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| Subject: | Re: iPad Reviews |
I understand the confusion - didn't know how many words to wrap around
the description.
I don't actually need to move the iPad for throttle access. I can fully
access the quadrant and operate it without moving the iPad or mount from
it's normal position. It does require me to reach around the iPad just
a bit. If I want to see the entire quadrant I need to shift my head
position slightly to the right to see around the iPad. I do this for
the 'big pull' to my LOP setting for example.
I can also simply nudge the iPad to the side with my right arm as I
reach for the quadrant which gives me a fuller view of the quadrant and
eliminates any reach around. I can still see the iPad if needed but I'm
likely to set the power and nudge it back into position. The RAM mount
is easily set so that it's stiff enough to maintain position but also
easily nudged side to side as desired.
None of the above requires any thought or causes any concern in any
phase of flight. Just an observation of how I use it given its mounting
position. Put another way, the quadrant and the iPad naturally want to
occupy the same space when operated, i.e. falling naturally under the
right hand. In my installation they do occupy the same space visually -
the quadrant being a little further away than the iPad.
I do find myself sometimes removing the iPad and its mount for gusty
xwind type landings, particularly if it's the last landing of the day
(because the iPad goes in the flight bag after landing). It gives me a
completely unobstructed space to whack the stick around and fool with
the power. If it's a fuel stop, I'll tend to keep it in place for
convenience. There's no requirement to demount it for takeoffs and
landings, just something I tend to do on last landings of the day and/or
in gusty conditions. As you know, gusty conditions and low weather
rarely go together....
On the very positive side, I do a fair number of departures into low
conditions from my uncontrolled field that is right up against a busy
Class C. It sometimes gets busy launching into VFR and picking up my
clearance while staying below a low ceiling. More rarely flying a
clearance into controlled airspace against a void time is also a busy
time. The iPad and its mount shine really shine in those situations.
On 9/7/2015 5:25 PM, Bob Turner wrote:
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> Bill, I'm not sure I understand your set up. You put departure and approach procedures
on your iPad? But at the most critical times - takeoff into or approaches
in low ifr - you need to move the iPad for throttle access? Is it still
easily seen?
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| Subject: | Re: iPad Reviews |
Those look real good Les. I probably would have gone with that if they
were available 4-5 years ago. I considered trying to fabricate
something like it but ended up doing the full monty with the console.
BTW, while an elbow rest for using the iPad in that position is 'nice',
it doesn't really seem to be a need. But I find that an elbow rest for
just cruising is very nice. However, center consoles remove some of the
spacious feel of the cockpit. I tried to minimize the bulk of my
console so it didn't impinge on hip room (aka ass clearance).
If an O2 tank isn't involved, the ideal config might be a mount like the
MyGoFlight and a pull down arm connected to the seat back like mid-90s
Dodge minvans had. Keeps the spacious feel and provides a place to rest
the arm.
On 9/7/2015 2:43 PM, Les Kearney wrote:
> Hi Bill
>
> I picked up a mygoflight.com <http://mygoflight.com> clip mount for an
> iPad at KOSH. I plan to mount it on the tunnel similar in position to
> yours.
>
> It has a single point adjustment on the elbow that locks all the
> joints. A vey innovative feature. I will post pic when I have it in.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 7, 2015, at 12:19, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com
> <mailto:Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>> wrote:
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>> I'd suggest that figuring out how and where you will mount it is a
>> key decision, particularly with respect to mini vs non-mini.
>> Guessing as to exactly how you will end up using it is another
>> important factor - but guessing is what it is.
>>
>> I have a long-in-the-tooth multi-screen GRT-HX panel with a G430w for
>> smarts and Navworx ADSB for wx and traffic. This gives me everything
>> I need to fly IFR, permanently mounted and fully integrated into my
>> HX screens... except for approach plates. (there is a plate option
>> available for the HX but I chose to stay with Foreflight)
>>
>> But I always fly with an iPad running Foreflight. It's used for
>> flight planning, briefings, map work, and procedure information. The
>> one thing it is missing that I wish I had is Nexrad display. I have
>> them on the HX but map work using Foreflight on the iPad is so much
>> more flexible and quicker that I'd like to have Nexrad imagery there
>> as well. Plus I don't have to disturb my flight displays to explore
>> weather driven options. Traffic on the iPad is not needed in my
>> configuration.
>>
>> I originally had the iPad 1 or 2 in the largest size. My wife later
>> got a mini and I determined that I still preferred a larger screen
>> when I replaced my first one. I now have what I guess is an iPad
>> Air... I little smaller than the original but still with the big screen.
>>
>> I paid a lot of attention to how I would mount it. I ended up
>> fabricating a center console with the triple role of 1) providing an
>> optimal mount for a RAM mounted iPad, 2) holding an O2 tank and 3) an
>> elbow rest. In retrospect I'm not sure there is a perfect mounting
>> location but I think I have the optimal one for me. No stick
>> interference, no panel interference, falls easily under my right hand
>> for reading and writing (I've gone completely paperless by using the
>> less than optimal FF/iPad scratch pad for notes). However, it does
>> interfere with my view and access to the power quadrant. So on
>> takeoff and most landings I just shift it out of the way on the RAM
>> mount. On x-windy landings I remove the RAM mount completely. But
>> since 95%+ of my flying is in cruise, 100% clear and free power
>> quadrant access is not a concern.
>>
>> I think the mounting location might drive the iPad size decision but
>> in any case, the mounting question deserves your attention. I added
>> a charging jack as well. The iPhone is an important backup for IFR
>> work if you manage it as such.
>>
>> Here are some pics iPad RAM mount on center console
>> <http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=mauledriver&project=224&category=8533&log=214269&row=1>
>>
>> Bill "who's learned to love closed systems while longing for open
>> ones" Watson
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/4/2015 2:38 PM, Jeff Carpenter wrote:
>>> I'm in the market for a new iPad to run Foreflight. Any
>>> suggestions/opinions?
>>>
>>> Jeff Carpenter
>>> Building hours so I can start flying my own plane.
>>>
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