---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/07/15: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:23 AM - Re: iPad Reviews (Bill Watson) 2. 11:48 AM - Re: iPad Reviews (Les Kearney) 3. 02:29 PM - Re: iPad Reviews (Bob Turner) 4. 03:28 PM - Rudder Pedal Extensions (Carl Froehlich) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:23:17 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: iPad Reviews From: Bill Watson I'd suggest that figuring out how and where you will mount it is a key decision, particularly with respect to mini vs non-mini. Guessing as to exactly how you will end up using it is another important factor - but guessing is what it is. I have a long-in-the-tooth multi-screen GRT-HX panel with a G430w for smarts and Navworx ADSB for wx and traffic. This gives me everything I need to fly IFR, permanently mounted and fully integrated into my HX screens... except for approach plates. (there is a plate option available for the HX but I chose to stay with Foreflight) But I always fly with an iPad running Foreflight. It's used for flight planning, briefings, map work, and procedure information. The one thing it is missing that I wish I had is Nexrad display. I have them on the HX but map work using Foreflight on the iPad is so much more flexible and quicker that I'd like to have Nexrad imagery there as well. Plus I don't have to disturb my flight displays to explore weather driven options. Traffic on the iPad is not needed in my configuration. I originally had the iPad 1 or 2 in the largest size. My wife later got a mini and I determined that I still preferred a larger screen when I replaced my first one. I now have what I guess is an iPad Air... I little smaller than the original but still with the big screen. I paid a lot of attention to how I would mount it. I ended up fabricating a center console with the triple role of 1) providing an optimal mount for a RAM mounted iPad, 2) holding an O2 tank and 3) an elbow rest. In retrospect I'm not sure there is a perfect mounting location but I think I have the optimal one for me. No stick interference, no panel interference, falls easily under my right hand for reading and writing (I've gone completely paperless by using the less than optimal FF/iPad scratch pad for notes). However, it does interfere with my view and access to the power quadrant. So on takeoff and most landings I just shift it out of the way on the RAM mount. On x-windy landings I remove the RAM mount completely. But since 95%+ of my flying is in cruise, 100% clear and free power quadrant access is not a concern. I think the mounting location might drive the iPad size decision but in any case, the mounting question deserves your attention. I added a charging jack as well. The iPhone is an important backup for IFR work if you manage it as such. Here are some pics iPad RAM mount on center console Bill "who's learned to love closed systems while longing for open ones" Watson On 9/4/2015 2:38 PM, Jeff Carpenter wrote: > I'm in the market for a new iPad to run Foreflight. Any > suggestions/opinions? > > Jeff Carpenter > Building hours so I can start flying my own plane. > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:48:09 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: iPad Reviews From: Les Kearney Hi Bill I picked up a mygoflight.com clip mount for an iPad at KOSH. I plan to mount it on the tunnel similar in position to yours. It has a single point adjustment on the elbow that locks all the joints. A v ey innovative feature. I will post pic when I have it in. Cheers Les Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2015, at 12:19, Bill Watson wrote: > > I'd suggest that figuring out how and where you will mount it is a key dec ision, particularly with respect to mini vs non-mini. Guessing as to exactl y how you will end up using it is another important factor - but guessing is what it is. > > I have a long-in-the-tooth multi-screen GRT-HX panel with a G430w for smar ts and Navworx ADSB for wx and traffic. This gives me everything I need to f ly IFR, permanently mounted and fully integrated into my HX screens... excep t for approach plates. (there is a plate option available for the HX but I c hose to stay with Foreflight) > > But I always fly with an iPad running Foreflight. It's used for flight pl anning, briefings, map work, and procedure information. The one thing it is missing that I wish I had is Nexrad display. I have them on the HX but map work using Foreflight on the iPad is so much more flexible and quicker that I'd like to have Nexrad imagery there as well. Plus I don't have to distur b my flight displays to explore weather driven options. Traffic on the iPad is not needed in my configuration. > > I originally had the iPad 1 or 2 in the largest size. My wife later got a mini and I determined that I still preferred a larger screen when I replace d my first one. I now have what I guess is an iPad Air... I little smaller t han the original but still with the big screen. > > I paid a lot of attention to how I would mount it. I ended up fabricating a center console with the triple role of 1) providing an optimal mount for a RAM mounted iPad, 2) holding an O2 tank and 3) an elbow rest. In retrospec t I'm not sure there is a perfect mounting location but I think I have the o ptimal one for me. No stick interference, no panel interference, falls easi ly under my right hand for reading and writing (I've gone completely paperle ss by using the less than optimal FF/iPad scratch pad for notes). However, i t does interfere with my view and access to the power quadrant. So on takeo ff and most landings I just shift it out of the way on the RAM mount. On x- windy landings I remove the RAM mount completely. But since 95%+ of my flyi ng is in cruise, 100% clear and free power quadrant access is not a concern. > > I think the mounting location might drive the iPad size decision but in an y case, the mounting question deserves your attention. I added a cha rging jack as well. The iPhone is an important backup for IFR work if you m anage it as such. > > Here are some pics iPad RAM mount on center console > > Bill "who's learned to love closed systems while longing for open ones" Wa tson > > > >> On 9/4/2015 2:38 PM, Jeff Carpenter wrote: >> I'm in the market for a new iPad to run Foreflight. Any suggestions/opini ons? >> >> Jeff Carpenter >> Building hours so I can start flying my own plane. > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:29:19 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: iPad Reviews From: "Bob Turner" Bill, I'm not sure I understand your set up. You put departure and approach procedures on your iPad? But at the most critical times - takeoff into or approaches in low ifr - you need to move the iPad for throttle access? Is it still easily seen? -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446868#446868 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:28:41 PM PST US From: "Carl Froehlich" Subject: RV10-List: Rudder Pedal Extensions All, My son and son-in-law are both Naval Aviators. As is easy to do, both have a tendency to drag the brakes. A good friend of mine, Tom Doran, made these extension on his milling machine from 1" Delron. He even made me one out of steel for me to use as a drilling gig. I used a couple of hose clamps to attached the gig and drill the #19 holes. While I did this to help the son and son-in-law I confess I found them to be much better than just the stock set up. 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