to the close coupled hinges. Too narrow a gap will lead to wear , > nicks and abrasions when opening/ closing the doors. > 5. There can be considerable differences in the thickness of the paint. > depending upon, Who does the spraying. Single stage versus multi, Brand of > paint. etc.... > > My advice is to go ahead and build a good narrow gap, but before > painting/flying, get your sand paper out and relieve it and the edges > appropriately. By the time you're ready for paint, you will have had a LOT > of time and experience putting the doors on and off again. and you'e feel > comfortable based on your own experience. Trust me, I thought I'd only > mount the doors once or twice, I think I quit counting about 30 x. > > Deems > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Geoff Combs < > g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> wrote: > >> I would go no smaller than .06 finished. I would say .070-.080. with no >> paint Only reason is that if every the door edge and the cabin top meet >> >> The paint will start to chip on that edge. FWIW >> >> >> >> Geoff Combs >> >> >> >> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: >> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Shannon Hicks >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2015 3:04 PM >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Door gap size? >> >> >> >> You guys have some amazing fiberglass skills. I think mine is +- .25"! >> >> >> >> Shannon >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:55 PM, John Trollinger >> wrote: >> >> wow, that is great, mine is not near that... >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Jeff Carpenter >> wrote: >> >> finger nail... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jeff Carpenter >> >> 40304 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 16, 2015, at 10:11 AM, digidocs wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Hey list, >> >> I'm mentally preparing for the great door edge fill/sand and I'm curious >> what size gap you'd recommend around the edge of the door---0.020", 0.040", >> 0.060"? >> >> Thanks, >> David >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444824#444824 >> >> >> >> - The RV10-List --> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >> >> http://www.matronics.com/co================ >> >> >> >> >> Westcott Press >> >> 1121 Isabel Street >> >> Burbank, CA 91506 >> >> jeff@westcottpress.com >> >> 818-861-7300 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:11:21 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door gap size? From: John Trollinger I keep telling myself I am going to fill in my door gap, but I can't seem to stop flying it for long enough to work on it.. guess I should have done it before flying :-) On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Rick Lark wrote: > Guys, I just had this conversation with my painter yesterday. The gap was > discussed at length. As Deems noted, the sharp edges don't hold paint > well. I made my gap quite tight and sharp, mostly 40 to 60 thou wide. The > paint guys will be adjusting and breaking the edge as necessary to make the > Jet Glo adhere properly. > Rick > #40956 > Southampton, Ont > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:48 AM, Deems Davis wrote: > >> Geoff makes an excellent point that shouldn't be overlooked. There are >> several techniques that you can use to get an almost 'invisible' gap >> between doors and cabin. However...... >> 1. The original issue arose because the radius on the cabin cover and the >> radius on the door shells is a BIG mismatch and just looks odd. >> 2. The smaller you go with the gap, the sharper the edges become >> 3. Sharp edges don't take paint well, and certainly don't ' wear' well >> ( the paint will chip easily. >> 4. The !0 doors are " Flopy" and will flex and bend considerably once >> mounted to the close coupled hinges. Too narrow a gap will lead to wear , >> nicks and abrasions when opening/ closing the doors. >> 5. There can be considerable differences in the thickness of the paint. >> depending upon, Who does the spraying. Single stage versus multi, Brand of >> paint. etc.... >> >> My advice is to go ahead and build a good narrow gap, but before >> painting/flying, get your sand paper out and relieve it and the edges >> appropriately. By the time you're ready for paint, you will have had a LOT >> of time and experience putting the doors on and off again. and you'e feel >> comfortable based on your own experience. Trust me, I thought I'd only >> mount the doors once or twice, I think I quit counting about 30 x. >> >> Deems >> >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Geoff Combs < >> g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> wrote: >> >>> I would go no smaller than .06 finished. I would say .070-.080. with >>> no paint Only reason is that if every the door edge and the cabin top meet >>> >>> The paint will start to chip on that edge. FWIW >>> >>> >>> >>> Geoff Combs >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: >>> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Shannon Hicks >>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2015 3:04 PM >>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com >>> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Door gap size? >>> >>> >>> >>> You guys have some amazing fiberglass skills. I think mine is +- .25"! >>> >>> >>> >>> Shannon >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:55 PM, John Trollinger >>> wrote: >>> >>> wow, that is great, mine is not near that... >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Jeff Carpenter >>> wrote: >>> >>> finger nail... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Jeff Carpenter >>> >>> 40304 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 10:11 AM, digidocs wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hey list, >>> >>> I'm mentally preparing for the great door edge fill/sand and I'm curious >>> what size gap you'd recommend around the edge of the door---0.020", 0.040", >>> 0.060"? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> David >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444824#444824 >>> >>> >>> >>> - The RV10-List --> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >>> >>> http://www.matronics.com/co================ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Westcott Press >>> >>> 1121 Isabel Street >>> >>> Burbank, CA 91506 >>> >>> jeff@westcottpress.com >>> >>> 818-861-7300 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:33 AM PST US From: Bob Leffler Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Dinner With the number of folks that have provided a RSVP, it's looking like we are going to be over 100 RV-10 enthusiasts enjoying dinner on Sunday evening. Just a couple requests. If you haven't RSVP'd yet, please do so. This is the metric we use to purcha se food. I don't want to run short on food. Submitting a RSVP is the best wa y to prevent that we don't run short. Here's the link: http://www.perfectpotluck.com/meals.php?t=DSOH9787 Please bring your own seating. We can only seat so many people at the few pi cnic tables that Bob and Gary have "acquired". If you don't bring a chair, y ou will most likely have to eat standing. See you Sunday! bob Sent from my iPad ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:41:57 PM PST US From: "Chris" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: KOSH Request Another question on this line if I may... I think I would like to park in HBP along the runway 18/36 - the original area (no offense to the usual RV-10 area) . Is this possible if I arrive Saturday evening? Thanks Chris Lucas N919AR From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Condrey Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 10:39 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: KOSH Request There's even a Beech 18 sitting in Vintage and it's not up to the axles! Bob ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:05:24 PM PST US From: Bob Leffler Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: KOSH Request The only person that can answer that question is Jeff Point and I don't beli eve he's on this mailing list. I believe they park the 10s separately to give us more room for safety and m aneuverability. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 17, 2015, at 6:38 PM, Chris wrote: > > Another question on this line if I may... I think I would like to park in H BP along the runway 18/36 - the original area (no offense to the usual RV-10 area) . Is this possible if I arrive Saturday evening? > Thanks > Chris Lucas > N919AR > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Condrey > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 10:39 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: KOSH Request > > There's even a Beech 18 sitting in Vintage and it's not up to the axles! > > Bob > > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:08:17 PM PST US From: "Ben" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: KOSH Request Maybe.... Those spots usually fill up by mid week before the show starts .. IMHO Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Chris" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: KOSH Request Another question on this line if I may... I think I would like to park i n HBP along the runway 18/36 - the original area (no offense to the usua l RV-10 area) . Is this possible if I arrive Saturday evening? Thanks Chris Lucas N919AR From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-serve r@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Condrey Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 10:39 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: KOSH Request There's even a Beech 18 sitting in Vintage and it's not up to the axles! Bob ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ========= ____________________________________________________________ NetZero now offers 4G mobile broadband. Sign up now. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT1 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:36:27 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: KOSH Request They put airventure cup racers and specific models there so it's nearly impo ssible for you. Tim > On Jul 17, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Ben wrote: > > Maybe.... > > Those spots usually fill up by mid week before the show starts.. IMHO > > > Ben Haas > N801BH > www.haaspowerair.com > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: "Chris" > To: > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: KOSH Request > Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 18:38:27 -0400 > > Another question on this line if I may... I think I would like to park in H BP along the runway 18/36 - the original area (no offense to the usual RV-10 area) . Is this possible if I arrive Saturday evening? > > Thanks > > Chris Lucas > > N919AR > > > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Condrey > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 10:39 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: KOSH Request > > > > There's even a Beech 18 sitting in Vintage and it's not up to the axles! > > > > Bob > > > > > > > ========================= > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========================= > ronics.com > ========================= > www.matronics.com/contribution > ========================= > > ____________________________________________________________ > NetZero now offers 4G mobile broadband. 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Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444902#444902 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:52 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Dual battery isolation From: "rv10flyer" Mine draws 435 Amps and if I did not have two batteries, my GRT's would reboot(below 10 VDC). -------- Wayne G. 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