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1. 01:54 AM - Re: Re: Vent Install Aerosport OH Console (Bob Leffler)
2. 06:15 AM - Re: Vent Install Aerosport OH Console (mhealydds)
3. 06:50 PM - Re: ADS-B Receivers (Marcus Cooper)
4. 08:13 PM - Re: ADS-B Receivers (Tim Olson)
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| Subject: | Re: Vent Install Aerosport OH Console |
Great tool! I think I will make a copy of it. I have a loose light the is
forward of the air vent that I can't get to with the vent in the way.
Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 29, 2015, at 10:41 PM, bhoppe2 <bruce.hoppe@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I installed the SteinAir vents after the overhead console was bonded to the canopy
and clear coated. Of course, the openings were cut to size beforehand.
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> I made a tool to tighten the nuts inside the console. I cut a 7/8" long piece
of 2" PVC pipe, then drilled 2 small holes in the end of the PVC pipe that align
with the spanner wrench slots in the air vent nut. Insert small finish nails
in those hole in the pipe and you have a much better way to tight the nut.
I also have a series of small holes around the perimeter of the PVC pipe so
that I could insert a drift punch and use it as a lever to rotate and get the
nut even tighter. I have installed and removed the air vents a couple times
without a problem. Attached is a photo on the "tool".
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| Subject: | Re: Vent Install Aerosport OH Console |
I have cut the holes and fit vents...was just trying to decide if to install now
before I bond or not. I tried to install with OH console clecoed in placed and
seemed difficult which is why I posed question, but I think this tool is a
great way to go. Thanks
Matt
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| Subject: | Re: ADS-B Receivers |
Gents,
Thanks for all of the inputs, great information! This, as usual, has opened
up a whole can of worms for me. What started as a simple, nice for now, addition
has led to possible a full upgrade. I have the GRT WS EFIS and EIS with
TruTrack autopilot and GNS 480. In all honest its a great system and meets my
needs, but now that its pushing 9 years old and the options have significantly
increased and improved Im thinking about upgrading. The new GRT HX looks great
and would be a relatively easy upgrade. However, Im also looking at the
Garmin G3X, Dynon Skyview and am open to any other suggestions that are similarly
priced. Im hesitant to go down a path that would require new autopilot servos,
etc as that system is working great and theres no need to create unnecessary
expenses. The goal would be to have nicer displays and incorporate ADS-B
in/out so the new EFIS as well as an appropriate transponder and receiver would
be necessary. The GRT HX and Trig TT22 look good, as does the NavWorx 600EXP.
Just wondering what other options folks are using or other considerations?
Thanks again,
Marcus
> On Aug 29, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
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> That's where mine is too, next to the battery. Just had to run some
> Shielded cables to the cockpit.
> Tim
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>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote:
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>> I usually install them in the tailcone for short antenna runs.
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>> 352-427-0285
>> jesse@saintaviation.com
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
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>>> After doing a little more research on the NavWorx site Im thinking thats the
way to go, Ive got a request in to see if the EXP model will support both EFIS
and iPad simultaneously. Tim, where did you install your ADS600? Still sorting
out the antenna situation, but if I put the system behind the instrument
panel then a remote antenna is likely the only option.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for the info,
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Tim and Linn, thanks for the quick responses! To be honest my plan was to
put off the 2020 requirement a few more years in hopes that increased production
and competition would lower the prices and I may not have the RV-10 that long
either. Cant imagine giving it up, but the needs are always changing. I
hadnt heard of the Pathfinder and the NavWorx EXP model looks pretty good. NavWorx
seem to be quite proud of their antennas, but otherwise the price is pretty
impressive and appears to be fully capable.
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> You are forgetting one thing in your equation. You're going to need something
later to be legal that transmits, not just receives, most of those portables
you listed will not transmit the "out" portion. The NavWorX btw does do traffic
on the iPad with wingX, so it isn't WX only. (Talking about the 600b or
EXP model. My advice is to first pick one that does IN + OUT that integrates
with your GRT EFIS, but then choose one that you can also interface to an iPad.
That limits you quite a bit to what you can then choose. I'm pretty sure
the NavWorX ADS600B will work for you, guessing that there's a good chance the
ADS600-EXP may work but not sure if it will do the EFIS + iPad, but then you
have the FreeFlight ADS-B unit too, which I am pretty sure can do the EFIS but
not sure on the iPad. The good news is that if the NavWorX EXP model will do
it, it should be pretty cheap to do. The ADS600B will definitely work though.
I have one in my RV10 and just completed wiring on!
> e!
>> i!
>>> nto my RV14 as well...both to the Cheltons plus wifi adapters to use it on
the iPad. One tip...if you go with wingX they offer a 3 year subscription that
saves some money. I have WingX, Foreflight, and FlyQ. wingX and FlyQ both work
with the NavWorX. FlyQ just turned over a 2.0 release to Apple that I beta
tested and it's way better than the original version...you wouldn't want that
old version. But now you have many options. But I would ditch the idea of ALL
of those portables and definitely buy one that will make you 2020 ready that
is permanently installed, no matter what brand you use. Plus, most of those
will only receive something if someone is transmitting in your very local area.
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I realize this has already been discussed in the past, but Im looking to get
an ADS-B receiver and want to pin down whats best for my setup. I use an iPad
for charts and have Grand Rapids Technology EFIS displays. Im not committed
to a particular APP for the iPad, although I do like Foreflight.
>>>>
>>>> In my research Ive found the Stratus system and Foreflight are tied together
as are the GDL-39 and Garmin Pilot, neither of these will talk to the GRT displays.
>>>>
>>>> Wing-X Pro seems to talk to all the other manufacturers so if I want to be
able to display traffic and weather I should probably go that route. That leaves
the XGPS170, Clarity, iLevil and SkyRadar (NavWorx is wx only). The XGPS170
is by far the cheapest but also does not have a backup AHRS. As I already
have a backup Im not too concerned about that so saving the coin seems good.
The SkyRadar seems to be the next choice up in price.
>>>>
>>>> I was particularly wondering if anyone has any bad experience with the XGPS170?
It also has only one traffic receiver band but from my reading that is
not really an issue as the other band is more aimed toward much faster traffic.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Marcus
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| Subject: | Re: ADS-B Receivers |
Not that this will be the way you should go if you're considering other upgrades,
but, seeing that you have a 480 in your panel, if you get the full Non-EXP
model of NavWorX, you could also interface it to that, so you'd have EFIS, GPS,
and iPad options. That said, if you do switch to the G3X that's a nice system
and if you do that, you should get all the accessories from Garmin too. Do
check on the database costs though. I am not sure what they run, and I've heard
that they can be "cheaper" in a bundle but the may not be the same as what
you're used to today. You've got a lot of variables to consider, and a lot of
good options on how to get ADS-B in your panel. Personally, for WX, I think
you can't beat satellite, but for traffic, I think everyone should be rushing
to get EFIS integrated traffic ASAP, because the more that outfit with it the
better it all works.
Tim
> On Aug 30, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
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> Gents,
> Thanks for all of the inputs, great information! This, as usual, has opened
up a whole can of worms for me. What started as a simple, nice for now, addition
has led to possible a full upgrade. I have the GRT WS EFIS and EIS with
TruTrack autopilot and GNS 480. In all honest its a great system and meets
my needs, but now that its pushing 9 years old and the options have significantly
increased and improved Im thinking about upgrading. The new GRT HX looks
great and would be a relatively easy upgrade. However, Im also looking at the
Garmin G3X, Dynon Skyview and am open to any other suggestions that are similarly
priced. Im hesitant to go down a path that would require new autopilot servos,
etc as that system is working great and theres no need to create unnecessary
expenses. The goal would be to have nicer displays and incorporate ADS-B
in/out so the new EFIS as well as an appropriate transponder and receiver would
be necessary. The GRT HX and Tr!
> ig TT22 look good, as does the NavWorx 600EXP. Just wondering what other options
folks are using or other considerations?
>
> Thanks again,
> Marcus
>
>> On Aug 29, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> That's where mine is too, next to the battery. Just had to run some
>> Shielded cables to the cockpit.
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I usually install them in the tailcone for short antenna runs.
>>>
>>> Jesse Saint
>>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>>> 352-427-0285
>>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> After doing a little more research on the NavWorx site Im thinking thats the
way to go, Ive got a request in to see if the EXP model will support both EFIS
and iPad simultaneously. Tim, where did you install your ADS600? Still sorting
out the antenna situation, but if I put the system behind the instrument
panel then a remote antenna is likely the only option.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for the info,
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Tim and Linn, thanks for the quick responses! To be honest my plan was to
put off the 2020 requirement a few more years in hopes that increased production
and competition would lower the prices and I may not have the RV-10 that
long either. Cant imagine giving it up, but the needs are always changing. I
hadnt heard of the Pathfinder and the NavWorx EXP model looks pretty good. NavWorx
seem to be quite proud of their antennas, but otherwise the price is pretty
impressive and appears to be fully capable.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are forgetting one thing in your equation. You're going to need something
later to be legal that transmits, not just receives, most of those portables
you listed will not transmit the "out" portion. The NavWorX btw does do
traffic on the iPad with wingX, so it isn't WX only. (Talking about the 600b or
EXP model. My advice is to first pick one that does IN + OUT that integrates
with your GRT EFIS, but then choose one that you can also interface to an iPad.
That limits you quite a bit to what you can then choose. I'm pretty sure
the NavWorX ADS600B will work for you, guessing that there's a good chance the
ADS600-EXP may work but not sure if it will do the EFIS + iPad, but then you
have the FreeFlight ADS-B unit too, which I am pretty sure can do the EFIS but
not sure on the iPad. The good news is that if the NavWorX EXP model will do
it, it should be pretty cheap to do. The ADS600B will definitely work though.
I have one in my RV10 and just completed wiring o!
> n!
>> e!
>>> i!
>>>> nto my RV14 as well...both to the Cheltons plus wifi adapters to use it on
the iPad. One tip...if you go with wingX they offer a 3 year subscription that
saves some money. I have WingX, Foreflight, and FlyQ. wingX and FlyQ both
work with the NavWorX. FlyQ just turned over a 2.0 release to Apple that I beta
tested and it's way better than the original version...you wouldn't want that
old version. But now you have many options. But I would ditch the idea of ALL
of those portables and definitely buy one that will make you 2020 ready that
is permanently installed, no matter what brand you use. Plus, most of those
will only receive something if someone is transmitting in your very local area.
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I realize this has already been discussed in the past, but Im looking to
get an ADS-B receiver and want to pin down whats best for my setup. I use an
iPad for charts and have Grand Rapids Technology EFIS displays. Im not committed
to a particular APP for the iPad, although I do like Foreflight.
>>>>>
>>>>> In my research Ive found the Stratus system and Foreflight are tied together
as are the GDL-39 and Garmin Pilot, neither of these will talk to the GRT
displays.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wing-X Pro seems to talk to all the other manufacturers so if I want to be
able to display traffic and weather I should probably go that route. That leaves
the XGPS170, Clarity, iLevil and SkyRadar (NavWorx is wx only). The XGPS170
is by far the cheapest but also does not have a backup AHRS. As I already
have a backup Im not too concerned about that so saving the coin seems good.
The SkyRadar seems to be the next choice up in price.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was particularly wondering if anyone has any bad experience with the XGPS170?
It also has only one traffic receiver band but from my reading that is
not really an issue as the other band is more aimed toward much faster traffic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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