---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/22/15: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:47 AM - Windscreen Fairing (tmoushon@gmail.com) 2. 07:14 AM - Re: Windscreen Fairing (Linn Walters) 3. 05:58 PM - Re: Brake broke (David Saylor) 4. 08:31 PM - Re: Brake broke (Kelly McMullen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:47:24 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Windscreen Fairing From: tmoushon@gmail.com Missing OSH this year... Dang! Vans windscreen layup procedures for the -10 start with the narrow strip of glass and works up to the 3 1/2 wide piece. I saw the layup video Vans posted on the -14, (excellent) and they start with the widest one first and work down to the narrowest. Air pocket management comes to mind as one benefit...any other thoughts/comments? ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:05 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Windscreen Fairing From: Linn Walters Not sure why the change ....... I think I would prefer the -10 plans method as it allows you to sand/fill/feather the edges of each layup as you start small and that leaves the last layer to gon smooth over a contoured fillet. I used flox to feather the edges of each layer which avoided the air pockets. I did my fillet layups per the plans and had no problems at all. Seems like a daunting task at first but I didn't have any problems at all. I armed myself with various sizes of PVC with heavy grit sandpaper tacked to them. Get the 3M spray contact cement (Home Depot) for photos ..... worn out sandpaper just peels off easily. Also at HD is a coarse black paint remover wheel that does real well in my angle grinder. Linn On 7/22/2015 8:43 AM, tmoushon@gmail.com wrote: > > Missing OSH this year... Dang! > > Vans windscreen layup procedures for the -10 start with the narrow strip of glass and works up to the 3 1/2 wide piece. I saw the layup video Vans posted on the -14, (excellent) and they start with the widest one first and work down to the narrowest. Air pocket management comes to mind as one benefit...any other thoughts/comments? > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:58:43 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Brake broke From: David Saylor Thanks folks. Jesse, I wish I'd read your post before I pulled the caliper. I had an enlightening conversation with Robbie Grove who explained the required technique to me. Basically I learned I need to taxi kind of like s-turning a tail dragger. Drift downwind (across the taxiway) without any brakes, then just enough brake to get pointed to the other side, and repeat as necessary. The brakes cool between steers. If anyone can explain it better, please do. Today I replaced the pads and the piston oring. Bled the brakes and all seems well. Should be good for enough for a few landings to get home, where I'll replace the disc and consider my upgrade options. Even Cleveland says the brakes are undersized. EAA helped a LOT with everything I needed to make the repair. The aircraft repair barn is well stocked with tools and supplies. Again thanks for the input. --Dave On Tuesday, July 21, 2015, Jesse Saint wrote: > As Coop said, it's more about technique than the brake kit, but the Matco > has double pads and should last longer. It most likely just boiled the > fluid and will harden back up when it cools down. I wouldn't do anything > for right now until you verify that. If it firms up and you don't get a > puddle by the brake, then you should be good to go. When you get home you > could replace pads and maybe caliper. > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > 352-427-0285 > jesse@saintaviation.com > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 21, 2015, at 3:19 PM, David Saylor > wrote: > > We landed at OSH around noon. We landed 27 in a strong crosswind then > taxied pretty far to the east, riding the brake as necessary. I guess my > technique needs work because I think the right one overheated. By the time > we got to HBP it was mushy, then a few seconds later it went to the floor. > I stopped on the taxiway with the other brake. EAA tied us down on the > cement at the end of P for repairs. > > I pulled the wheel pant and peeked under the cowl. The only sign of any > loose fluid is out the top of the reservoir--quite a bit really. No leaks > in the cabin. And the disc looks really bad, very scored and worn. The pads > still have meat but they look sort of like the edges have chipped off. > Maybe from heat. > > I replaced the right caliper a few years ago after it stranded us due to > leaking. A new oring didn't help. Same brake again. > > Now I'm considering something other than Cleveland. Any suggestions? > > --Dave > > * > > D============================================ > List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > D============================================ > //forums.matronics.com > D============================================ > ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > D============================================ > > * > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:31:19 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Brake broke From: Kelly McMullen I am not entirely convinced that there is anything lacking with the Clevelands. The RV-10 empty weight is virtually identical to my Mooney M20E. Approx 1645 lbs empty, 2575 gross. Uses 6:00X6 six ply tires. Vso 57 mph, Approach speed 80. Only real difference is the 10's lack of nose wheel steering. My Mooney uses similar 6" Cleveland wheels and brakes designed in the early 60s, and later versions do have improvements. I do think that using the high temp brake fluid and viton seals are the main items needed to deal with the heat build up from long cross wind taxis. Obviously with P factor the right brake will get more use than the left. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 5:55 PM, David Saylor wrote: > Thanks folks. > > > Should be good for enough for a few landings to get home, where I'll > replace the disc and consider my upgrade options. Even Cleveland says the > brakes are undersized. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.