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1. 12:45 AM - Re: First Flight Report (Patrick Pulis)
2. 05:12 AM - Re: First Flight Report (Rich Hansen)
3. 06:09 AM - Re: Re: First Flight Report (Shannon Hicks)
4. 06:15 AM - Re: Re: First Flight Report (Shannon Hicks)
5. 07:03 AM - Re: Re: First Flight Report (Les Kearney)
6. 07:42 AM - Re: Re: First Flight Report (Sean Stephens)
7. 09:10 AM - Re: Re: First Flight Report (Jesse Saint)
8. 09:58 AM - Re: Re: First Flight Report (Tim Olson)
9. 03:09 PM - Copperstate RV10 Nest 2015 (woxofswa)
10. 06:51 PM - Re: Copperstate RV10 Nest 2015 (Bob Turner)
11. 06:58 PM - Re: Re: Copperstate RV10 Nest 2015 (Kelly McMullen)
12. 07:05 PM - Cheapest insurance policy yet --SkySmith (David Saylor)
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight Report |
Well done mate, wishing you safe skies always.
Warm regards
Patrick Pulis
Adelaide, South Australia
> On 15 Oct 2015, at 05:33, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have finally had a chance to calm down and wanted to let you guys know t
hat the first flight of kit 41153 occurred yesterday around 11:00.
>
> Our first flight was quite short as we had one cylinder that was a bit hot
ter than the rest, so we landed to see what was happening. It turned out to
be a tiny spec of crud partially blocking the injection port. We quickly b
uttoned everything back up after a confirmation run-up and proceeded to circ
le the airport at around 1800' for half an hour. We then landed, inspected e
verything again and took off for a short cross country.
>
> All told, we put 2.0 on the tach and everything is running very smoothly.
These planes are absolutely amazing.
>
> Thanks for all of the info you guys put out! I will post some video later
when I get a chance to download
>
> Shannon Hicks
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight Report |
Great job Shannon! Can feel your excitement, a great motivator for those of us
shortly behind you. Keep us posted on how everything goes and have some fun!
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Rich Hansen
RV-6A
RV-10
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447967#447967
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight Report |
Here are a few lessons I learned during my first flight day.
I didn't invite any friends or family to witness the first flight. It was
a very private affair, because I didn't want any undue pressure to fly when
I should scrub. The downside to this was that I don't have any kick ass
videos showing the plane taking off for the first time, but I also wasn't
afraid to cancel the flight. This was a really hard decision for me to
make. After spending 4 years working on this project, I wanted to share
the experience with as many people as I could especially everyone that had
helped me along the way. But, in the end, I believe that I made the right
decision for me.
It was incredibly easy to get a clogged fuel injector. During the very
first takeoff, the EGT and CHT of cylinder #3 were higher than any of the
others. This was due to a partially blocked fuel injector. I was shocked
at how small the debris was when we opened it up. It was maybe the half
the size of a grain of sand. I had mostly homemade hoses FWF that I
thought I had cleaned and flushed thoroughly. Apparently, this little spec
of trash was hiding somewhere between my fuel filter, in the tunnel, and
the injection port on cylinder #3.
During that very first take off, I had no clue as to why the EGT and CHT
for one cylinder was hotter than the others, but Nick did. This leads me
to lesson number three.
As a first time builder it was incredibly helpful to have an extremely
experienced RV builder/pilot there with me the whole day. He knew what was
normal and what was abnormal. He instantly suspected a partially clogged
injection port and we had the situation remedied in a flash. Without him,
the day would have been much more stressful and probably would not have
ended with our 2 subsequent successful flights.
The new 2nd pilot rule maybe one of the smartest things the FAA has done in
quite some time.
Shannon Hicks
N898SE
Phase 1
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Rich Hansen <karolamy@roadrunner.com>
wrote:
>
> Great job Shannon! Can feel your excitement, a great motivator for those
> of us shortly behind you. Keep us posted on how everything goes and have
> some fun!
>
> --------
> Rich Hansen
> RV-6A
> RV-10
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447967#447967
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight Report |
I forgot to add another lesson learned.
I am not very good at editing videos to make them interesting! Here is the
video of what I am calling my first real flight! I apologize for the
music, but I had to put something there.
https://youtu.be/rwKsPjCL458
Shannon
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here are a few lessons I learned during my first flight day.
>
> I didn't invite any friends or family to witness the first flight. It was
> a very private affair, because I didn't want any undue pressure to fly when
> I should scrub. The downside to this was that I don't have any kick ass
> videos showing the plane taking off for the first time, but I also wasn't
> afraid to cancel the flight. This was a really hard decision for me to
> make. After spending 4 years working on this project, I wanted to share
> the experience with as many people as I could especially everyone that had
> helped me along the way. But, in the end, I believe that I made the right
> decision for me.
>
> It was incredibly easy to get a clogged fuel injector. During the very
> first takeoff, the EGT and CHT of cylinder #3 were higher than any of the
> others. This was due to a partially blocked fuel injector. I was shocked
> at how small the debris was when we opened it up. It was maybe the half
> the size of a grain of sand. I had mostly homemade hoses FWF that I
> thought I had cleaned and flushed thoroughly. Apparently, this little spec
> of trash was hiding somewhere between my fuel filter, in the tunnel, and
> the injection port on cylinder #3.
>
> During that very first take off, I had no clue as to why the EGT and CHT
> for one cylinder was hotter than the others, but Nick did. This leads me
> to lesson number three.
>
> As a first time builder it was incredibly helpful to have an extremely
> experienced RV builder/pilot there with me the whole day. He knew what was
> normal and what was abnormal. He instantly suspected a partially clogged
> injection port and we had the situation remedied in a flash. Without him,
> the day would have been much more stressful and probably would not have
> ended with our 2 subsequent successful flights.
>
> The new 2nd pilot rule maybe one of the smartest things the FAA has done
> in quite some time.
>
> Shannon Hicks
> N898SE
> Phase 1
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Rich Hansen <karolamy@roadrunner.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Great job Shannon! Can feel your excitement, a great motivator for
>> those of us shortly behind you. Keep us posted on how everything goes and
>> have some fun!
>>
>> --------
>> Rich Hansen
>> RV-6A
>> RV-10
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447967#447967
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight Report |
Congrats Shannon
Enjoy the new toy it is well worth the effort.
I completely agree with you view in the second pilot rule. In Canada, Transp
ort Canada encourages a second set of eyes and hands on board for the first f
light. It is far safer when you can have a very experienced instructor in th
e right seat. For the very rare occasions when something goes wrong it will b
e worth it.
Cheers
Les
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 15, 2015, at 07:06, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Here are a few lessons I learned during my first flight day.
>
> I didn't invite any friends or family to witness the first flight. It was
a very private affair, because I didn't want any undue pressure to fly when
I should scrub. The downside to this was that I don't have any kick ass vi
deos showing the plane taking off for the first time, but I also wasn't afra
id to cancel the flight. This was a really hard decision for me to make. A
fter spending 4 years working on this project, I wanted to share the experie
nce with as many people as I could especially everyone that had helped me al
ong the way. But, in the end, I believe that I made the right decision for m
e.
>
> It was incredibly easy to get a clogged fuel injector. During the very fir
st takeoff, the EGT and CHT of cylinder #3 were higher than any of the other
s. This was due to a partially blocked fuel injector. I was shocked at how s
mall the debris was when we opened it up. It was maybe the half the size of
a grain of sand. I had mostly homemade hoses FWF that I thought I had clea
ned and flushed thoroughly. Apparently, this little spec of trash was hidin
g somewhere between my fuel filter, in the tunnel, and the injection port on
cylinder #3.
>
> During that very first take off, I had no clue as to why the EGT and CHT f
or one cylinder was hotter than the others, but Nick did. This leads me to
lesson number three.
>
> As a first time builder it was incredibly helpful to have an extremely exp
erienced RV builder/pilot there with me the whole day. He knew what was nor
mal and what was abnormal. He instantly suspected a partially clogged injec
tion port and we had the situation remedied in a flash. Without him, the da
y would have been much more stressful and probably would not have ended with
our 2 subsequent successful flights.
>
> The new 2nd pilot rule maybe one of the smartest things the FAA has done i
n quite some time.
>
> Shannon Hicks
> N898SE
> Phase 1
>
>
>
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Rich Hansen <karolamy@roadrunner.com> wr
ote:
>>
>> Great job Shannon! Can feel your excitement, a great motivator for thos
e of us shortly behind you. Keep us posted on how everything goes and have s
ome fun!
>>
>> --------
>> Rich Hansen
>> RV-6A
>> RV-10
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447967#447967
>>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight Report |
Congrats Shannon.
The music is fitting. I had plenty of friends and family that thought I
was crazy 10 years ago when I started building. Those same people now
line up for a ride. :)
-Sean #40303
> Shannon Hicks <mailto:civeng123@gmail.com>
> October 15, 2015 at 8:12 AM
> I forgot to add another lesson learned.
>
> I am not very good at editing videos to make them interesting! Here
> is the video of what I am calling my first real flight! I apologize
> for the music, but I had to put something there.
>
>
> https://youtu.be/rwKsPjCL458
>
> Shannon
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight Report |
I agree completely. Nice write-up.
I do also like the new 2nd pilot rule, but I NEVER do first flight with more
than one person. I just don't think it's worth the risk. The trouble here i
s if the owner/builder wants to do the first flight himself unless he is a v
ery experienced pilot. I have done now about 6-10 first flights, and always a
lone. If things work correctly and no major issues on first flight, then may
be the owner/builder on the second flight. Usually it's third flight, though
.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
352-427-0285
jesse@saintaviation.com
Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 15, 2015, at 8:06 AM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Here are a few lessons I learned during my first flight day.
>
> I didn't invite any friends or family to witness the first flight. It was
a very private affair, because I didn't want any undue pressure to fly when
I should scrub. The downside to this was that I don't have any kick ass vi
deos showing the plane taking off for the first time, but I also wasn't afra
id to cancel the flight. This was a really hard decision for me to make. A
fter spending 4 years working on this project, I wanted to share the experie
nce with as many people as I could especially everyone that had helped me al
ong the way. But, in the end, I believe that I made the right decision for m
e.
>
> It was incredibly easy to get a clogged fuel injector. During the very fir
st takeoff, the EGT and CHT of cylinder #3 were higher than any of the other
s. This was due to a partially blocked fuel injector. I was shocked at how s
mall the debris was when we opened it up. It was maybe the half the size of
a grain of sand. I had mostly homemade hoses FWF that I thought I had clea
ned and flushed thoroughly. Apparently, this little spec of trash was hidin
g somewhere between my fuel filter, in the tunnel, and the injection port on
cylinder #3.
>
> During that very first take off, I had no clue as to why the EGT and CHT f
or one cylinder was hotter than the others, but Nick did. This leads me to
lesson number three.
>
> As a first time builder it was incredibly helpful to have an extremely exp
erienced RV builder/pilot there with me the whole day. He knew what was nor
mal and what was abnormal. He instantly suspected a partially clogged injec
tion port and we had the situation remedied in a flash. Without him, the da
y would have been much more stressful and probably would not have ended with
our 2 subsequent successful flights.
>
> The new 2nd pilot rule maybe one of the smartest things the FAA has done i
n quite some time.
>
> Shannon Hicks
> N898SE
> Phase 1
>
>
>
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Rich Hansen <karolamy@roadrunner.com> wr
ote:
>>
>> Great job Shannon! Can feel your excitement, a great motivator for thos
e of us shortly behind you. Keep us posted on how everything goes and have s
ome fun!
>>
>> --------
>> Rich Hansen
>> RV-6A
>> RV-10
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447967#447967
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight Report |
I have to say that I think that the additional pilot program is
kind of a mixed bag too. There are to many factors to make
a blanket statement as to if I agree with everything, or not,
or if I find it useful, and I actually appreciate Jesse's position
that he does the first flights alone. I'll give you an example.
Pilot Builder has 125 hours, with almost nothing in RV-10's
other than some quick transition training, and many of
the hours are not recent, as airplane building took
all the available time and money.
Other dude pilot, me, has over 1100 hours in RV10's.
With this in mind, who do you stick in the left seat,
and who's going to be the one at the controls?
From my perspective, I'd be happy to do a first flight FOR
someone, but I'm not all that interested in being subjected
to the risk of being WITH someone, if I'm not the one at
the controls. Certainly, if something does go wrong,
a person would claim that they'd want the most experience,
and most current person at the controls, but in actual
application, this isn't necessarily what happens. What
actually happens is that the guy with much less experience
wants to fly it, because he built it. Now, I do have
great respect for this, and I personally could not do
it any other way. But I do think that from a risk/safety
perspective this isn't the best situation.
If I'm along in the plane, I want to be seated in the
seat that I am most comfortable to have the proper
reactions and natural feel in, and I want to be 100%
responsible for the safety of the flight and getting the
plane back on the ground regardless of emergency
situation. So while I am willing to do a first flight,
or even do a first flight with someone, I'm not willing
to just be a ride-along for a first flight unless the
other person is similar current and skilled...and honestly,
if they were, they wouldn't be asking me along in the
first place. And as far as having someone ride along
with you, I can tell you first hand that the most
dangerous times I've had probably, from an attention
standpoint, are when you put two pilot friends together
in a cockpit. It's fine if you can strictly follow
solid CRM, but any extra chatter or communication just
decreases safety.
So I think that the additional pilot program
can actually promote safety, but it may even do
the opposite if not used properly, and builders need to
understand what they are asking for when they ask
someone to go along as an additional pilot.
Purely from the standpoint of the builder, sure, he
may indeed be safer having the highly qualified additional
pilot with them, if they follow good CRM, even with him
at the controls. But, that isn't necessarily the
safest situation for that flight.
I'll have a first flight coming up again sometime
in the next year, and I would be the only one in the plane
for that one, with or without the program. I'd strongly
encourage transition training for all people, and my personal
opinion is, if you get adequate transition training, and
do enough to be current, you really can have that dream
of being the one to do your own first flight if you want to.
You just have to put the time in beforehand.
Tim
On 10/15/2015 11:07 AM, Jesse Saint wrote:
> I agree completely. Nice write-up.
>
> I do also like the new 2nd pilot rule, but I NEVER do first flight with
> more than one person. I just don't think it's worth the risk. The
> trouble here is if the owner/builder wants to do the first flight
> himself unless he is a very experienced pilot. I have done now about
> 6-10 first flights, and always alone. If things work correctly and no
> major issues on first flight, then maybe the owner/builder on the second
> flight. Usually it's third flight, though.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> 352-427-0285
> jesse@saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 15, 2015, at 8:06 AM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com
> <mailto:civeng123@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Here are a few lessons I learned during my first flight day.
>>
>> I didn't invite any friends or family to witness the first flight. It
>> was a very private affair, because I didn't want any undue pressure to
>> fly when I should scrub. The downside to this was that I don't have
>> any kick ass videos showing the plane taking off for the first time,
>> but I also wasn't afraid to cancel the flight. This was a really hard
>> decision for me to make. After spending 4 years working on this
>> project, I wanted to share the experience with as many people as I
>> could especially everyone that had helped me along the way. But, in
>> the end, I believe that I made the right decision for me.
>>
>> It was incredibly easy to get a clogged fuel injector. During the very
>> first takeoff, the EGT and CHT of cylinder #3 were higher than any of
>> the others. This was due to a partially blocked fuel injector. I was
>> shocked at how small the debris was when we opened it up. It was
>> maybe the half the size of a grain of sand. I had mostly homemade
>> hoses FWF that I thought I had cleaned and flushed thoroughly.
>> Apparently, this little spec of trash was hiding somewhere between my
>> fuel filter, in the tunnel, and the injection port on cylinder #3.
>>
>> During that very first take off, I had no clue as to why the EGT and
>> CHT for one cylinder was hotter than the others, but Nick did. This
>> leads me to lesson number three.
>>
>> As a first time builder it was incredibly helpful to have an extremely
>> experienced RV builder/pilot there with me the whole day. He knew
>> what was normal and what was abnormal. He instantly suspected a
>> partially clogged injection port and we had the situation remedied in
>> a flash. Without him, the day would have been much more stressful and
>> probably would not have ended with our 2 subsequent successful flights.
>>
>> The new 2nd pilot rule maybe one of the smartest things the FAA has
>> done in quite some time.
>>
>> Shannon Hicks
>> N898SE
>> Phase 1
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Rich Hansen <karolamy@roadrunner.com
>> <mailto:karolamy@roadrunner.com>> wrote:
>>
>> <karolamy@roadrunner.com <mailto:karolamy@roadrunner.com>>
>>
>> Great job Shannon! Can feel your excitement, a great motivator
>> for those of us shortly behind you. Keep us posted on how
>> everything goes and have some fun!
>>
>> --------
>> Rich Hansen
>> RV-6A
>> RV-10
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447967#447967
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Copperstate RV10 Nest 2015 |
I am in the early throws for planning the ninth (and last) RV-10 Nest at Copperstate
(AZ) 2015. Hopefully the tenth and last will be next year.
My land based RV will be there for the duration and serve as a crashpad for nesters
with lots of shade, seating, cold drinks, etc. Tent campers are welcome to
use my facilities as needed.
Carne Asada lunch will again be noonish on Saturday. The last couple of years we
have had several vendors join us for lunch and that has been popular. Reps from
Van's, Dynon, Advanced, Approach Stack and others have joined in and great
conversations have ensued.
The hardest part of the whole thing for me is provision planning. Those planning
on coming for lunch please let me know, and yes, friends and family who are
not RV-10ers are welcome.
Any other ideas or suggestions are welcome.
Myron
602 421-2868
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Myron Nelson
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Flew May 10 2014
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| Subject: | Re: Copperstate RV10 Nest 2015 |
Myron, what date do you have in mind?
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: Copperstate RV10 Nest 2015 |
The show is Oct 22-24. If Myron follows previous protocol the lunch
would be Sat. Oct 24.
On 10/15/2015 6:48 PM, Bob Turner wrote:
>
> Myron, what date do you have in mind?
>
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> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447993#447993
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| Subject: | Cheapest insurance policy yet --SkySmith |
Open Pilot:: *P; 750 TT; 25 MM*; Training Requirements: *N/A*;
Insurance Company: *Aerospace Ins Mgrs*from *10/17/2015* to *10/17/2016*;
Aircraft use: *P&B* (P&B is non-commercial); Aerobatic Use: *None*.
Coverages: *G&F*, *Full Coverage, Ground & Flight;* Deductibles: *$0* NIM &
*$0* IM/
Physical Damage: *$165,000* = $1,317.00
Liability per Occ: *$1,000,000* = $242.00
Liab Limited to *$100,000*/pass.
Medical *$5,000*/pass. = $25.00
Endorsements: = $0.00
Total Annual Premium = *$1,584.00*
Which we split two ways...not bad--I think my car is more!
Our first policy in 2007 was more than twice as much.
--Dave
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